Tomlin not Rooney fired Bruce!

[Slapstick]

why is it when tomlin does his pressers and says 'nothing', we are told that tomlin is a master are fooling the media by not giving them anything informative or substantial, but when he makes the statement that he is the only one running this team in terms of who gets fired and who gets hired, we are suppose to believethat he is now telling the truth?

I can not disagree more strongly...

When Tomlin does a presser, especially post-game, he states things bluntly and succinctly...that is vastly different from saying "nothing"...

If the Steelers lose and he says something like:

"We didn't make the significant plays needed to win the game. We accept responsibility for that. We will review the tape, make corrections and look ahead to next week."

Rather than being considered honest, which he was, he is accused of saying "nothing"...I don't get it...

[Sugar]

I can not disagree more strongly...

When Tomlin does a presser, especially post-game, he states things bluntly and succinctly...that is vastly different from saying "nothing"...

If the Steelers lose and he says something like:

"We didn't make the significant plays needed to win the game. We accept responsibility for that. We will review the tape, make corrections and look ahead to next week."

Rather than being considered honest, which he was, he is accused of saying "nothing"...I don't get it...

I like that Tomlin is professional and says what needs to be said and seldom more than that.

[Crash]

Did we win anything in 2007? No, we lost to Jacksonville in the wildcard round.

We played "Stiller football" in 2005 and 2008...that is championship football.

How we rank in rushing offense or passing defense or whatever is inconsequential.

Did our season end with a Rooney holding a Lombardi trophy? That's what matters.

MY opinion of Steeler Football is the same as yours: Winning.

Unfortunately, too many idiots think that Steeler Football means you have to run the ball all day.

[Oviedo]

I can not disagree more strongly...

When Tomlin does a presser, especially post-game, he states things bluntly and succinctly...that is vastly different from saying "nothing"...

If the Steelers lose and he says something like:

"We didn't make the significant plays needed to win the game. We accept responsibility for that. We will review the tape, make corrections and look ahead to next week."

Rather than being considered honest, which he was, he is accused of saying "nothing"...I don't get it...

I totally agree. The media is a distraction from what Tomlin's job is. Feeding them information is not important to building a winning football. It is an annoyance and necessary evil. Why should Tomlin make it entertaining or provide soundbites for the media? So they can write articles for us to post here and discuss?

If I were a coach talking to the media would be like going to get a root canal. Just get it over with.

[Oviedo]

MY opinion of Steeler Football is the same as yours: Winning.

Unfortunately, too many idiots think that Steeler Football means you have to run the ball all day.

That's because too many fans think we still have Jerome Bettis and the rules are the same as the 1970s. Too many think their high school "glory days" represent what football is. Running teams in 2012 are losing teams. You can't win a championship in 2012 by running the ball because you can't keep up scoring wise with teams who have fully embraced a wide open passing offense.

[Slapstick]

Running the ball all day is not the same as running the ball effectively...

You can have a wide open passing offense, but if you can't convert a 3rd and short, your wide open passing offense goes to the sideline...

[ikestops85]

Running the ball all day is not the same as running the ball effectively...

You can have a wide open passing offense, but if you can't convert a 3rd and short, your wide open passing offense goes to the sideline...

Bingo!

It also means being able to push the ball into the endzone when we get inside the 5 yard line.
It also means giving the defense a breather when they come off the field after chasing QBs and Receivers who they can't hit anymore.
It also means being able to control the ball when we have a lead late in the game.

[Crash]

It also means being able to control the ball when we have a lead late in the game.

That hasn't been the issue. The issue this team has on defense is giving up too many scores, RIGHT AFTER the Steelers score themselves.

But rather than bash the precious defense, the offense somehow gets blamed.

You can't protect the defense all game. At some point they DO have to get back on the field and do their job.

[ikestops85]

[/COLOR]That hasn't been the issue. The issue this team has on defense is giving up too many scores, RIGHT AFTER the Steelers score themselves.

But rather than bash the precious defense, the offense somehow gets blamed.

You can't protect the defense all game. At some point they DO have to get back on the field and do their job.

Well then please list all of the other defenses that have been better than our 'precious defense' over the last 5 years. It's kinda hard to blame a unit that DOES do it's job on a regular basis and is consistently ranked in the top 5.

[Crash]

Their ranking means nothing to me. That's the problem fans have. Fantasy football logic has destroyed situational football.

This all started after 2009. That year the defense gave up scores in the 4th quarter following Steelers scores (and went 14 games without a CB having a pick) and somehow Bruce Arians got blamed for it.

And the offense has been erratic ever since.

[Oviedo]

[/COLOR]That hasn't been the issue. The issue this team has on defense is giving up too many scores, RIGHT AFTER the Steelers score themselves.

But rather than bash the precious defense, the offense somehow gets blamed.

You can't protect the defense all game. At some point they DO have to get back on the field and do their job.

I have been saying the same thing for a couple of years now but there seems to be a ridiculous standard set for the offense while the defense gets a pass no matter how great the failure.

The problem with our defense is that it seems to be feast or famine. If we can't get to the QB we aren't successful. If we can we do well. That is natural but our problem is that we don't do it against good teams and we pad our stats against lesser teams. Many will vehemently disagree, but IMO the problem is that we are predictable on defense and good teams can handle that. Be honest, if you watch all the game can't you guess with a 80%+ accuracy exactly when Woodley and Harrison are going to rush? You don't think the other teams can too?

We use inside blitzes and blitzes from the DBs way to infrequently,and having our DL control the line of scrimmage just plays into the hands of good teams that pass more and more on 1st and 2nd down. But that's the offenses fault too.

[grotonsteel]

Bingo!

It also means being able to push the ball into the endzone when we get inside the 5 yard line.
It also means giving the defense a breather when they come off the field after chasing QBs and Receivers who they can't hit anymore.
It also means being able to control the ball when we have a lead late in the game.

Steelers Offense never had issue with ball control. Never. Steelers Offense suffered because stupid BA went with Run-Run-Pass offense once Steelers got a lead. I believe the reason BA did was to give Defense breather. Defense complained in 2009 about Offense scoring quick and they still complain why Offense don't run the ball more.

Steelers Offense issue was red zone offense and the reason it failed was because you got an OC who insisted on running the ball in red zone when your RB is going for 3.8 ypc and your O-line sucks. Big Fail.

Your strength is your QB. Keep the ball in his hands. Haley should do well if he follows this.

Air it out more and have 3-4 WR sets majority of the game. If Steelers Offense become quick strike offense so be it.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Their ranking means nothing to me. That's the problem fans have. Fantasy football logic has destroyed situational football.

What does defensive ranking (yards a team gives up relative to other teams) have to do with fantasy football? I've never heard of a yards-against ranking having anything to do whatsoever with fantasy football. Nice try though...when someone disagrees with you, it's easier to just blame a "fantasy football mentality" whether or not the discussion at hand has anything to do with fantasy football stats at all.

[Crash]

My favorite excuse for the defense is when a top QB shreds them it's "[Enter QBs name here] does that to everybody". Or "The other guys are paid too".

I guess the defenses the Steelers' offense's face are playing for free.

[ikestops85]

Their ranking means nothing to me. That's the problem fans have. Fantasy football logic has destroyed situational football.

This all started after 2009. That year the defense gave up scores in the 4th quarter following Steelers scores (and went 14 games without a CB having a pick) and somehow Bruce Arians got blamed for it.

And the offense has been erratic ever since.

Throw rankings out ... where is your list of teams that have had a better defense than the Steelers have put on the field over the last 5 years? If our defense is so bad you should be able to whip out a list of at least 10 teams that have done better.