5 Steelers Ready To Breakout In 2012, Part I: Offense

[phillyesq]

and I believe that is what Art said ... "we need to be able to run the ball more effectively". Not that we need to commit more to the run game. We just need to keep Ben out of the 3rd and 8's and get him into more of the 3rd and 3's. That way we can utilize ALL of his talent.

Hmm, no response from somebody who was so worried about inaccuracies earlier in the thread.

[Crash]

21st out of 32 teams in scoring points, not the standard Mike Tomlin is looking for.

And with new kickoff rules pretty much negating returns and a defense that only forces 15 turnovers all year? The chances you get to score will be limited because you go 75-80 yards every time you score points.

Gotta have some cheap possessions, not go the length of the field all day.

[Crash]

I have no idea. But I do know that they both could run if teams dropped into a cover two with the safeties deep or against a nickel package.

I'm not saying that the Steelers shouldn't use Ben, the WRs and Miller. What I'm saying is that a balanced attack will benefit Ben and the WRs.

And 58% runs on first down isn't balanced, is it?

That's where the problem lied. But Arians only did what he was told.

2 weeks ago Colon said he expects to run more.

Pouncey said today that he expects to run more, ESPECIALLY in the red zone.

If you guys don't see where this is headed? That's all on you.

[hawaiiansteel]

this quote from Maurkice Pouncey at today's OTAs:

"Pouncey says he is a big fan of the new offensive playbook according to Mike Prisuta and added that the new offense is going to be a lot different, and that it will have a lot more running plays. Prisuta also quoted Pouncey as saying, "We might run it a lot more in the red zone."

[Crash]

And they ran the ball on 65% of 1st downs in the red zone last season. So WTF? Are they gonna run every f'n play?

[fordfixer]

Back to 1975

[Crash]

Wouldn't shock me.

[Slapstick]

And they ran the ball on 65% of 1st downs in the red zone last season. So WTF? Are they gonna run every f'n play?

It does explain why Arians was given the boot...

AR II's mandate was, "run the ball more effectively when we need to."

Well, if you are running the ball on 65% of 1st downs in the red zone, but you are only 21st in scoring, that's not effective....

Blame bad execution, bad play calling, bad play design, whatever...the bottom line is that it didn't happen...

Don't confuse "running the ball more" with "running the ball more effectively." The last part is the most important.

Arians did and that's why he's in Indy...

[RuthlessBurgher]

Just because Haley's playbook has more running plays doesn't necessarily mean that we are going to be running the ball a ton. I think Arians' playbook had only 2 running plays...RUTFM and Kemo pulling to the right with the RB running into Kemo. That's about it. Haley likely has more running plays that will actually keep the defense guessing as opposed to attempting the same runs again and again and again.

[Crash]

It does explain why Arians was given the boot...

AR II's mandate was, "run the ball more effectively when we need to."

Well, if you are running the ball on 65% of 1st downs in the red zone, but you are only 21st in scoring, that's not effective....

Blame bad execution, bad play calling, bad play design, whatever...the bottom line is that it didn't happen...

Don't confuse "running the ball more" with "running the ball more effectively." The last part is the most important.

Arians did and that's why he's in Indy...

Arians is in Indy because they won't dare fire Dick LeBeau. Now you watch, if the same 4th quarter defense happens in 2012 now that a local Yinzer is running the offense all of the sudden LeBeau will finally get some heat.

The offense had their highest YPC in TEN YEARS, I'd say that meets the criteria that II wanted, no?

[Slapstick]

Arians is in Indy because they won't dare fire Dick LeBeau. Now you watch, if the same 4th quarter defense happens in 2012 now that a local Yinzer is running the offense all of the sudden LeBeau will finally get some heat.

The offense had their highest YPC in TEN YEARS, I'd say that meets the criteria that II wanted, no?

No. 21st in scoring + 65% runs on 1st down in end zone = not effective.

[Crash]

No. 21st in scoring + 65% runs on 1st down in end zone = not effective.

And like I said, 15 forced turnovers all year, combined with longer fields because of kickoff rules? That's going to chew time because you don't get any cheap possessions to score points.

When you are going 75-80 yards every drive, and are 30th (I think) in starting field position? Their "rank" in scoring really isn't all that surprising.

As they say for the beloved defense: The other team gets paid too.

[Slapstick]

And like I said, 15 forced turnovers all year, combined with longer fields because of kickoff rules? That's going to chew time because you don't get any cheap possessions to score points.

When you are going 75-80 yards every drive, and are 30th (I think) in starting field position? Their "rank" in scoring really isn't all that surprising.

As they say for the beloved defense: The other team gets paid too.

The defense and Arians are two separate issues. Arians isn't evaluated upon what the defense does.

21st in scoring + 65% runs in the red zone = not effective.

[feltdizz]

The defense and Arians are two separate issues. Arians isn't evaluated upon what the defense does.

21st in scoring + 65% runs in the red zone = not effective.

in 2009 Arians was blamed for every defensive collapse.

[Crash]

in 2009 Arians was blamed for every defensive collapse.

Yep. And that's why we are where we are.

Two 1000 yard WRs, 1200 yard rusher, Ben threw 26 TD passes in 15 games, and the offense was in the top 10.

But because nobody dare bash Dick LeBeau's precious 4th quarter defense, the offense got ripped for not making the playoffs.