**EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

[pittpete]

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I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

[Oviedo]

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Regarding the 5 receiver set, he uses it as much if not more than Arians.

Honest question, please show me proof where Haley while as OC has consistently used 5 WR sets.

Insanesteelerfan are you back in disguise?

Go back and watch the SB again, it's full of 4 and 5 wr sets. I know people think he's going to bring back the power running game, but his record shows somethihg different. He had a 62%-38% run to pass ratio in 07 and 66%-34% ratio in 2008. He actually throws the ball more than Arians.

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

In Arizona, they had very good receivers and a rejuvenated Kurt Warner. At RB, they had a broken down Edgerrin James. Spreading it out and throwning the ball made sense with those personnel.

In KC, despite a big money QB and one pretty decent WR, they pounded the ball because they had a solid stable of backs, including an explosive Jamaal Charles.

In Pittsburgh, I'm expecting to see a more balanced offense from Haley.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I think Haley has shown he adjusts to the tools that he has. My only concern is the personality issue and any conflict with Ben. Hopefully he has the self discipline to control that.

[Oviedo]

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I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

One could argue that Arians did adjust to the talent we had which is why we passed more. Our strength on offense is at the WR psotion not the RB position. Arians problem was the style of passing attack we had. You can't have a vertical attack which requires time for routes to develop when your OL stinks.

[mazze]

Re: **EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

We've got 3 very good wr's, a very good te, franchise qb, and two average rb's. Passing is our strength.

[ikestops85]

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I am not happy with the selection.


But what the hell do I know

[williar]

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I'm happy with it. To me, it was somewhat of a radical move that spoke volumes of how the FO really felt about the direction our offense was taking. I'm happy because ownership is taking control of their team and doing what is best for the team. Saying no, Ben, your not running things.........

[phillyesq]

Re: **EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

We've got 3 very good wr's, a very good te, franchise qb, and two average rb's. Passing is our strength.

As Ovi mentioned, long developing pass plays are not the strength of this offense due to the porous offensive line.

Ben is at his best when there is a balanced offense. Look at how the running game in 2005 opened things up for Ben in the passing game.

[feltdizz]

Re: **EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

We've got 3 very good wr's, a very good te, franchise qb, and two average rb's. Passing is our strength.

[grotonsteel]

Re: **EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

We've got 3 very good wr's, a very good te, franchise qb, and two average rb's. Passing is our strength.

I hope they remove that stupid 3 TE set and go with 3-4 WR set more frequently.

And i am happy he won't run the ball for the sake of it. Steelers strength is their QB and passing game. It should be pass first mentality with this offense. Get some O-linemen who can pass-block.

[feltdizz]

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Is running the ball for the sake of it anytime a run doesn't get 5 yards? Just want to be clear what running for the sake of it means so for Haley's sake.

[Oviedo]

Re: **EDIT: Todd Haley has been hired as the OC

I think the offenses that he's been involved with have been tailored to the personnel that he has.

Right on the FN $$$$$$$$$$
Exactly what Arians couldn't and wouldn't do.
Use the personnel you have to get the most out of your players.
Dont try to

We've got 3 very good wr's, a very good te, franchise qb, and two average rb's. Passing is our strength.

I hope they remove that stupid 3 TE set and go with 3-4 WR set more frequently.

And i am happy he won't run the ball for the sake of it. Steelers strength is their QB and passing game. It should be pass first mentality with this offense. Get some O-linemen who can pass-block.

With Saunders getting in trouble, we may have a real depth issue at the TE position since Johnson is pretty worthless. Three TEs will likely be impossible to get on the field.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Offensive coordinator Haley's abrasive style doesn't deter Steelers

By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, February 8, 2012



There is a method to Todd Haley's perceived madness, and looking beyond the fits of anger to which he is prone is the key to understanding the new Steelers' offensive coordinator.

That is the message Kurt Warner has for Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who had flourished under Bruce Arians and developed a close relationship with the Steelers' former offensive coordinator.

"You have to welcome people that come along that aren't willing to be status quo, and that's what I would tell Ben or any of the (Steelers') players," said Warner, the former NFL quarterback who resurrected his career in Arizona while Haley was the offensive coordinator there. "Everybody sees the outburst on the sidelines and hears about some of those things, and they get scared away by that persona.

"All I would tell those guys is, you always have to figure out where a coach is coming from before you can read too much into certain characteristics or certain antics that they have."

The Steelers left little doubt they were trying to shake things up when they officially hired Haley on Tuesday.

Haley, who returns to the organization for which he once served as a ball boy, is strong-willed and fiercely competitive, and he can be confrontational.

The coaching style that has been described as abrasive is something that could put Haley on a collision course with Roethlisberger.

"I know all the reports and talks about how outspoken he is, and for me I'm a guy that believes as long as those things aren't personal I welcome opportunities for people to challenge me to be better, and that's what Todd's about," said Warner, who is an analyst for NFL Network. "I'm OK with a guy seeing me not play my best and get on me for it, no matter how much success I've had and what I've accomplished."

Haley has built a reputation for having a keen offensive mind and an ability to adapt to his personnel. He also clashed with players he became close with, such as Warner, because is so demanding.

He inherits an offense that struggled with efficiency last season — the Steelers were tied for 21st in scoring (20.3 points per game) — despite having a 4,000-yard passer (Roethlisberger) and two 1,000-yard receivers (Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown).

"He's a coach that's not afraid to challenge guys," Warner said, "regardless of where you stand in the hierarchy, how long you've been there, what your contract is, what kind of success you've had."

Warner nearly led the Cardinals to an upset of the Steelers in the Super Bowl XLIII, and Arizona's success that season led to Haley's hiring in 2009 as Kansas City's head coach.

Haley was fired after a little less than three seasons with the Chiefs, but as landing spots go it probably doesn't get much better for Haley than Pittsburgh.

He graduated from Upper St. Clair High School, and his father, Dick, helped build teams that won four Super Bowls in the 1970s as the Steelers' director of player personnel.

"I am excited about the opportunity to come back home and work for a tremendous organization," Haley said in a statement released by the Steelers. "My father has so many fond memories both from his playing days and his time in the personnel department with the team, and I look forward to helping bring more championships to Pittsburgh."

HALEY'S RESUME

Todd Haley will work for his sixth NFL franchise after joining the Steelers on Tuesday as the team's new offensive coordinator. Here are his other NFL stops:

Years: Position

2009-11: Kansas City Chiefs' coach

2007-09: Arizona Cardinals' offensive coordinator

2004-06: Dallas Cowboys' wide receivers coach/passing game coordinator

2001-03: Chicago Bears' wide receivers coach

1997-2000: New York Jets' offensive assistant/wide receivers coach

1995-96: New York Jets' scouting assistant

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[NJ-STEELER]

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What is this "go back and watch the Super Bowl crap"? Of course he used 4 WR sets. Our DBs were the weakest part of our defense. What was he supposed to do, come out with 3 TEs and try to run against the 2008 Steelers? That would have been stupid and I wouldn't want that coordinator.

yeah, we saw enuff of that out of cowher

[RuthlessBurgher]

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I know all the reports and talks about how outspoken he is, and for me I'm a guy that believes as long as those things aren't personal I welcome opportunities for people to challenge me to be better, and that's what Todd's about," said Warner, who is an analyst for NFL Network. "I'm OK with a guy seeing me not play my best and get on me for it, no matter how much success I've had and what I've accomplished."

Haley has built a reputation for having a keen offensive mind and an ability to adapt to his personnel. He also clashed with players he became close with, such as Warner, because is so demanding.

He inherits an offense that struggled with efficiency last season — the Steelers were tied for 21st in scoring (20.3 points per game) — despite having a 4,000-yard passer (Roethlisberger) and two 1,000-yard receivers (Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown).

"He's a coach that's not afraid to challenge guys," Warner said, "regardless of where you stand in the hierarchy, how long you've been there, what your contract is, what kind of success you've had."

All of this sounds like he is everything that Arians was not.

[Keyplay1]

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Adding someone with all that experience to the Steeler organization seems like a real plus. And as RB reminds us Tomlin's last 3 hire were all very good ones.