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  • steelerkeylargo
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2009
    • 2507

    #16
    Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

    Originally posted by Dee Dub
    Since Marcus Gilbert is likely moving to LT, this may create a win-win situtation for the Steelers draft wise. I have been taking a long hard look at Zebrie Sanders (SKL gets credit for this ), and he is a solid RT who very well could come right in and start (like Gilbert did this tear). Because of the premium put on the LT those that are draft-able in round one are out of reach for the Steelers at 24. But a legit RT isnt. And quite frankly they may be even able to trade back a few spots and draft Zebrie Sanders along with acquiring another pick in round 2, 3, or 4. I am not a salary cap guy but I would think this would also free up "some" money by releasing Willie Colon. Too me, the more I look at this, the more I like it. I am not yet at 100% sold but I am starting to reach for my wallet.

    Gilbert-Legursky-Pouncey-Foster-Sanders ( this may be the best O-line the Steelers have had in a long time).

    Would love to hear some thoughts on this.
    Thanks for the shout out here Dub. Sanders is a player I really liked as a junior when he played RT. After the Noles LT Andrew Datko went down this year they moved Sanders over and he didn't fare as well. Having said that I still think Sanders is a better long term prospect than Gilbert and would have no issues drafting him on a trade back scenario. 1/24 is a bit to high.






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    • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 10281

      #17
      Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

      Originally posted by Slapstick
      I think that cap hit is mistaken...

      Colon got a $6 million bonus on a five year contract...that pro-rates at $1.2 million per year...

      That leaves $4.8 mil...unless Colon's cap it is more than $9 million, the Steelers won't save anywhere near $4.5 million...
      They can save $4.5M in 2012 if they are willing to roll $3.6M of cap hit into 2013.

      I don't see them doing this, I don't remember them ever doing this in the past, but it is possible.
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      • SS Laser
        Pro Bowler
        • Apr 2009
        • 1929

        #18
        Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

        So who is a better RT coming out? Sanders or Glenn? Or is Glenn a better guard that can play RT if needed?

        If Colon is coming back Glenn might be the better idea if he can come in and play guard right away. Then if Colon is hurt again or not up to the task. Move Glenn to RT.

        But what happens if Gilbert can't handle LT and is only a RT?

        I know everyone says it will not happen, But I hope if Colon struggles at RT after 2 years of not playing and injuries he can play guard.

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        • Chadman
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6537

          #19
          Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

          How many of you believe the Steelers will go into the season with a 2nd year player at LT & a rookie starting at RT?


          Colon will be back at RT, Chadman nearly guarentees it.
          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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          • SS Laser
            Pro Bowler
            • Apr 2009
            • 1929

            #20
            Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

            Originally posted by Chadman
            How many of you believe the Steelers will go into the season with a 2nd year player at LT & a rookie starting at RT?

            Colon will be back at RT, Chadman nearly guarentees it.
            What did the steelers do this year? Yes Colon was there for the start. Then bam hurt. Steelers had a "back up" guy at LT in Scott and a rookie at RT. I think Gilbert is better then Scott, well I hope so. I also have no faith in Colon being himself or not getting hurt again.

            I do agree that when camp starts Colon will be #1 at RT. But no reason not to bring in a guy who could replace him if hurt or next year. And to give him a push in camp.

            That is why I like Glenn. Could be a very good guard and a good RT from what I read and fans here say. If Colon fails there is a plan in place. I guess if Scott is around he could be the RT. But I don't have faith in him. Scott was a good fill in at LT for the super bowl year then stinks this year?

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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #21
              Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              I think that cap hit is mistaken...

              Colon got a $6 million bonus on a five year contract...that pro-rates at $1.2 million per year...

              That leaves $4.8 mil...unless Colon's cap it is more than $9 million, the Steelers won't save anywhere near $4.5 million...
              They can save $4.5M in 2012 if they are willing to roll $3.6M of cap hit into 2013.

              I don't see them doing this, I don't remember them ever doing this in the past, but it is possible.
              simmons??

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              • StarSpangledSteeler
                Starter
                • Feb 2010
                • 560

                #22
                Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                Originally posted by Chadman
                How many of you believe the Steelers will go into the season with a 2nd year player at LT & a rookie starting at RT?


                Colon will be back at RT, Chadman nearly guarentees it.
                How many of you believe Colon will stay healthy at RT this season?

                Colon will get injured, SSS nearly guarantees it.

                (And when he does, who is his back up?)

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                  Colon had two season ending injuries, but they were radically different and more a result of terrible coincidence than anything else...

                  For the people pimping Max Starks to come back, he also suffered two different season ending injuries this year and last, like Colon...Max's injury timing was good enough that people here tend to forget that...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #24
                    Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                    Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    I think that cap hit is mistaken...

                    Colon got a $6 million bonus on a five year contract...that pro-rates at $1.2 million per year...

                    That leaves $4.8 mil...unless Colon's cap it is more than $9 million, the Steelers won't save anywhere near $4.5 million...
                    They can save $4.5M in 2012 if they are willing to roll $3.6M of cap hit into 2013.

                    I don't see them doing this, I don't remember them ever doing this in the past, but it is possible.
                    Oh, so we're making the post-June 1st cut assumption...I get it...

                    Personally, the only post-June 1st cut that I see the Steelers making is possibly Kemoeatu this year...

                    The other positions (WR - Hines, CB - McFadden) there seems to be quality young players on the roster...I think the Steelers will go through the draft and free agency to see if they can come up with a player at OG...they will have some offseason workouts/minicamps to evaluate what they have and decide if Kemo is expendable or not prior to June...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #25
                      Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                      Originally posted by SS Laser
                      So who is a better RT coming out? Sanders or Glenn? Or is Glenn a better guard that can play RT if needed?
                      They have completely different body types. Both are 6'5" but Sanders is listed at 307 lbs. while Glenn is listed at 348 lbs. Knowing our teams preferences, they tend to prefer road grader types at guard and right tackle. I think that Glenn fits that mold better (a potential starting guard who could fill in at RT if injuries strike).

                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #26
                        Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Originally posted by SS Laser
                        So who is a better RT coming out? Sanders or Glenn? Or is Glenn a better guard that can play RT if needed?
                        They have completely different body types. Both are 6'5" but Sanders is listed at 307 lbs. while Glenn is listed at 348 lbs. Knowing our teams preferences, they tend to prefer road grader types at guard and right tackle. I think that Glenn fits that mold better (a potential starting guard who could fill in at RT if injuries strike).


                        Glenn is #1 in my Mock. Start him inside and "grow him" to the outside when Colon gets injured again. Glenn has way more flexibility than Sanders.
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                        • StarSpangledSteeler
                          Starter
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 560

                          #27
                          Re: Here is a thought on the Steelers draft...

                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Colon had two season ending injuries, but they were radically different and more a result of terrible coincidence than anything else...

                          For the people pimping Max Starks to come back, he also suffered two different season ending injuries this year and last, like Colon...Max's injury timing was good enough that people here tend to forget that...
                          Just so I understand... Are you saying you think Colon will stay healthy this year?

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