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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Roethlisberger-Haley Relationship To Be Productive

    Tomlin Expects Roethlisberger-Haley Relationship To Be Productive
    March 27, 2012 8:29 PM

    (Credit: KDKA)
    [url]http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/03/27/tomlin-expects-roethlisberger-haley-relationship-to-be-productive/[/url]

    PALM BEACH, Fla. (KDKA) — Ben Roethlisberger was a Bruce Arians backer and lobbied hard to keep him in place as the offensive coordinator.

    When that didn’t happen, it took a while for Roethlisberger and Haley to connect – they waited a week and a half before they met and now that working relationship is under way.

    There’s a contrast in style between Arians and Haley who is known to be tough on his players, especially quarterbacks.

    “We all have swings in emotion. We all use different coaching techniques,” Tomlin said. “I’d agree that he does have a reputation in that regard, but I’m not going to prejudge him. Like any good coach, I’m sure he’s prepared to be whatever the group needs him to be.”

    Tomlin says he doesn’t expect smooth sailing in the quarterback-offensive coordinator relationship, but he believes it will be a productive one as time goes on.
    He was impressed with Haley – very impressed during the interview process.

    “The way he embraces the standard that is the Pittsburgh Steelers – I think that’s something that you can’t quantify, something – that’s an intangible that you can’t quantify that I think is going to help us,” Tomlin said.

    “I think that when somebody legitimately understands and embraces what comes with being part of our organization, I think it’s a leg up,” he added. “I saw similar things in Carnell Lake a year ago and I’m always going to be attracted to that because this is a unique place. I want men that embrace the legacy.”

    Roethlisberger’s legacy so far has been his ability to keep plays alive at times to his own detriment. Art Rooney II said Ben’s style needs to be tweaked. Tomlin doesn’t necessarily agree.

    “I don’t think we’re at that point. I think that, you know, that point’s maybe somewhere in the future – you acknowledge that, you know. He’s probably as old a guy as we got on the offense, so it’s something to be said for that, but I don’t think we’re at the point where we think he’s diminishing physically to the point where he has to alter his game from that perspective.”

    “He runs around for 12 seconds and throws a 70-yard touchdown, I like it,” he continued. “When he gets hit and injured, you don’t like it, so I’ll sincerely say it depends on the outcome of the play. .. He’s got a unique skill set and it benefits us and benefits him. Let’s just continue to focus on utilizing it for good.”

    Tomlin says the Steelers do plan on bringing in another quarterback whether through free agency or the NFL draft.

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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35648

    #2
    I sure hope so...

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    • Oviedo
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      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Tomlin is right on several accounts. Don't prejudge! It won't be all smooth sailing! It will be productive!

      Ben will benefit from someone pushing him to evolve out of his comfort zone. It may take a while for him to see that, but I really believe this will be a good match the more I have thought about it. With ben getting older he has to do thing differently. I don't think Arians would ever force him to to that. I do think Haley will call plays that will "protect" Ben more too versus letting Ben just be a gunslinger.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #4
        Unless Ben was merely paying lip service to Kurt Warner about admiring him after the Super Bowl, he should take Warner's opinion regarding Haley into account...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • Djfan
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          • May 2008
          • 5184

          #5
          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Tomlin is right on several accounts. Don't prejudge! It won't be all smooth sailing! It will be productive!

          Ben will benefit from someone pushing him to evolve out of his comfort zone. It may take a while for him to see that, but I really believe this will be a good match the more I have thought about it. With ben getting older he has to do thing differently. I don't think Arians would ever force him to to that. I do think Haley will call plays that will "protect" Ben more too versus letting Ben just be a gunslinger.
          Exactly my thoughts.
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          • SteelBucks
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            • Aug 2008
            • 8075

            #6
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Tomlin is right on several accounts. Don't prejudge! It won't be all smooth sailing! It will be productive!

            Ben will benefit from someone pushing him to evolve out of his comfort zone. It may take a while for him to see that, but I really believe this will be a good match the more I have thought about it. With ben getting older he has to do thing differently. I don't think Arians would ever force him to to that. I do think Haley will call plays that will "protect" Ben more too versus letting Ben just be a gunslinger.
            I agree. Noll and Bradshaw proved that you don't have to be buddy-buddy to be effective.

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            • Djfan
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              • May 2008
              • 5184

              #7
              Originally posted by SteelBucks
              I agree. Noll and Bradshaw proved that you don't have to be buddy-buddy to be effective.
              There are probably examples to demonstrate how buddy-buddy QBs and OCs are a bad thing (he says while begging the question!).
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              • Sugar
                Hall of Famer
                • Oct 2008
                • 3700

                #8
                For all we know, Haley and Ben could be having sleepovers by the time the season starts. It really doesn't matter, both men are pro's and will do the right thing. IDK that Haley will actually push Ben any more than Arians did. We only see a part of the equation and it's all good if they are putting a great product on the field.

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                • Djfan
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                  • May 2008
                  • 5184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sugar
                  and it's all good if they are putting a great product on the field.
                  And use that great team wisely.
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                  • Crash
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                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5008

                    #10
                    Scrapping the entire offense for a new playbook is dumb at this point.

                    I guess they DO want to run the ball 50 times a game.

                    Because changing things completely now makes no sense at all.

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                    • Crash
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #11
                      Btw, for the last 6 years of his career John Elway had his hand picked pals "running" their offense after spending the first 10 years of his career in Dan Reeves' dinosaur offense.

                      Now pull up his numbers from 1993-1998 once Reeves left.

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                      • D Rock
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2797

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Crash
                        Scrapping the entire offense for a new playbook is dumb at this point.

                        I guess they DO want to run the ball 50 times a game.

                        Because changing things completely now makes no sense at all.

                        Because BA's playbook worked wonders, right?

                        Haley has said there will be a lot of carry over in terminology but that the playbook is a clean slate. Maybe they will keep what worked and toss what didn't. If these guys can't learn new plays using their old terminology then they don't deserve to be in the NFL.

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                        • Oviedo
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                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Originally posted by D Rock
                          Because BA's playbook worked wonders, right?

                          Haley has said there will be a lot of carry over in terminology but that the playbook is a clean slate. Maybe they will keep what worked and toss what didn't. If these guys can't learn new plays using their old terminology then they don't deserve to be in the NFL.
                          What a novel concept: keep what works and delete what doesn't.

                          Can't see what is wrong with a good critical review of the playbook and possibly modifying it to match the talents and abilities of the players we have versus forcing a template. Perhaps haley should take the guy on the other side of the ball out to dinner and explain the concept
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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #14
                            Really, there should not be any radical changes...

                            This offense is still, for the most part, the offense that Ben has been running since 2004 when Whisenhunt was OC...

                            Whisenhunt's and Haley's offensive systems are pretty close (see Arizona), so I would not be surprised if much of the terminology carried over...

                            Haley will base the offense upon what the offense does well...not just what Roethlisberger likes to do, which may not always be the same thing....
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              #15
                              Given that we were #21 in the league in scoring last year does anyone really believe we have it all figured out with regards to our plays and how we have our scheme set up?

                              A new playbook does not mean you are burning the old one, but an improvement is without a doubt called for based on the results we see in games. Plus it is never a bad thing to challenge players and get them out of their comfirt zone. The players knowing there are changes will force them to pay more attention to details to learn new terminology, variations, etc. It may also put a little more pressure on them because new guys are now starting from the same place they are.
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