OK, I will say it

[pittpete]

Arians needs to go.
Mike, grow a FN pair and fire this genius or you can go with him.
P.S Take D.Johnson all 300 pounds of him with you.
Tell Bruce its not you its me.

Offensive Total Points Scored NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. NFL Rank 14
2011--22nd
2010--12th
2009---7th
2008--20th
2007---9th
Offensive Total Yards NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. 14.4
2011--12th
2010--14th
2009---7th
2008--22nd
2007--17th
Any wonder why this moron has never been coveted by any NFL team for a headcoaching stint.
Average Arians at best.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: OK, I will say it

Arians needs to go.
Mike, grow a FN pair and fire this genius or you can go with him.
P.S Take D.Johnson all 300 pounds of him with you.
Tell Bruce its not you its me.

Offensive Total Points Scored NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. NFL Rank 14
2011--22nd
2010--12th
2009---7th
2008--20th
2007---9th
Offensive Total Yards NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. 14.4
2011--12th
2010--14th
2009---7th
2008--22nd
2007--17th
Any wonder why this moron has never been coveted by any NFL team for a headcoaching stint.
Average Arians at best.

Not to even mention red zone scoring.

Pete, you are right about this...but allow me to predict some of the responses that you will get:

"Arians isn't that bad of an OC."
"We won a Super Bowl with him."
"It's all on the players--they keep failing to execute."

[sd steel]

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Being ranked 14th isn't really that bad considering our division and our strength of schedule the last 5 years, and having the #1 or #2 ranked defense is a recipe for Division Championships, playoff success, and Super Bowl appearances.

If our offense was ranked higher we would win the Super Bowl every year and never lose, we would basically have no competition...what fun would that be?

[sd steel]

Re: OK, I will say it

Arians needs to go.
Mike, grow a FN pair and fire this genius or you can go with him.
P.S Take D.Johnson all 300 pounds of him with you.
Tell Bruce its not you its me.

Offensive Total Points Scored NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. NFL Rank 14
2011--22nd
2010--12th
2009---7th
2008--20th
2007---9th
Offensive Total Yards NFL Rank 5 Year AVG. 14.4
2011--12th
2010--14th
2009---7th
2008--22nd
2007--17th
Any wonder why this moron has never been coveted by any NFL team for a headcoaching stint.
Average Arians at best.

Well, I agree with you, but allow me to predict some of the responses that you will get to this post:

"Arians isn't that bad of an OC."
"We won a Super Bowl with him."
"It's all on the players--they keep failing to execute."

You got me!! But you know when he was looking up the stats he was hoping we were ranked in the 20's.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

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Being ranked 14th isn't really that bad considering our division and our strength of schedule the last 5 years, and having the #1 or #2 ranked defense is a recipe for Division Championships, playoff success, and Super Bowl appearances.

If our offense was ranked higher we would win the Super Bowl every year and never lose, we would basically have no competition...what fun would that be?

Win the Super Bowl every year? I'd be up for that kind of fun!

[pittpete]

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I dont care what people say, this is what i feel.
This team needs a new OC next year.
When we win, its usually because of Ben scrambling or making a ply.
Does anyone honestly ever say wow, that was a well designed offensive play or wow that was a perfect time to run that play.
Even Gruden said last night "what a horrible route distribution on Bens first pick.
A man that insists on having D.Johnson on the field for 75% of the night should be beat.
He confuses his own players with his overthought personnel changes and substitutions then outwitting the opposition.
There is not a whole lot of play creativity being seen here week after week, we seem to come out flat after the half and we can never finish lately.
Start fresh and let Ben sulk.
Might just extend his career a few more years.

[sd steel]

Re: OK, I will say it

I dont care what people say, this is what i feel.
This team needs a new OC next year.
When we win, its usually because of Ben scrambling or making a ply.
Does anyone honestly ever say wow, that was a well designed offensive play or wow that was a perfect time to run that play.
Even Gruden said last night "what a horrible route distribution on Bens first pick.
A man that insists on having D.Johnson on the field for 75% of the night should be beat.
He confuses his own players with his overthought personnel changes and substitutions then outwitting the opposition.
There is not a whole lot of play creativity being seen here week after week, we seem to come out flat after the half and we can never finish lately.
Start fresh and let Ben sulk.
Might just extend his career a few more years.

I think the play that Gruden was talking about, (the interception) someone ran the wrong route. I don't disagree that Arians is bad, but Norv Turner has sucked all year in SD, yet he put together a perfect game for the Ravens, and Arians play calling for the Pats** game was perfect. That being said, how bad is Lebeau? I mean if you have ever played Madden you know that if you want to beat the Steelers with the Niners all you need to do is hit Vernon Davis on crossing patterns all night.

So yes Arians leaves much to be desired, put so would every other OC who sits in that seat. At least he was in the top half of the league, our next OC could very well be in the low 20's...remember Kevin Gilbridt or old Sherm? Just saying it could be worse.

[Starlifter]

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norv turner may be available pretty soon. I think he's a horrible HC - but there is no doubt he is an offensive mastermind.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

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I want an OC that can look Ben in the eye and tell him he is playing like crap or making idiotic decisions. That young offensive coach from NE available?

[Chadman]

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It might very well be time to make the move on Arians.

Unlike many of you, Chadman doesn't really have a problem with BA- even his reluctance to play a FB.

He's never had the luxury of an OL that can actually block, so his running game has continually suffered as a result.

That said- Chadman believes in things going stale- and from the looks of it, the Steelers O migt be in danger of just that. The players are there, but we are not really seeing them exceed themselves as much as we'd like, and we are not seeing some players develop as much as we would like either.

New ideas & new schemes can change that. It might bring players that we consider under-used more into the spotlight- guys like Redman & Saunders for example.

That said, the new OC better know how to gameplan for the opposition D being in the Steeler backfield 90% of the game..

[MeetJoeGreene]

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norv turner may be available pretty soon. I think he's a horrible HC - but there is no doubt he is an offensive mastermind.

+1

[fezziwig]

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I can't believe some people are just realizing that Arians is a joke and that others haven't figured it out yet.

I know BA didn't throw the picks but knowing he had a wounded QB he should have had Ben throwing short passes to the point it equaled a running game. I said that days before the game, BA must not have gotten the memo.

[RKSteel]

Re: OK, I will say it

I dont care what people say, this is what i feel.
This team needs a new OC next year.
When we win, its usually because of Ben scrambling or making a ply.
Does anyone honestly ever say wow, that was a well designed offensive play or wow that was a perfect time to run that play.
Even Gruden said last night "what a horrible route distribution on Bens first pick.
A man that insists on having D.Johnson on the field for 75% of the night should be beat.
He confuses his own players with his overthought personnel changes and substitutions then outwitting the opposition.
There is not a whole lot of play creativity being seen here week after week, we seem to come out flat after the half and we can never finish lately.
Start fresh and let Ben sulk.
Might just extend his career a few more years.

I think the play that Gruden was talking about, (the interception) someone ran the wrong route. I don't disagree that Arians is bad, but Norv Turner has sucked all year in SD, yet he put together a perfect game for the Ravens, and Arians play calling for the Pats** game was perfect. That being said, how bad is Lebeau? I mean if you have ever played Madden you know that if you want to beat the Steelers with the Niners all you need to do is hit Vernon Davis on crossing patterns all night.

So yes Arians leaves much to be desired, put so would every other OC who sits in that seat. At least he was in the top half of the league, our next OC could very well be in the low 20's...remember Kevin Gilbridt or old Sherm? Just saying it could be worse.

I remember Gilbride and Lewis, I also remember Kordell was the QB. Cannot get worse than that. Unless you include the Mike Tomzak/Kent Graham period.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: OK, I will say it

I dont care what people say, this is what i feel.
This team needs a new OC next year.
When we win, its usually because of Ben scrambling or making a ply.
Does anyone honestly ever say wow, that was a well designed offensive play or wow that was a perfect time to run that play.
Even Gruden said last night "what a horrible route distribution on Bens first pick.
A man that insists on having D.Johnson on the field for 75% of the night should be beat.
He confuses his own players with his overthought personnel changes and substitutions then outwitting the opposition.
There is not a whole lot of play creativity being seen here week after week, we seem to come out flat after the half and we can never finish lately.
Start fresh and let Ben sulk.
Might just extend his career a few more years.

I think the play that Gruden was talking about, (the interception) someone ran the wrong route. I don't disagree that Arians is bad, but Norv Turner has sucked all year in SD, yet he put together a perfect game for the Ravens, and Arians play calling for the Pats** game was perfect. That being said, how bad is Lebeau? I mean if you have ever played Madden you know that if you want to beat the Steelers with the Niners all you need to do is hit Vernon Davis on crossing patterns all night.

So yes Arians leaves much to be desired, put so would every other OC who sits in that seat. At least he was in the top half of the league, our next OC could very well be in the low 20's...remember Kevin Gilbridt or old Sherm? Just saying it could be worse.

I remember Gilbride and Lewis, I also remember Kordell was the QB. Cannot get worse than that. Unless you include the Mike Tomzak/Kent Graham period.

Sherm was referring to Ray Sherman, not Sherm Lewis (who was an NFL offensive coordinator, but not here).

[feltdizz]

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I can't believe some people are just realizing that Arians is a joke and that others haven't figured it out yet.

I know BA didn't throw the picks but knowing he had a wounded QB he should have had Ben throwing short passes to the point it equaled a running game. I said that days before the game, BA must not have gotten the memo.

Can you really make Ben throw shorter passes? The only way you can do that is to stop all long pass patterns and then guess what will happen? Ben will break the pocket, point a WR to go long and still go for the HR. The short pass was there and looking at a few replays it looked like the TE Johnson may have been the intended WR on that route.