Since 2007 Eli > Ben

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Since 2007 Eli > Ben

their FO have spent more assets on weapons therefore have better weapons...better?

who have no one that can match nicks. wallace is the closest but is a different type of receiver yet some wouldnt mind losing him for a pick. what would the weapons look like then

[Shoe]

Re: Since 2007 Eli > Ben

They are different types of QBs.

Both are very good. Both have two rings. Not much more to say. Splitting hairs is not for me as I have a receding hair line.

Exactly.
It CERTAINLY is debateable since '07. Those homers who dismiss it aren't being objective. I'll still say Ben, but Eli was "elite" this year... I know that. And he has two rings in that time.

[Flasteel]

Re: Since 2007 Eli > Ben

They are different types of QBs.

Both are very good. Both have two rings. Not much more to say. Splitting hairs is not for me as I have a receding hair line.

Exactly.
It CERTAINLY is debateable since '07. Those homers who dismiss it aren't being objective. I'll still say Ben, but Eli was "elite" this year... I know that. And he has two rings in that time.

I agree with all of this...with everything imaginable considered, they are both terrific quarterbacks who bring different skill sets to the table. However, I think nearly everyone outside of Giant fans and Ben haters would give the edge to Roethlisberger.
So why then would a Steeler fan, on a Steeler message board, feel there is enough separation the other way to proclaim Eli is better since 2007? Big friggin' deal if that's your opinion. But don't come on this forum and make a statement like that, with only one (incorrect) stat in your back pocket to back it up.

I get the point the OP was trying to make about progression...and Manning obviously had the better 2011 campaign, but he's off-base to make such a sweeping statement.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Since 2007 Eli > Ben

They are different types of QBs.

Both are very good. Both have two rings. Not much more to say. Splitting hairs is not for me as I have a receding hair line.

Exactly.
It CERTAINLY is debateable since '07. Those homers who dismiss it aren't being objective. I'll still say Ben, but Eli was "elite" this year... I know that. And he has two rings in that time.

I agree with all of this...with everything imaginable considered, they are both terrific quarterbacks who bring different skill sets to the table. However, I think nearly everyone outside of Giant fans and Ben haters would give the edge to Roethlisberger.
So why then would a Steeler fan, on a Steeler message board, feel there is enough separation the other way to proclaim Eli is better since 2007? Big friggin' deal if that's your opinion. But don't come on this forum and make a statement like that, with only one (incorrect) stat in your back pocket to back it up.

I get the point the OP was trying to make about progression...and Manning obviously had the better 2011 campaign, but he's off-base to make such a sweeping statement.

yeah, where was this thread when the giants missed the playoffs for 3 straight years

imagine what some would be saying if that happened to the steelers