Would you trade Big Ben?

[SidSmythe]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

I think BEN has 1 more Superbowl ring coming ... not sure if any college QB or Peyton Manning can convince me they have 1 more coming.

[phillyesq]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

If the Steelers FO was absolutely convinced that Andrew Luck will live up to and exceed his billing, then yes, I would consider trading Ben for the #1 overall. As Ruthless mentioned, you could easily get 15 years out of Luck. From the Colts perspective, I can't see why they would do that deal.

Anything less than Luck, and I'll pass. Ben has his flaws, as do just about all players, but he always gives you a chance to win when he is healthy. Before you think too hard about trading Ben, watch the highlights of the 95 Super Bowl. Or any other game between Bradshaw and Ben.

[feltdizz]

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I'm not a Luck fan... but if I was the GM I think I would have to sleep on it. It's similar to the Favre/Rodgers and Montana/Young scenario's....

Ben isn't getting any younger and he doesn't play a style that will lengthen his career. If I think I can get 1 more from Ben vs 3 more with Luck how do you automatically say no to a trade?

[The Man of Steel]

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I always prefer our star players to retire as Steelers whenever possible so it's a resounding 'no' for me.

[pittpete]

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Put Andrew Luck behind this o-line and it would take him years to recover from the shellshock

You dont trade your 29 year old franchise QB unless you are in a rebuilding era.

Brady is 34,Drew Brees is 33 and there's no talk of trading either of them, nor would they
Aaron Rodgers is 1 year younger than Ben.

This is why Rooney suggested Bens game needs tweaking

[JDSteeler]

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It looks like the Peyton era in Indy is over. Arians is in Indy now. We all know how close Ben and Arians are. What if we could get the #1 pick in the draft for Ben? Would you do it?

What if we could go get Peyton Manning once he is cut? We could use the first pick as trade bait. We would for sure need to address the OL in this case. My guess is we could get the browns 2 first round picks for the #1 overall. That would give us the #4, #22, and #24 picks.

Just a thought. I don't know the trade value of the #1 overall (or the rest of the picks throughout the draft). If that is a logical return for the #1 overall, would you do it?

Dude, who are you??

JD

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Put Andrew Luck behind this o-line and it would take him years to recover from the shellshock

You dont trade your 29 year old franchise QB unless you are in a rebuilding era.

Brady is 34,Drew Brees is 33 and there's no talk of trading either of them, nor would they
Aaron Rodgers is 1 year younger than Ben.

This is why Rooney suggested Bens game needs tweaking

There is no real talk of trading Ben either...just hypothetical message board conjecture now that the boring offseason is officially here. As for your "nor would they" statement about Brady and Brees, I think New England would trade a 34 year old Brady for a 22 year old Luck right now. Same thing with New Orleans swapping a 33 year old Brees for a 22 year old Luck. Again, think about how many years you are likely to get out of Brady or Brees from this point forward vs. how much longer you would get out of Andrew Luck (assuming you think he is the next stud, which most do). Rodgers is still in his 20's and just entering the prime of his career without any major injury concerns, so no to that one.

[pittpete]

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There is no guarantee Andrew Luck will be a successfull NFL QB nevermind a superstar QB.
Just ask the Cleveland Browns

[Dee Dub]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

The number 1 overall pick for a two time Super Bowl Champ and 3 time AFC Champ who is in his prime is not a fair deal for the Steelers.

I wouldn't trade Ben for two number one picks.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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There is no guarantee Andrew Luck will be a successfull NFL QB nevermind a superstar QB.
Just ask the Cleveland Browns

Tim Couch is to Andrew Luck as Dan Quayle is to John F. Kennedy.

("Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy" - Senator Lloyd Bentsen, in a debate with Quayle). :P

[Shoe]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Allow me to play devil's advocate here...

Ben will turn 30 very soon. He gets hit A TON and the injuries are mounting more and more every year. His best years will not last much longer. At that point, the Steelers have no back up plan and are unlikely to be in position to draft a game breaker at QB unless they have an absolutely awful season that we all have to endure.

Unloading him for the 1st overall pick, which without his buddy Bruce being involved in would have no chance at happening otherwise, would allow the Steelers to get Andrew Luck, an incredible prospect as a prototype quarterback. Rookies have a salary scale, so Luck wont cost as much as he would have a few years ago. Unloading Ben could greatly help the salary cap situation, too, I would imagine.

Lots of vet players need to be unloaded in the very near future. It's not a full-on rebuilding year, but it is certainly one of change. Steeler Nation has been very fortunate to experience 3 recent Super Bowls, winning 2 of them. If five years from now Ben is gone, and there is no young gun to step in, than a run like that likely doesn't happen again for quite a while. On the other hand, if Luck is as good as advertised, the Steelers have a chance to run off another 3 Super Bowls or more over the next 10 years.


Ben for the Colts 1 and 2 this year and 2 and 3 next year. I would certainly think long and hard about pulling the trigger. It hurts the team this year, but possibly sets them up for the next 10 to 15.

Yes--devil's advocate here, he's not the type who is "untradeable". The type of guy you don't want to trade is the ascending superstar type of player... Ben has already compiled Hall of Fame credentials as far as I'm concerned. Once someone attains a certain level, it's at least fair you've achieved the best you'll get from that player. IOW, it's conceivable that we've seen the best we'll ever see from Ben. In fact, that's probably the case.

Now, that's not to say he's not "elite" or that he can't play as such for years more... it's just looking at the situation from a macro PoV. You bring up all legit points. I would not to do it, because I'm risk averse and prefer sticking with what I have, what I know. I know Ben is a stud. And I know we already have the components (with some minor tinkering) to be SB contenders. Getting rid of him (for lots of picks) is very risky.

[isonator07]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Put Andrew Luck behind this o-line and it would take him years to recover from the shellshock

You dont trade your 29 year old franchise QB unless you are in a rebuilding era.

Brady is 34,Drew Brees is 33 and there's no talk of trading either of them, nor would they
Aaron Rodgers is 1 year younger than Ben.

This is why Rooney suggested Bens game needs tweaking

There is no real talk of trading Ben either...just hypothetical message board conjecture now that the boring offseason is officially here. As for your "nor would they" statement about Brady and Brees, I think New England would trade a 34 year old Brady for a 22 year old Luck right now. Same thing with New Orleans swapping a 33 year old Brees for a 22 year old Luck. Again, think about how many years you are likely to get out of Brady or Brees from this point forward vs. how much longer you would get out of Andrew Luck (assuming you think he is the next stud, which most do). Rodgers is still in his 20's and just entering the prime of his career without any major injury concerns, so no to that one.

That sums it up. I was just throwing it out there. I thought it would be a fun discussion.

[SteelTorch]

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It looks like the Peyton era in Indy is over. Arians is in Indy now. We all know how close Ben and Arians are. What if we could get the #1 pick in the draft for Ben? Would you do it?

What if we could go get Peyton Manning once he is cut? We could use the first pick as trade bait. We would for sure need to address the OL in this case. My guess is we could get the browns 2 first round picks for the #1 overall. That would give us the #4, #22, and #24 picks.

Just a thought. I don't know the trade value of the #1 overall (or the rest of the picks throughout the draft). If that is a logical return for the #1 overall, would you do it?

Interesting post. How should I put this?

No, no, no, not a chance, no way, no, never, no, and above all, NO.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

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We can discuss trading Ben ad nauseum, but the Steelers AIN'T doing it...NO WAY!

[fezziwig]

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Nope, Ben is the real deal and no one to second guess. Who is to say that Luck is going to be a hit in the NFL ?
I agree with you guys when you say, Ben and Haley are proffesionals and I see great things coming in the very near future for our offense and team.

We are just a couple of o-linemen from being a terrific offense with Haley at the helm. Even with the current crew of o-linemen Haley, can make this offense the huge success they always should have been. Ben and Haley will get along as soon as they start winning.


I hope the Steeler organization has learned one thing from all this. " DON'T WAIT ANOTHER 20 YEARS TO DRAFT A QUARTERBACK AT NUMBER ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!