I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

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  • Dee Dub
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    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

    and I gotta tell you....his eyes were never on the the ball. He is fixed on Ngata all the way. As a result he does not take the hand off cleanly. CBS shows a replay from the defensive side of the play and you can clearly see Mendy's eyes fixed on Ngata the whole time. Yes I know he's about to get hit hard by a beast of a man but he has got to stop fumbling the ball just because he gets hit hard. This, like the one on the Super Bowl, is all on him.
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  • Eddie Spaghetti
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    • Jul 2008
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    #2
    Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

    hey chief, the game is pretty fast.

    just because you can slow-mo a DVR doesn't make you a coach.

    take a break.

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    • flippy
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      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #3
      Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

      why are you torturing yourself rewatching this?

      ngata was on mendy before he got the ball and he never got the ball cleanly.
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      • Eddie Spaghetti
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        • Jul 2008
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        #4
        Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

        no flip, deedub has a pause button and the instincts to know what each player is thinking/doing.

        it's like magic.

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        • Dee Dub
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

          Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
          hey chief, the game is pretty fast.

          just because you can slow-mo a DVR doesn't make you a coach.

          take a break.
          Dude whats your problem?

          Take a look at that replay. Watch what Mendenhall does and tell me that is just because of the speed of the game. If you are not looking the ball in on the hand off there's a good chance you will lose it. And that is exactly what happens. He never had his hands on the ball and despite how fast Ngata got in he had time to to secure the ball had he been not looking directly at Ngata.

          But I guess with your theory then NFL coaches shouldn't bother with game film either because it doesn't accurately portray the speed of the game???
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          • Dee Dub
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            • Jan 2010
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            #6
            Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

            Originally posted by flippy
            why are you torturing yourself rewatching this?

            ngata was on mendy before he got the ball and he never got the ball cleanly.
            No he wasnt. Watch the play again. He had been given the ball before Ngata hit him.
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            • Eddie Spaghetti
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              • Jul 2008
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              #7
              Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

              i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

              guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

              you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.

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              • winwithd
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                • Nov 2009
                • 895

                #8
                Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                my first reaction to the replay was that Ben should not have even tried to hand the ball off when the defender was getting there practically the same time as the ball. Did Ben not see Ngata coming? I realize that things happen real fast. I thought it was partly on Ben for not being a good handoff.

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                • Dee Dub
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                  Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                  no flip, deedub has a pause button and the instincts to know what each player is thinking/doing.

                  it's like magic.
                  Wow!!! I wont get into the back and forth with you Eddie. Coaches watch game film all the time to slow it down piece by piece to see what game speed doesnt afford you. And this is where mistakes are found and how corrections are made. Regardless though, if RB's eyes are on the defender about to hit him right before the ball is handed off to him that is a recipe for disaster.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
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                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #10
                    Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                    Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                    i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

                    guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

                    you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.
                    Well, when there are studly male cheerleaders out there tempting you all game long, I can see how eyes could easily be averted.

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                    • Dee Dub
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                      • Jan 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                      i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

                      guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

                      you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.
                      OK..so in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Mendenhall has been hit hard and fumbled.

                      Cool.
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                      • Captain Lemming
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                        • Jun 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                        [quote=Dee Dub]
                        Originally posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":3o5zqhp0
                        i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

                        guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

                        you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.
                        OK..so in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Mendenhall has been hit hard and fumbled.

                        Cool.[/quote:3o5zqhp0]

                        True. But why can't you admit that similarly, in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Ben played poorly too.

                        I agree with you Mendenhall's fault on the fumble.

                        But using your "its everybody's fault but Ben" logic the fumble would be the lines fault for allowing Ngata to penetrate so quickly.
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                        • Dee Dub
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                          #13
                          Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                          [quote=Captain Lemming][quote="Dee Dub":1qn0kzlq]
                          Originally posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":1qn0kzlq
                          i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

                          guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

                          you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.
                          OK..so in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Mendenhall has been hit hard and fumbled.

                          Cool.[/quote:1qn0kzlq]

                          True. But why can't you admit that similarly, in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Ben played poorly too.

                          I agree with you Mendenhall's fault on the fumble.

                          But using your "its everybody's fault but Ben" logic the fumble would be the lines fault for allowing Ngata to penetrate so quickly.[/quote:1qn0kzlq]

                          Maui where did I ever say Ben didnt play well?? Saying that the majority of yesterdays loss falls on the Steelers defense isnt saying that Ben played well.

                          I think maybe you should re-read what I have written??

                          Let me me say it loud and clear Ben did not play well yesterday. Perspective is saying that all his picks occurred after the scores was 21-7.
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                          • Captain Lemming
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                            • Jun 2008
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                            #14
                            Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                            [quote=Dee Dub][quote="Captain Lemming":2afp8z5j][quote="Dee Dub":2afp8z5j]
                            Originally posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":2afp8z5j
                            i'm saying that football plays don't happen in a vacuum.

                            guards get blown up, eyes get averted, footballs hit the ground.

                            you are grabbing at shadows. have fun with that.
                            OK..so in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Mendenhall has been hit hard and fumbled.

                            Cool.[/quote:2afp8z5j]

                            True. But why can't you admit that similarly, in the last two meaningful games the Steelers have played Ben played poorly too.

                            I agree with you Mendenhall's fault on the fumble.

                            But using your "its everybody's fault but Ben" logic the fumble would be the lines fault for allowing Ngata to penetrate so quickly.[/quote:2afp8z5j]

                            Maui where did I ever say Ben didnt play well?? Saying that the majority of yesterdays loss falls on the Steelers defense isnt saying that Ben played well.

                            I think maybe you should re-read what I have written??

                            Let me me say it loud and clear Ben did not play well yesterday. Perspective is saying that all his picks occurred after the scores was 21-7.[/quote:2afp8z5j]

                            Correct, and thank you for clarifying, but true "perspective" knows that Ben's fumble contributed directly to the 21-7.....oh wait, you addressed that fumble. YOU BLAMED IT ON THE LINE!

                            I said the above before EVEN KNOWING that YOU LITERALLY USED the "lines fault for the fumble" logic to defend Ben that I describe above.

                            Originally posted by Dee Dub in reference to Ben's fumble in another thread
                            I dont know how you can call someone careless with the football when they are looking away (down field), for a receiver to get open and then gets hit from the side by one of the games best defensive players. Dont you think the O-line is more responsible for that turn over than Ben is?
                            Nearly all facets of the game contributed to the loss. No need to shield anyone from blame.
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                            • hawaiiansteel
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                              • May 2008
                              • 35649

                              #15
                              Re: I just replayed the Mendenhall fumble....

                              on Mendy's fumble where Ngata blew him up, I'm gonna blame that one on the OL...more specifically, Doug Legursky.

                              seriously, you can't let a beast like Ngata just run into your backfield untouched and not expect bad things to happen.

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