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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    Steelers could opt for nose tackle

    Steelers could opt for nose tackle

    By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Sunday, February 26, 2012


    INDIANAPOLIS -- There would appear to be less and less room in the pass-happy NFL for space-consuming, run-stuffers who don't play on throwing downs.

    Not that Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert buys that nose tackles are creeping toward Jurassic status just because 10 players threw for more than 4,000 yards last season.

    "You can't get to third down if you don't stop them on first and second down," Colbert said.

    Translation: Nose tackle is still one of the team's most important positions.

    The Steelers figure to make finding an eventual successor to Casey Hampton one of their priorities as they piece together their draft board. And two of the more highly regarded defensive players offered glimpses Saturday as to why tackle is one of the deeper positions in the draft.

    "I think hands down I'm the best defensive tackle in the draft," Penn State's Devon Still said. Dontari Poe, a 6-foot-4, 346-pounder from Memphis, used the words "weight-room" and "love" in the same sentence.

    The Steelers may be more interested in Poe because he has the size of a prototypical nose tackle, and he played the position in college.

    "Most people kind of see me as a 3-4 nose tackle, which is cool with me," said Poe, who had eight tackles for losses last season. "I think I can rush the passer a lot more than people think, but I am used to playing nose tackle."

    Poe said few play the position better than Hampton, which is why he has long followed the five-time Pro Bowler.

    "Once he gets his hands on you, he controls you," Poe said." That's probably what I admire most about him."

    Poe's strength -- he is a self-described weightlifting devout -- could allow him to control opposing linemen in the NFL, though he said he needs to become a more consistent player.

    The question the Steelers may have about Still is how he would fit with them.

    The 6-foot-5 Still weighed in at 303 pounds here at the NFL Scouting Combine, and he may be better suited to play tackle in a 4-3 defense.

    Still said he could play nose tackle in a 3-4 defense, and what isn't in question are the credentials he put together during his final season at Penn State.

    Buoyed by success he had against Florida center Mike Pouncey in the Outback Bowl at the end of his junior season, Still dominated on a unit that carried Penn State. He recorded 17 tackles for a loss and became the latest standout developed by defensive line coach Larry Johnson.

    Still overcame two serious injuries -- one a torn ACL -- early in his career. That, he said, is telling of his desire to excel.

    "I don't strive to be mediocre," said Still, the 2011 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.

    Still once headed draft expert Mike Mayock's rankings for defensive tackles.

    Underclassmen, like Poe, pushed him to No. 4 when they entered the draft -- and they made the position flush with top-end talent.

    Mayock said he will give first-round grades to as many as seven defensive tackles in his final evaluation of draft-eligible players.

    That doesn't necessarily mean there is a lot of quality when it comes prototypical nose tackles.

    Colbert said the pool of nose tackles is "not as deep as some other positions, but there's enough. Chances are, you aren't going to get them if you don't take them high."

    Colbert drafted Hampton in the first round of the 2001 draft, and Hampton has been a vital part of a defense that has helped the Steelers win two Super Bowls and play in another since then.

    At 34, though, Hampton is nearing the end of his career. He is in the final year of his contract and coming off a third torn ACL dating to college. The question doesn't appear to be if the Steelers will take a nose tackle in this year's draft but when.

    "Can you take a guy that's not a three-down player high? Absolutely," Colbert said. "But they've got to be special (since) nose tackle is a special part of our defense."

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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    #2
    Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

    The Steel Mill

    News and updates about the Pittsburgh Steelers
    Feb 25, 2012

    3 questions with Memphis DT Dontari Poe



    INDIANAPOLIS — Dontari Poe, a potential target for the Steelers in the first round of the draft, talked about Casey Hampton, his versatility and his devotion to the weight room today during his media interview at the NFL Combine.

    Poe, a defensive tackle from Memphis, was measured at 6-4, and he weighed in at 346 pounds. He didn’t look like someone that is pushing 350 pounds, and the biggest question the Steelers may have about Poe is whether they will get a crack at him.
    The Steelers don’t pick until No. 24 in the first round of the draft.

    Here are three questions with Poe:

    Q: Are you more comfortable in a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense?
    A: I’m used to both, I played both in college. Either or would be good for me. I’m comfortable playing either so it’s really not a big deal. Most people kind of see me as a 3-4 nose tackle, which is cool with me because I like that position as well. I like to think that I am versatile. I can play multiple positions.

    Q: You seem to know your way around a weight room. Can you talk about that?
    A: I love the weight room. It’s something that I got into high school because people always used to say college players are way bigger, faster, stronger and when you get to college they say the NFL is way bigger, stronger. I never let up. I’m self motivated to do it.

    Q: You said you have long followed Casey Hampton. What do you like about him?
    A: He’s one of the more aggressive defensive tackles that this league has seen. His hand strength, once he gets his hands on you he controls you. That’s probably what I admire most about him.

    – Scott Brown

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #3
      Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

      Last year, Phil Taylor came off the board at #21 overall to Cleveland. Dontari Poe is bigger, stronger, and more athletic than Taylor, and Poe does not have Taylor's history of red flags (kicked out of Penn State) either.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • ramblinjim
        Pro Bowler
        • Jun 2008
        • 1278

        #4
        Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

        We'd have three first rounders on our d-line for years to come, well at least hopefully. I'd like to see the Steelers take the biggest, toughest, most physical presence they can get their hands on in the first round. If it's Poe, great. Glenn? Fantastic, if they trade up and try to get DeCastro, that'd be awesome too.
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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

          Originally posted by ramblinjim
          We'd have three first rounders on our d-line for years to come, well at least hopefully. I'd like to see the Steelers take the biggest, toughest, most physical presence they can get their hands on in the first round. If it's Poe, great. Glenn? Fantastic, if they trade up and try to get DeCastro, that'd be awesome too.
          Go big. Go ugly. Lather, rinse, repeat.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #6
            Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

            I do not think Dontari Poe is a legitmate 3-4 NT. He is too big to get the needed leverage and if you watch his tape you'll see him consistantly too high. I think he is better suited in 4-3. Plus he is very raw and you will not get much out of him for a while.

            I think I would much rather have a much more natural NT like Brandon Thompson or Alameda Ta'Amu.
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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35649

              #7
              Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

              SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2012

              News, notes from the combine thus far


              Memphis nose tackle Dontari Poe showed off his strength this weekend in the bench press, putting 225 pounds up 44 times, the best at this year's combine.

              Poe is a sculpted 6-4, 346 pounds, though his arms were a bit short at 32 inches.

              @ Alameda Ta'amu of Washington, the other top nose tackle prospect, weighed in at 348 pounds on his 6-3 frame.

              Ta'amu, who is more of a second-round prospect, did 35 reps and had 32-inch arms.

              @ Georgia guard/tackle Cordy Glenn ran the 40 in 5.15 seconds, not bad for a man who is 6-5, 345 pounds.

              He also had the second-longest longest arms of any of the offensive linemen at 35 3/4 inches.

              Despite the long arms, Glenn still pressed 225 pounds 31 times, a very respectible number

              Glenn is viewed as a mid-to-late first-round pick, which puts him in the Steelers' range.

              @ California University of Pennsylvania guard Rishaw Johnson showed off his wheels by clocking in right behind Glenn at 5.24 seconds in the 40.

              Johnson, 6-3, 313 pounds, is a sleeper in this draft who's likely to be selected in round four or five. The former Ole Miss star transferred to Cal last season.

              He showed at the Senior Bowl that he's not really capable of playing center, but his mobility and strength are excellent.

              Johnson did, however, struggle in some of the drills, failing to perform them properly and drawing the wrath of position coaches.

              He's raw, but with his athleticism, you never know.

              @ Winconsin guard Kevin Zeitler and Iowa State's Kelechi Osemele, a pair of late-first, early-second round prospects, clocked in at 5.39 seconds and 5.36 seconds, respectively.

              Zeitler's arm length - 32 3/4 - is a bit short, but he used that to his advantage, doing 32 reps on the bench.

              Osemele had the longest arms of any lineman - he should at 6-6, 333 pounds - at 35 7/8 and also managed 32 bench reps.

              @ We'll see how the linebackers run later this week.

              At this point, it clearly appears the Steelers will target two of those three positions in the first two rounds of the draft.

              posted by Dale Lolley

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              • D Rock
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 2797

                #8
                Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                Glenn and Osemele likely bumped their stock up with those size, arm length, and strength numbers.

                Glenn may climb into the top 15, and Osemele could become a late first rounder now.

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                • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3937

                  #9
                  Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  I do not think Dontari Poe is a legitmate 3-4 NT. He is too big to get the needed leverage and if you watch his tape you'll see him consistantly too high. I think he is better suited in 4-3. Plus he is very raw and you will not get much out of him for a while.

                  I think I would much rather have a much more natural NT like Brandon Thompson or Alameda Ta'Amu.
                  Dub...You may be able to save me some work. Send me the links for Poe's game tape because I can find very little on you tube. Thanks.

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                  • steelz09
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4675

                    #10
                    Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                    Poe just ran a 4.8x 40.

                    Are you freaking kidding me?
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                    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3937

                      #11
                      Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                      Wow...And Poe just ran an unofficial 4.87 forty.

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                      • pfelix73
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3458

                        #12
                        Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                        Yep, his stock may rise so high even he will be picked before #24....
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                        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3937

                          #13
                          Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                          Originally posted by jhansle1
                          Poe just ran a 4.8x 40.

                          Are you freaking kidding me?
                          A 1.7 10 yard split...Somebody must be freaking kidding us!!!!!

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                          • Dee Dub
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4652

                            #14
                            Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                            Poe was very impressive in his workout today..however I stand by what I say. He is better suited in a 4-3 or as a 3-4 DE, not as a 3-4 NT. Mayock, Davis, and Warren Sapp all said the same thing this morning. The comparison's to Ngata are deserved, but like Ngata, Baltimore moved him out at NT to a more natural position.
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                            • steelz09
                              Administrator
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4675

                              #15
                              Re: Steelers could opt for nose tackle

                              Poe is very intriguing. The Steelers need a NT of the future. That is a given and something they've neglected over the past several drafts. I don't know if the combination of Hood + McClendon is the answer at NT.

                              The thing is ... Poe seems to be within our range. We haven't had a chance to get someone like him at NT because we're never in range. If he's there and we pass him up, then what happens next year when Hampton is either cut or retired?

                              The Steelers always have an eye on the future and NT is a HUGE part of that.... if you can get a force at NT, you do it.

                              If Glenn and Poe are available then it gets real tough.
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