Kordell Retires as a Steeler

[phillyesq]

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I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

[squidkid]

could you image how effective korkie would have been if he just would have realized a qb he was not and mastered the 'slash role'.
he actually could have brought a dimension to the game that hadnt been seen before and would have been near impossible to defend.
only if.

[Chadman]

Always liked Kordell & thought he was given some rough treatment in his time here. Biggest critisism of Kordell was that he was, perhaps, just a little too sensitive to the critics & didn't always seem to overcome the things said about him. Chadman will say that while his time as our starting QB was at times frustrating, he was certainly an exciting player & always made you think that maybe...just maybe...he'd do something a bit special.

[Notleadpoisoned]

We could have had Pitt's Curtis Martin with that pick. Oh well.

[steelblood]

could you image how effective korkie would have been if he just would have realized a qb he was not and mastered the 'slash role'.
he actually could have brought a dimension to the game that hadnt been seen before and would have been near impossible to defend.
only if.

Kordell could have been an excellent WR and KR if he would have chosen that route. As a RB or a QB, average pro at best.

[bostonsteeler]

I always did like Korkie. I remember a few games where he was superman. The game against the ravens in 2001 was one. The TD to Bobby Shaw from inside the 10 was one of the best I've seen by anyone.

For all his bad moments, he had many good ones. Good luck, mister; we wish you the best wherever life takes you.

[Crash]

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I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

Embarrassing would be a good start.

[flippy]

It's a shame we couldn't have kept Chan with him for his career. Too many OCs tried to turn him into something he wasn't rather than taking advantage of his strengths.

Like him or hate him, his years in Pittsburgh were some of the most exciting years in Pittsburgh even though he never won the big one. I remember having so much anticipation every week Kordell laced em up wondering what he was going to do that would be spectacular.

Even though he frustrated the bejeezus out of me, he'll always be a legend of the game.

Without Slash, there probably wouldn't be a Cam Newton or RGIII. He's changed the game and I think RGIII is the athlete at QB that finally has the accuracy needed for the position to be successful.

Kordell could have been one the greats of all time if he woulda picked WR as his position.

Cowher woulda probably been the greatest coach of all time if Kordell played WR.

[Crash]

Too many OCs tried to turn him into something he wasn't rather than taking advantage of his strengths.

You're right. They put him behind center.

Btw, the one year he had Chan as his OC Korkie led the AFC in picks.

QBs have to throw the ball in this league to win.

He couldn't.

[Crash]

Kordell changed the game? Good God.

[Flasteel]

Always liked Kordell & thought he was given some rough treatment in his time here. Biggest critisism of Kordell was that he was, perhaps, just a little too sensitive to the critics & didn't always seem to overcome the things said about him. Chadman will say that while his time as our starting QB was at times frustrating, he was certainly an exciting player & always made you think that maybe...just maybe...he'd do something a bit special.

I was at that game in Tampa when he cried and I spoke to him briefly in the locker afterwards. The dude was simply dejected. I think he took things too hard as well. I also agree that he was saddled with a couple of bad OC's and never had the type of continuity I think he [in particular] needed. Despite those "flaws" Kordell will always be one of my favorite players.

[Crash]

Saddled? So I guess it was another Kordell who sat in on interviews in 1998 and endorsed Sherman's hiring?

15 years later and nothing has changed: Kordell (nor his minions) has never accepted blame for his failures.

[Chadman]

Geez Crash...nice way of avoiding the truth. Did you read the interview with Kordell? He acknowledged he had struggles. He acknowledged he had tough times. And every post in here that is 'favourable' to Kordell also mentions frustration, and inconsistancy.

Is it FALSE that he had an unsettled first few years in the NFL in regards to changing OC's? Can there be NO blame laid in that direction? Or were Kordell's struggles all on Kordell? If that's the case- obviously Ben's struggles are all on Ben right? Can't blame the coaching, the OL etc.

Fair's fair after all.

[Crash]

Geez Crash...nice way of avoiding the truth. Did you read the interview with Kordell? He acknowledged he had struggles. He acknowledged he had tough times. And every post in here that is 'favourable' to Kordell also mentions frustration, and inconsistancy.

Is it FALSE that he had an unsettled first few years in the NFL in regards to changing OC's? Can there be NO blame laid in that direction? Or were Kordell's struggles all on Kordell? If that's the case- obviously Ben's struggles are all on Ben right? Can't blame the coaching, the OL etc.

Fair's fair after all.

Um, Ben has won 2 rings with 2 different head coaches and 2 different OCs. So Ben went through the same issues Kordell did, and still won.

Kordell admitted struggles but what he didn't do, what he has NEVER done, is accept responsibility for them.

Most of the offense's struggles last season were because we ran the ball on 58% on first down, and 65% on first down in the red zone.

What did Ben do? Not hand off properly? And the sad part? Haley's offense if you are to believe Ben, believe Pouncey, Colon, etc is that they are going to run MORE.

[Chadman]

Um, Ben has won 2 rings with 2 different head coaches and 2 different OCs. So Ben went through the same issues Kordell did, and still won.

Kordell admitted struggles but what he didn't do, what he has NEVER done, is accept responsibility for them.

Most of the offense's struggles last season were because we ran the ball on 58% on first down, and 65% on first down in the red zone.

What did Ben do? Not hand off properly? And the sad part? Haley's offense if you are to believe Ben, believe Pouncey, Colon, etc is that they are going to run MORE.

Fair dinkum Crash- so Kordell accepts he struggled, but doesn't 'accept responsibility' that he struggled?

You know- in everything he said, Chadman must have missed the bit where he said "Coach Cowher & the Steelers never helped me succeed. It's not my fault I had struggles".

Using your theory that the offences problem last season was the running game & not Ben, the players 'responsible' for the failures should 'accept responsibility'- are we to expect Rashard Mendenhall's public announcement that the Steelers could run effectively because he sucked?