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  • TallyStiller
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    • Dec 2008
    • 513

    Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

    It was kind of expected that Timmons was going to step up and become the next great Steeler linebacker. We were looking for splash plays - forced fumbles, picks, sacks... and paid him handsomely based on that expectation. He was supposed to possess a unique skill set - safety speed and linebacker size - that would help him become the new wild card in the Steeler D, augmenting or even supplanting Troy in that role, some said.

    In watching last night's game, it seemed to me that his physique - and his cover skills - looked about the same as James Farrior's... which brings me to my question. Has Timmons bulked up too much? It seems like he's carrying an extra 15 or 20 pounds, and to me it's robbing him of the skill set that was supposed to make him a star. Time to call Jenny Craig? Is he going to be another Levon Kirkland? Do they change his workout regimen and help him slim down? Or have they taken a high first round pick and effectively turned him into a lead footed heavy hitting inside thumper the like of which can be easily had on the second day of every draft?
  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #2
    Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

    The guy has always been "expectations" and "potential". I'm really tired of the love fest that people have with Timmons. Look at it objectively and he doesn't deserve all the credit he gets. I would say he's average.. big deal.

    I don't know the terms of his contract but I hope it's not near top 10-15 LB money.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • Lebsteel
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 1007

      #3
      Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

      Said it before, but Paul Posluszny should have been the pick...after four years, compare the stats. I also am tired of the POTENTIAL of Timmons...show up for once this year and realize that potential!
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      • phillyesq
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 7568

        #4
        Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

        For a guy that is supposed to be an asset in coverage, he routinely gets toasted by opposing TEs.

        Although he made a few plays in the run game, Timmons has probably been the biggest disappointment on the defense.

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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #5
          Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

          Originally posted by phillyesq
          For a guy that is supposed to be an asset in coverage, he routinely gets toasted by opposing TEs.

          Although he made a few plays in the run game, Timmons has probably been the biggest disappointment on the defense.
          No kidding

          0 Force Fumbles
          0 Sacks
          1 INT (that fell right into his lap)


          Now, that's impressive. But as a 5-year pro, he's has all the "potential" to be great.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

            Originally posted by TallyStiller
            It was kind of expected that Timmons was going to step up and become the next great Steeler linebacker. We were looking for splash plays - forced fumbles, picks, sacks... and paid him handsomely based on that expectation. He was supposed to possess a unique skill set - safety speed and linebacker size - that would help him become the new wild card in the Steeler D, augmenting or even supplanting Troy in that role, some said.

            In watching last night's game, it seemed to me that his physique - and his cover skills - looked about the same as James Farrior's... which brings me to my question. Has Timmons bulked up too much? It seems like he's carrying an extra 15 or 20 pounds, and to me it's robbing him of the skill set that was supposed to make him a star. Time to call Jenny Craig? Is he going to be another Levon Kirkland? Do they change his workout regimen and help him slim down? Or have they taken a high first round pick and effectively turned him into a lead footed heavy hitting inside thumper the like of which can be easily had on the second day of every draft?
            I think Timmon's may have bulked up. I can't explain this drop in production after last year. I expected a lot more from him.

            Mend is also a guy who bulked up and is slower.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Keyplay1
              Starter
              • Mar 2011
              • 613

              #7
              Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

              Was he the guy that was covering Heath Miller and did such a great job on him, pretty much taking him out of the game. Well, he sure looked like the Timmons of a few years ago when he was frequently used in that capacity.

              Anyhow, it occurred to me that maybe the Steelers will not have to use a bunch of #1 and 2 draft picks on ILB's in the next few years. Are any of these SF LB's going to be FA's. They sure seemed to be overloaded with them.

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              • pittpete
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #8
                Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                I keyed on Timmons for a whole lot of that game last night.
                On 2 consectuve plays he blitzed and Gore stoned him on both.
                He missed several tackles including the one where Farrior penetrated deep into the backfield and Timmons just missed the tackle for a loss and the niners gained 2 yards.
                Just not the player he was last year IMHO
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                • skyhawk
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3732

                  #9
                  Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                  Timmons really misses Aaron Smith. That guy could open things up for any linebacker.

                  Look at Timmons drop off in production since Smith has been gone (his move to OLB not withstanding).

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                  • skyhawk
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3732

                    #10
                    Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                    Originally posted by Keyplay1
                    Was he the guy that was covering Heath Miller and did such a great job on him, pretty much taking him out of the game. Well, he sure looked like the Timmons of a few years ago when he was frequently used in that capacity.

                    Anyhow, it occurred to me that maybe the Steelers will not have to use a bunch of #1 and 2 draft picks on ILB's in the next few years. Are any of these SF LB's going to be FA's. They sure seemed to be overloaded with them.
                    I also saw where that LB was covering Miller late in the game. He was just plain faceguarding the guy. Miller did have some good catches/moves in the game though.

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #11
                      Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                      Originally posted by Lebsteel
                      Said it before, but Paul Posluszny should have been the pick...after four years, compare the stats. I also am tired of the POTENTIAL of Timmons...show up for once this year and realize that potential!

                      Yea, Posluszny has been such a difference maker in Buffalo and now Jacksonville.

                      The only thing I saw from him last Thursday was mostly getting run over or chasing after the ball carrier after they got past the LOS.
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        #12
                        Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Originally posted by Lebsteel
                        Said it before, but Paul Posluszny should have been the pick...after four years, compare the stats. I also am tired of the POTENTIAL of Timmons...show up for once this year and realize that potential!

                        Yea, Posluszny has been such a difference maker in Buffalo and now Jacksonville.

                        The only thing I saw from him last Thursday was mostly getting run over or chasing after the ball carrier after they got past the LOS.
                        Poz isn't a bad player but I think a lot of LB's on losing teams end up with nice stats because they are on the field all day long.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                          Originally posted by phillyesq
                          For a guy that is supposed to be an asset in coverage, he routinely gets toasted by opposing TEs.

                          Although he made a few plays in the run game, Timmons has probably been the biggest disappointment on the defense.
                          Timmons is third on the team in tackles and unlike Harrison and Woodley he can least be there every game. You can't complain unless you know what he is being asked to do. I've seen him covering TEs much this season probably because Farrior can't anymore and I don't recall him being toasted on a regular basis. Most of the TEs that are being successful are going against our DBs.
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Originally posted by Lebsteel
                            Said it before, but Paul Posluszny should have been the pick...after four years, compare the stats. I also am tired of the POTENTIAL of Timmons...show up for once this year and realize that potential!

                            Yea, Posluszny has been such a difference maker in Buffalo and now Jacksonville.

                            The only thing I saw from him last Thursday was mostly getting run over or chasing after the ball carrier after they got past the LOS.
                            Poz isn't a bad player but I think a lot of LB's on losing teams end up with nice stats because they are on the field all day long.

                            Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. When you defense can't get off the field of course you are going to have more tackle. It is a simple matter of increased opportunity.

                            Poz isn't a bad player (IMO he is a Larry Foote clone), but he also isn't a difference maker by any stretch of the imagination.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              #15
                              Re: Anybody else wondering where Lawrence Timmons has been?

                              can the timmons apologists at least admit he has not lived up to his new contract?

                              like others have said, I'm sick of hearing about his potential.

                              the dude plays on roller skates and takes himself out of way too many plays. All he does is chase and gets beaten routinely by other teams TE's.

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