The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

shouldn't that go hand in hand?

you can't have it both ways.

what?

so you're saying that me stating my opinion of us having one of the worst #2 and #3 CB combinations in the NFL is the same as saying that I said the Steelers have the worst pass defense in the league?

really?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

i don't know what you are trying to say, to be honest. you are not making alot of sense.

on one hand you say we have the worst #2 and #3 CB combo in the league and in the next sentence you say they aren't among the worst in the league at stopping the pass. and then you go on to mention post season numbers, which is a small sample size and it means you're playing the best teams in the league.

will you kindly name the other top #2 and #3 combos that are far superior to the ones we have?

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

on one hand you say we have the worst #2 and #3 CB combo in the league and in the next sentence you say they aren't among the worst in the league at stopping the pass.

LeBeau's defensive scheme, the fact that Ike Taylor and Troy Polamalu also roam the secondary and the greatness of our front seven all help to make up for the weaknesses in coverage of BMac and Willie Gay.

why don't you show me where I said we have the NFL's worst pass defense? me saying BMac and Willie Gay are weak links is quite different.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

so are they weak links or the worst in the league? like i said, you want it both ways.

name these other teams that have outstanding CB's at the #2 and #3 positions. i will wait.

face it, our pass defense is not as bad as alot of folks on this board make it out to be. it amuses me how you guys criticize lebeau in one breath and then say the scheme protects the weaknesses of our terrible corners.

don't you see how that is a contradictory statement?

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

and the "if the packer receivers could catch" card is BS.

it's not BS.

the point is their receivers were open all game long, in the future we can't expect professional receivers to drop passes when they are wide open in order to get our defense off the field.

case in point:

I coach a soccer team and last week we won 1-0. we shut the other team out, but only because they missed several close-in point blank shots.

even though we allowed no goals, does our defense have a problem? yes we do, because better teams won't always miss those shots and we must correct the problem of allowing other teams' players to be open in front of our goal.

and if the Steelers allow opposing WRs to continue to be open, that is a problem that is going to cost us some games.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

are you really comparing a 10 year olds soccer game to the pinnacle of professional football???

take a break dude.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

and the "if the packer receivers could catch" card is BS.

it's not BS.

the point is their receivers were open all game long, in the future we can't expect professional receivers to drop passes when they are wide open in order to get our defense off the field.

case in point:

I coach a soccer team and last week we won 1-0. we shut the other team out, but only because they missed several close-in point blank shots.

even though we allowed no goals, does our defense have a problem? yes we do, because better teams won't always miss those shots and we must correct the problem of allowing other teams' players to be open in front of our goal.

and if the Steelers allow opposing WRs to continue to be open, that is a problem that is going to cost us some games.

Well put.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

it amuses me how you guys criticize lebeau in one breath and then say the scheme protects the weaknesses of our terrible corners.

don't you see how that is a contradictory statement?

can you show me where I have criticized LeBeau?

I happen to think LeBeau is a defensive genius who is going to be sorely missed once he retires...maybe only then will he be appreciated as much as he should be.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

all i have to do is read your posts in this thread. nothing about them scream genius.

what about the pro-bowlers everybody else has at #2 and #3?

still waiting.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

still waiting.

and I'm waiting for you to show me where I have criticized LeBeau, I'm pretty sure you have me confused with another poster.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

so you are complimenting lebeau when you charge him with fielding the worst #2 and #3 CB's in the entire league?

wow.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

so you are complimenting lebeau when you charge him with fielding the worst #2 and #3 CB's in the entire league?

wow.

LeBeau coaches the defensive players, he doesn't draft them.

and I didn't say the worst, I said one of the worst. why do you always find yourself twisting other people's words when you are trying to make a point?

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

so now the pass defense is colberts fault?

i'm dizzy.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

i'm dizzy.

yes, it does seem like that.

finally something we can agree on.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

i'm not the one talking in circles.

how bout that list of #2 and #3 corners that are vastly superior to ours?