5 Steelers Ready To Breakout In 2012, Part I: Offense

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  • ikestops85
    Hall of Famer
    • Jun 2008
    • 3724

    #16
    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    right on then because I think all of us would like to see the Steelers be able to run the ball more effectively.
    and I believe that is what Art said ... "we need to be able to run the ball more effectively". Not that we need to commit more to the run game. We just need to keep Ben out of the 3rd and 8's and get him into more of the 3rd and 3's. That way we can utilize ALL of his talent.
    As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

    but Go Steelers!!!

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    • phillyesq
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 7568

      #17
      Originally posted by Crash
      Actually I wish they were more worried about winning games instead of obsessing over protecting the pristine image of this defense and trying to re-create 1975 football.
      How qre being able to run effectively and winning football games mutually exclusive? Look at the final four teams last year -- the 49ers had a strong running game, as did the Ravens. The pats* were able to run effectively, thus preventing teams from loading up too much to stop the pass. The Giants could also create enough of a threat with the run game.

      The offense doesn't need to be three yards and a cloud of dust, but an effective ground game that forces defenses to play straight up will only help the passing game.

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      • Crash
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        • Apr 2009
        • 5008

        #18
        You guys watch, the MINUTE Haley calls for three straight red zone pass plays.

        BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        Yinzers know three things: Blame Ben, save the defense, run the ball because Franco did 40 years ago.

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        • hawaiiansteel
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          • May 2008
          • 35651

          #19
          Originally posted by Crash
          Actually I wish they were more worried about winning games instead of obsessing over protecting the pristine image of this defense and trying to re-create 1975 football.

          you don't believe that by running the ball more effectively (i.e. near the goal line or in short yardage situations) that might enable us to win more games?)

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          • Crash
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            • Apr 2009
            • 5008

            #20
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            you don't believe that by running the ball more effectively (i.e. near the goal line or in short yardage situations) that might enable us to win more games?)
            I would rather use my skill players and use the $100 million QB I am paying to win games.

            If they would rather obsess over the run and re-create 1975? Send Ben on his way, and load up on RBs and defense.

            The defense will NEVER be blamed for their faults. It will always be the offense who gets torched.

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            • Crash
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              • Apr 2009
              • 5008

              #21
              Originally posted by phillyesq
              How qre being able to run effectively and winning football games mutually exclusive? Look at the final four teams last year -- the 49ers had a strong running game, as did the Ravens. The pats* were able to run effectively, thus preventing teams from loading up too much to stop the pass. The Giants could also create enough of a threat with the run game.

              The offense doesn't need to be three yards and a cloud of dust, but an effective ground game that forces defenses to play straight up will only help the passing game.
              Where were the Giants and Pats ranked in rushing last season?

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              • Eddie Spaghetti
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 4123

                #22
                I think it's pretty clear that Crash would rather see ben play well than the steelers win the football game.

                I have never seen a bigger mancrush in all my years on the interweb.

                just downright spooky.

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                • Crash
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                  I think it's pretty clear that Crash would rather see ben play well than the steelers win the football game.
                  I would rather this organization realize that it's 2012 and not 1975.

                  You win by throwing the football and you win with speed. You don't win with dinosaur football.

                  What were the Steelers ranked in rushing in 2008?

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                  • Eddie Spaghetti
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4123

                    #24
                    I'm pretty confident the rooneys know what year it is. I have never heard the term "dinosaur football" come from anyone associated with the team. just you.

                    why is running the ball more effectively a bad thing?

                    wouldn't that give the steelers a better chance to win football games?

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                    • Crash
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #25
                      why is running the ball more effectively a bad thing?


                      In 2011 they had their highest YPC, in TEN YEARS.

                      And Arians still got canned.

                      The running game isn't why Tim %^&*(O) Tebow threw for 316 freaking yards.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27564

                        #26
                        If we throw 3 straight times in the red zone and score who will boo? All fans want is 6 instead of 3 and we don't care how the O gets it.


                        Funny thing Crash is your reference to 2008... the O was horrible until the playoffs.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27564

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Crash
                          In 2011 they had their highest YPC, in TEN YEARS.

                          And Arians still got canned.

                          The running game isn't why Tim %^&*(O) Tebow threw for 316 freaking yards.[/COLOR]
                          Scoring offense sucked...
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35651

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Scoring offense sucked...

                            21st out of 32 teams in scoring points, not the standard Mike Tomlin is looking for.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
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                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              21st out of 32 teams in scoring points, not the standard Mike Tomlin is looking for.
                              Yup...scoring TD's is what counts. Don't care if we run the ball 14 times in a row or pass the ball 14 times in a row. As long as our sucktastic kicker is lining up for a makeable PAT instead of a questionable FG, I'll be happy.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • phillyesq
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 7568

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Crash
                                Where were the Giants and Pats ranked in rushing last season?
                                I have no idea. But I do know that they both could run if teams dropped into a cover two with the safeties deep or against a nickel package.

                                I'm not saying that the Steelers shouldn't use Ben, the WRs and Miller. What I'm saying is that a balanced attack will benefit Ben and the WRs.

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