Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

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  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    #16
    Re: Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

    OK, so first off: I said that I don't have the complete picture that the coaches do in deciding who plays, and that I obviously defer to them. That being said (as I said earlier too), 16-1 is not just a coincidence. When the media used to harp on Polamalu's record when playing/when injured for example, they didn't account for the fact that (a prime) Aaron Smith happened to be gone during the same times (i.e. they didn't think that maybe that's an Aaron Smith record too).

    But sticking to the Hampton issue, there really are no glaring extenuating circumtances. It's not easy to explain why we have basically been unbeatable with Hoke in the lineup vs. Hampton, in 17 games over the years. That means something.

    I also stand by the comment about not signing Hampton to this last contract. At the time even, I was VERY reluctant, seeing him as a classic case of diminishing returns for a former star player (i.e. paying for reputation instead of production). To the notion that he had a great year last year and our D had a great year, I think he may have had a solid year considering. I don't think he was a difference-maker that we have seen from him in his prime. And I certainly think we can patchwork a Nose Tackle out of Chris Hoke and a younger guy (McLendon) that could reasonably replicate Hampton. And don't get me wrong: I like(d) Hampton. I thought he was a key player back in the early/mid 2000's.
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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    • birtikidis
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4628

      #17
      Re: Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

      sorry. We have mainly been unbeatable because Ben is in the Lineup. If Maddox starts in '04 we don't go 15-0. we had Hines and Burress in their prime and a qb that other teams couldn't figure out ALL SEASON. If it were only because Hoke was so great, then Ben would have 1 super bowl ring (2004) and a couple more losses in the postseason.

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      • Shoe
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4044

        #18
        Re: Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

        Originally posted by birtikidis
        sorry. We have mainly been unbeatable because Ben is in the Lineup. If Maddox starts in '04 we don't go 15-0. we had Hines and Burress in their prime and a qb that other teams couldn't figure out ALL SEASON. If it were only because Hoke was so great, then Ben would have 1 super bowl ring (2004) and a couple more losses in the postseason.
        You're making a common mistake in taking it to the extreme, in trying to make your point. No one said that Hoke was the sole reason for the 16-1 record.

        But can you explain it by saying it's just a coincidence? I can't.
        I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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        • birtikidis
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4628

          #19
          Re: Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

          Originally posted by Shoe
          Originally posted by birtikidis
          sorry. We have mainly been unbeatable because Ben is in the Lineup. If Maddox starts in '04 we don't go 15-0. we had Hines and Burress in their prime and a qb that other teams couldn't figure out ALL SEASON. If it were only because Hoke was so great, then Ben would have 1 super bowl ring (2004) and a couple more losses in the postseason.
          You're making a common mistake in taking it to the extreme, in trying to make your point. No one said that Hoke was the sole reason for the 16-1 record.

          But can you explain it by saying it's just a coincidence? I can't.
          my point was that we had a couple of huge factors. Not coincidence. We had an all pro at LG a pro bowler at Center. Hines and Burress in the prime of their career. A defense that was peaking as a unit. There were a ton of factors. None of which was coincidence.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35648

            #20
            Re: Good old-fashioned hard work paying off for Hoke

            Chris Hoke

            by CRAIG WOLFLEY on OCTOBER 13, 2011


            One of the guys that punched in a teriffic gameday performance was Steelers NT Chris Hoke. I gabbed with Hokie after the game, and we started talking about the first play from scrimmage, when Chris Johnson laid a fast 21-yard gain on the Steelers.

            “Bro, i was panicking!” Hokie said laughing, because he got cut while trying to get playside. but after that Hokie had no problems busting the backside “A” gap and getting down the line to his run-gap.

            Chris Hoke reminds me of a junkyard dog. You can beat on him, but he comes back stronger and meaner. He never quits. Not to mention he delivers his own beat downs.

            When the O-Line opponent breaks the huddle and looks over, there’s Hokie waiting on them at the line of scrimmage…snarling, salivating with body language that says “Come and get some…” play after play after play.

            Think about it. Hokie is 17-1 as a starter. How many teams can go that deep into nosetackle land and find performance like Chris Hoke delivers whenever he’s called on?

            Pretty special guy, if you ask me…

            [url="http://craigwolfley.com/2011/10/chris-hoke/"]http://craigwolfley.com/2011/10/chris-hoke/[/url]

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