So much for teams struggling after the bye week

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Re: So much for teams struggling after the bye week

You're acting as though your definition of BA is reality. Its nothing more than fan frustration. In spite of, tag-a-long or whatever you want to call him doesn't change how long he has been with this team.

Yup. and the whole time he has been here, this offense has been defined by Ben's ability to "extend the play, and keep it alive", after the original play has broken down, not by Arians brilliant, genius gameplans and playcalling. Ben has been making BA look good for some time now, because no matter what if Ben completes a 50 yd. pass after the play breaks down, it goes down as a 50 yd. completion regardless.

You sound bitter.

Yeah, well having BA as OC will do that.

That first SB victory with Ben wasn't an offensive explosion and we have always relied and benefited from a great D.

Ben was way more instrumental to that first SB win than most give him credit for. He made the big pass to the one yd. line to set up the first td. Hines dropped an easy td pass. And he was one underthrown pass on a flag pattern to Ceddy Ced, from turning that game into a laugher.

Not throwing an INT in the endzone would've helped but that was an Arians designed play. Come to think of it...

Why are you even pointing out how the plays actually unfolded? Clearly all breakdowns and poor executions once a play starts are part of the Arian play design.

Ben was responsible for getting us to the SB but he had a horrible game and trying to give Ben "instrumental" credit for the 1st SB victory is being an apologist of the highest degree.

Ben's ability to extend the play is a good AND bad thing... maybe if Ben actually threw quick passes instead of looking for the home run we would look like we did in the Tennessee game. Ben relies so much on sand lot it makes our O look awful half the time. For every awesome extended play Ben has there are 3 or 4 ugly plays that miss or stall a drive. Now that is what you get with Ben and in crunch time he delivers 99% of the time but when he doesn't that isn't a BA special it's just part of the good and bad you get with a QB like Ben.

I've complained a ton about the actual % of extended plays that work vs sacks, strip sacks, WTF INT's and while we have a ton of great memories of Ben running around creating history the plays that don't work when he does it shouldn't fall at BA's feet but they do.

Ben is responsible for distributing the ball to the open man and we all know he likes to go down field. No one is forcing Ben's hand but fans swear BA has some kind of PS3 controller on Ben.

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Re: So much for teams struggling after the bye week

You're acting as though your definition of BA is reality. Its nothing more than fan frustration. In spite of, tag-a-long or whatever you want to call him doesn't change how long he has been with this team.

Yup. and the whole time he has been here, this offense has been defined by Ben's ability to "extend the play, and keep it alive", after the original play has broken down, not by Arians brilliant, genius gameplans and playcalling. Ben has been making BA look good for some time now, because no matter what if Ben completes a 50 yd. pass after the play breaks down, it goes down as a 50 yd. completion regardless.

You sound bitter.

Yeah, well having BA as OC will do that.

That first SB victory with Ben wasn't an offensive explosion and we have always relied and benefited from a great D.

Ben was way more instrumental to that first SB win than most give him credit for. He made the big pass to the one yd. line to set up the first td. Hines dropped an easy td pass. And he was one underthrown pass on a flag pattern to Ceddy Ced, from turning that game into a laugher.

Not throwing an INT in the endzone would've helped but that was an Arians designed play. Come to think of it...

Why are you even pointing out how the plays actually unfolded? Clearly all breakdowns and poor executions once a play starts are part of the Arian play design.

Ben was responsible for getting us to the SB but he had a horrible game and trying to give Ben "instrumental" credit for the 1st SB victory is being an apologist of the highest degree.

Ben's ability to extend the play is a good AND bad thing... maybe if Ben actually threw quick passes instead of looking for the home run we would look like we did in the Tennessee game. Ben relies so much on sand lot it makes our O look awful half the time. For every awesome extended play Ben has there are 3 or 4 ugly plays that miss or stall a drive. Now that is what you get with Ben and in crunch time he delivers 99% of the time but when he doesn't that isn't a BA special it's just part of the good and bad you get with a QB like Ben.

I've complained a ton about the actual % of extended plays that work vs sacks, strip sacks, WTF INT's and while we have a ton of great memories of Ben running around creating history the plays that don't work when he does it shouldn't fall at BA's feet but they do.

Ben is responsible for distributing the ball to the open man and we all know he likes to go down field. No one is forcing Ben's hand but fans swear BA has some kind of PS3 controller on Ben.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: So much for teams struggling after the bye week

Not throwing an INT in the endzone would've helped but that was an Arians designed play.

Ken Whisenhunt was our O.C. in SBXL against Seattle...Bruce Arians was our WR coach then.