Would you trade Big Ben?

[isonator07]

It looks like the Peyton era in Indy is over. Arians is in Indy now. We all know how close Ben and Arians are. What if we could get the #1 pick in the draft for Ben? Would you do it?

What if we could go get Peyton Manning once he is cut? We could use the first pick as trade bait. We would for sure need to address the OL in this case. My guess is we could get the browns 2 first round picks for the #1 overall. That would give us the #4, #22, and #24 picks.

Just a thought. I don't know the trade value of the #1 overall (or the rest of the picks throughout the draft). If that is a logical return for the #1 overall, would you do it?

[Sugar]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Nope. Ben is the last current Steelers player I would ever trade.

[grotonsteel]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Ben for washed up QB and few college players who have never played in NFL?? No Way.

Ben is the most important player on Steelers team.

[MicroBioSteel]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

My price for Ben would be 2 consecutive first round pics plus 3 consecutive 2nd rounders. Every player has a price including Franchise QBs. That would be my price.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Has Ben really done anything wrong this offseason. He had an offensive coordinator he liked working with & they went to three Superbowls together. Ben was comfy in his situation.

Arians has mentioned retiring the past couple seasons. Art II maybe thought it a wise move to bring in a new OC at the point in Ben & the offense situations. You figure We have a good crew of WR & Ben plus Heath signed for the time being. Would it be better to stick with Arians for the next season or two, then hr retires and we are at this point of a new OC, or we pull the plug now & bring in z new guy, get an offense set up this season & see what happens.

People act like Haley & Ben are going to start brawling on the sideline & the two haven't even met. They are going to be fine. I predict good things.

[isonator07]

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Has Ben really done anything wrong this offseason. He had an offensive coordinator he liked working with & they went to three Superbowls together. Ben was comfy in his situation.

Arians has mentioned retiring the past couple seasons. Art II maybe thought it a wise move to bring in a new OC at the point in Ben & the offense situations. You figure We have a good crew of WR & Ben plus Heath signed for the time being. Would it be better to stick with Arians for the next season or two, then hr retires and we are at this point of a new OC, or we pull the plug now & bring in z new guy, get an offense set up this season & see what happens.

People act like Haley & Ben are going to start brawling on the sideline & the two haven't even met. They are going to be fine. I predict good things.

I'm not jumping ship on Ben. I don't expect any major problems between him and Haley. Having 3 picks in the top 24 could go a long way. I think the type of qb Manning is (was) could utilize our WR's, maybe better than Ben.

If Manning is done then I would never consider it. I just don't think Manning is done. In my scenario we could end up with Manning, Decastro, Glenn, Poe.

[D Rock]

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Allow me to play devil's advocate here...

Ben will turn 30 very soon. He gets hit A TON and the injuries are mounting more and more every year. His best years will not last much longer. At that point, the Steelers have no back up plan and are unlikely to be in position to draft a game breaker at QB unless they have an absolutely awful season that we all have to endure.

Unloading him for the 1st overall pick, which without his buddy Bruce being involved in would have no chance at happening otherwise, would allow the Steelers to get Andrew Luck, an incredible prospect as a prototype quarterback. Rookies have a salary scale, so Luck wont cost as much as he would have a few years ago. Unloading Ben could greatly help the salary cap situation, too, I would imagine.

Lots of vet players need to be unloaded in the very near future. It's not a full-on rebuilding year, but it is certainly one of change. Steeler Nation has been very fortunate to experience 3 recent Super Bowls, winning 2 of them. If five years from now Ben is gone, and there is no young gun to step in, than a run like that likely doesn't happen again for quite a while. On the other hand, if Luck is as good as advertised, the Steelers have a chance to run off another 3 Super Bowls or more over the next 10 years.


Ben for the Colts 1 and 2 this year and 2 and 3 next year. I would certainly think long and hard about pulling the trigger. It hurts the team this year, but possibly sets them up for the next 10 to 15.

[isonator07]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Allow me to play devil's advocate here...

Ben will turn 30 very soon. He gets hit A TON and the injuries are mounting more and more every year. His best years will not last much longer. At that point, the Steelers have no back up plan and are unlikely to be in position to draft a game breaker at QB unless they have an absolutely awful season that we all have to endure.

Unloading him for the 1st overall pick, which without his buddy Bruce being involved in would have no chance at happening otherwise, would allow the Steelers to get Andrew Luck, an incredible prospect as a prototype quarterback. Rookies have a salary scale, so Luck wont cost as much as he would have a few years ago. Unloading Ben could greatly help the salary cap situation, too, I would imagine.

Lots of vet players need to be unloaded in the very near future. It's not a full-on rebuilding year, but it is certainly one of change. Steeler Nation has been very fortunate to experience 3 recent Super Bowls, winning 2 of them. If five years from now Ben is gone, and there is no young gun to step in, than a run like that likely doesn't happen again for quite a while. On the other hand, if Luck is as good as advertised, the Steelers have a chance to run off another 3 Super Bowls or more over the next 10 years.


Ben for the Colts 1 and 2 this year and 2 and 3 next year. I would certainly think long and hard about pulling the trigger. It hurts the team this year, but possibly sets them up for the next 10 to 15.

Good point on the cap savings.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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It's a pipe dream, but if the Colts were willing to part with the #1 overall pick for Roethlisberger, you don't turn around and trade the #1 pick to the Browns for their two picks (why would you want to hand a potential elite level QB to a division rival?), even if you could get Peyton (who is entering his late 30's and is on his last legs with multiple neck surgeries). You take Andrew Luck and don't look back. Ben's turning 30 in a few weeks and has had countless injuries (at his current pace, who knows how many more years his body has left in it). Meanwhile, Luck is 22...a young QB who would be able to grow with this young WR corps for his whole career. If we are lucky, we may have a half dozen more years worth of Ben...could potentially have triple that with Luck. Just ridiculous conjecture though...the Colts wouldn't trade the Luck pick for anything at this point, just like the Penguins wouldn't trade the Crosby pick for anything when they won that draft lottery.

[Captain Lemming]

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the Colts wouldn't trade the Luck pick for anything at this point, just like the Penguins wouldn't trade the Crosby pick for anything when they won that draft lottery.

Agreed.
We are a year away from having been in the SB and are a CURRENT SB contender. The Colts are not going to a SB with Ben. This is not to say I'd have no price. But the price will not be acceptable to the Colts because they ARE in rebuilding mode.

Ben has greater value to a contender than the Colts. Even a staight-up trade for the number one and nothing else makes no sense for the Colts. They are better off going with the kid.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

no, I wouldn't.

Ben is a winner and has another couple of Super Bowl victories still left in him as a Pittsburgh Steeler!!

[Snatch98]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Absolutely not. Insane to even discuss it AND certainly not for Peyton Manning.

[7 UP]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

Absolutely not. Insane to even discuss it AND certainly not for Peyton Manning.

Thank you. Im glad to see not everyone is insane.

[Discipline of Steel]

Re: Would you trade Big Ben?

no, I wouldn't.

Ben is a winner and has another couple of Super Bowl victories still left in him as a Pittsburgh Steeler!!

Yes, this idea is like trading Terry Bradshaw after Super Bowl XII.

[steelblood]

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I don't know. I'd think about that. It would help our cap problems and Luck may be good very quickly. He is tough, durable, and much younger. I probably would not do it. But, if Ben was still complaining about Arians and firing off warnings about changing the offense, I'd consider it. I think Luck would be a fan favorite here and would be quite good.