The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
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    The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

    The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?
    Written on August 30, 2011 by Ed Smallwood
    [url="http://isportsweb.com/2011/08/30/steelers-pass-defense-problem-or-not/"]http://isportsweb.com/2011/08/30/steele ... em-or-not/[/url]



    The conventional wisdom among writers, bloggers, coaches, and pretty much anyone who analyzes the Steelers is that the way to beat them is through the air. This theory emanates from a lot of factors: (1) the complete hopelessness of running the ball against the Steelers, (2) the success that some elite QB’s had against the Steelers in some nationally televised games, including the Super Bowl, and (3) the Steelers’ personnel in the secondary is generally less intimidating than the front seven. During Saturday’s preseason game, the Falcons decided to test this theory by having Matt Ryan throw 42 times in the first half alone. Given that this issue tends to dominate discussions about attacking the Steelers’ defense, I thought I’d analyze its legitimacy as the season approaches.

    THEORY #1: YOU JUST CAN’T RUN THE BALL

    The 2010 Steelers possessed one of the best run defenses in modern NFL history. The Steelers allowed only 62.8 yards per game on the ground, holding opposing carriers to a 3.0 ypc average and didn’t allow a run of longer than 24 yards all season. The dominance of the run defense can best be summarized by analyzing these statistics against the rest of the NFL:

    1. Steelers – 62.8 yards per game

    2. Chicago – 90.1 yards per game

    20. Tennessee – 115.7 yards per game

    The Bears ranked 2nd in the NFL in rushing defense, but were actually closer to finishing 20th than they were to finishing 1st. Simply, running the football against the Steelers did not work, not even a little. As such, teams generally abandoned the run early and often against the Steelers, attempting only 333 rushes for the season, the fewest in the NFL by a significant margin (Atlanta faced the second fewest rushing plays at 366).

    As a result of the inability to run the ball and frequently being behind, opposing offenses aired it out against the Steelers. Opposing teams attempted 593 passes, the 4th highest total in the league, in addition to being sacked 48 times, the most in the NFL. Despite facing such a prodigious amount of passes, the Steelers’ pass defense posted good-to-excellent numbers in most categories:

    214 ypg allowed - 12th in the NFL
    15 pass TD allowed – 3rd
    6.3 ypa allowed - 1st
    73.1 OPP QB rating – 2nd

    For those of you who enjoy the sabermetric analysis of football, the folks at Football Outsiders rank the 2010 Steelers as having the 2nd best pass defense using their intricate formula for determining their ratings. No one told me there’d be math when I began writing this column, so you can read more here:

    Looking at all of these numbers, the conventional wisdom that the Steelers are vulnerable to the pass seems erroneous. So the question becomes from where does this theory come?

    THEORY #2: ELITE QB’S SHRED THE STEELERS’ DEFENSE

    As discussed above, the Steelers’ pass defense’s total numbers were very good across the board. There were, however, three very notable exceptions to this rule, and these exceptions certainly create the idea that an elite QB can gash the Steelers:

    On Halloween night in New Orleans, Drew Brees was 34/44 for 305 yards and 2 TD’s, completing 20/22 passes in the second half of the game. Brees only averaged 6.9 yards per attempt (below the NFL average of 7.1 yards per attempt), but his QB rating was 101.0 for the game and the Steelers simply couldn’t get off the field in the second half, with the Saints’ 4 possessions ending in 2 TD’s, a FG, and a fumble deep in Pittsburgh territory.
    Two weeks later on another Sunday Night Game, Tom Brady, who has been one QB that has routinely dismantled the Steelers over the years, absolutely destroyed the Steelers’ defense. Brady’s final numbers of 30/43 for 350 yards and 3 TD’s with a passer rating of 117.4 actually seem to understate how badly he shredded the Steelers’ secondary.
    Finally, in Super Bowl XLV, Aaron Rodgers had his way with the Steelers’ secondary most of the night, going 24/39 for 304 yards and 3 TD’s with no picks and a passer rating of 111.5.

    Three big games on big stages against elite QB’s, and three very bad defensive performances against the pass. It can be further argued that the Steelers faced a lot of average-to-bad QB’s during the 2010 season, with the other 16 games not described above being started by: Joe Flacco (3 times), Mark Sanchez (2), Colt McCoy (2), Carson Palmer (2), Jimmy Claussen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Ryan, Chad Henne, Vince Young, Josh Freeman, and Jason Campbell. Ryan is generally considered a top 10 QB in the NFL, and some would argue that Flacco is in the top 10 or close thereto, but the Steelers did not face a lot of elite QB play in 2010.

    THEORY #3: LACK OF INVESTMENT IN THE SECONDARY

    Setting Troy Polamalu aside, here is how the other members of the 2010 Steelers’ secondary were obtained:

    S Ryan Clark – signed as a free agent from Washington – undrafted out of college
    S Ryan Mundy – 2008 6th round draft choice
    S Will Allen – signed as free agent from Tampa Bay – originally a 2004 4th round draft choice
    CB Ike Taylor – 2003 4th round draft choice
    CB Bryant McFadden – re-acquired in trade from Arizona for 5th round pick – originally a 2005 2nd round draft choice
    CB William Gay – 2007 5th round draft choice
    CB Anthony Madison – signed as undrafted free agent
    CB Keenan Lewis – 2009 3rd round draft choice
    CB Crezdon Butler – 2010 5th round draft choice

    Thus, of the 9 defensive backs that played in the Super Bowl for the Steelers (Butler was inactive), only Polamalu, Lewis, and McFadden were drafted in the first three rounds of the NFL draft, and the last defensive back drafted in the first two rounds of the draft was McFadden back in 2005. No team knows better than the Steelers that good players can be found as undrafted free agents (James Harrison, Willie Parker, Doug Legursky, Ramon Foster, Darnell Stapleton, and Ryan Clark have all been starters on Steelers’ Super Bowl teams despite being undrafted out of college), but the lack of investment in top end talent in the secondary may lead to the impression of vulnerability.

    WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN 2011

    The Steelers return 8 of the 9 defensive backs that played in Super Bowl XLV (Anthony Madison signed with Detroit over the offseason), and also return Butler. The club also drafted CB Curtis Brown in the 3rd round and CB Cortez Allen in the 4th round of the 2011 draft. The Steelers have been absolutely riddled with injuries during the preseason however, with Taylor playing in only one preseason game and with McFadden and Cortez Allen appearing in none. The club has high hopes for Curtis Brown, but he simply hasn’t had enough reps to overcome the lack of OTA’s and minicamps in order to crack the rotation at CB to start the season. Keenan Lewis has been impressive in camp and in the preseason play he has seen, but he went down with a minor knee injury early in the Atlanta game. The Steelers are likely to go into the season with the same top 6 DB’s as in 2010 – Taylor and McFadden at starting CB, Polamalu and Clark at S, Gay as the nickel back and Mundy as the 6th DB. Lewis will either displace McFadden as the starter or be the 4th DB, as the Steelers like Gay in the slot.

    Looking at all of this in its entirety, the truth is probably (as usual) somewhere in the middle. The Steelers’ pass defense is definitely more vulnerable than their run defense, and elite QB’s will likely continue to have success against the Steelers. There are, however, only a few QB’s good enough to consistently exploit the Steelers’ secondary and, as discussed above, average and merely good QB’s don’t generally get it done.

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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    #2
    Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

    I've got an easy answer for this question:

    yes, it definitely is and is going to be in many games this season.

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      #3
      Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

      I have an easier answer:

      No.
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

        How much pressure did we get on Brees, Brady, and Rogers?

        That's the key to this answer.
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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #5
          Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

          Not a problem at all... but it's frustrating to watch at times. If the O goes 3 and out it really makes the pass D look bad.

          214 ypg allowed - 12th in the NFL
          15 pass TD allowed – 3rd
          6.3 ypa allowed - 1st
          73.1 OPP QB rating – 2nd

          How can anyone look at those stats and say our pass D is a problem?

          How dare the other team make plays and occasionally beat us?
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

            Originally posted by flippy
            How much pressure did we get on Brees, Brady, and Rogers?

            That's the key to this answer.
            Brees.. adequate pressure, sack fumble, one INT I believe and Jimmy Hate was flagged.

            Brady... ZERO!!!

            Rogers... adequate pressure, Rogers is a mobile QB, made a few clutch passes but was still sacked and we got the ball back with enough time to score.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Djfan
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 5184

              #7
              Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Rogers... adequate pressure, Rogers is a mobile QB, made a few clutch passes but was still sacked and we got the ball back with enough time to score.
              Even with the turn over show we put on we were well in that game. Amazing really.

              Sucks, actually.
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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35649

                #8
                Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                Originally posted by Slapstick
                I have an easier answer:

                No.

                I hope you're right...

                now that every team in the NFL knows how to attack us by spreading us out I guess we'll soon see if our pass defense can play better than they did in the Super Bowl.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #9
                  Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  I have an easier answer:

                  No.

                  I hope you're right...

                  now that every team in the NFL knows how to attack us by spreading us out I guess we'll soon see if our pass defense can play better than they did in the Super Bowl.
                  I'm very afraid of what we will see
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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                    Matt Ryan may not be on of the top five QBs, but I think that he's in the top ten...I think he's a better QB than Joe Flacco, for example...

                    He threw the ball 40+ times in one half of football...the Falcons were still losing 24-16 at the half...

                    Could the Steelers have prevented more 3rd down conversions? Sure...

                    But, a 52% completion rate, 5.2 Yards per Attempt and a 1 to 1 TD/INT ratio isn't going to beat the Steelers...

                    Back in 2003, Steve McNair went 15 of 16 for 161 yards against the Steelers D with 3 TDs...that is a much more effective performance than what Ryan could muster...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      Matt Ryan may not be on of the top five QBs, but I think that he's in the top ten...I think he's a better QB than Joe Flacco, for example...

                      He threw the ball 40+ times in one half of football...the Falcons were still losing 24-16 at the half...

                      giving up 16 points in one half extrapolates out to 32 points a game, not good.

                      and in our first pre-season game we went up against Rex Grossman, who probably ranks in the bottom ten of all NFL starting QBs.

                      his stats: 19/26 for 207 yards with 1 TD, no Ints and a 109.0 passer rating.

                      also not good...

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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        #12
                        Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                        Again, that was the first preseason game...

                        The third preseason game is the dress rehearsal where all the game planning takes place...if any preseason game can be indicative of what the regular season holds, it is the third...

                        The first preseason game isn't any more relevant than the last...

                        Also, the 24 points that the Steelers scored extrapolates to 48 points...

                        Extrapolating the Falcons' score also means that Matt Ryan would have thrown more than 80 passes in that game, a number which far exceeds the record of 70 set by Drew Bledsoe back in 1994...Bledsoe's game was an OT game...
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #13
                          Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Also, the 24 points that the Steelers scored extrapolates to 48 points...

                          true, but this thread is not asking about our offense but rather whether our pass defense is a problem or not.

                          I can appreciate the points you make but on the biggest stage, in the biggest game of the year against the Packers in the Super Bowl our pass defense was absolutely terrible. if it weren't for the numerous drops by the Packers' receivers Aaron Rodgers' stats would have been much better than the 24 of 39 passes for 304 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions he put up against us.

                          after that game I surely thought that Tomlin had clearly seen enough and that an upgrade over BMac and/or Willie Gay would be brought in from the outside. instead, we are going into this upcoming season with essentially the same DBs we had last year.

                          Albert Einstein's definition of insanity:

                          "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23824

                            #14
                            Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                            Originally posted by Slapstick
                            Again, that was the first preseason game...

                            The third preseason game is the dress rehearsal where all the game planning takes place...if any preseason game can be indicative of what the regular season holds, it is the third...

                            The first preseason game isn't any more relevant than the last...

                            Also, the 24 points that the Steelers scored extrapolates to 48 points...

                            Extrapolating the Falcons' score also means that Matt Ryan would have thrown more than 80 passes in that game, a number which far exceeds the record of 70 set by Drew Bledsoe back in 1994...Bledsoe's game was an OT game...
                            Which I guess means the offense is going to have to carry the defense.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: The Steelers’ pass defense: a problem or not?

                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Matt Ryan may not be on of the top five QBs, but I think that he's in the top ten...I think he's a better QB than Joe Flacco, for example...

                              He threw the ball 40+ times in one half of football...the Falcons were still losing 24-16 at the half...

                              giving up 16 points in one half extrapolates out to 32 points a game, not good.

                              and in our first pre-season game we went up against Rex Grossman, who probably ranks in the bottom ten of all NFL starting QBs.

                              his stats: 19/26 for 207 yards with 1 TD, no Ints and a 109.0 passer rating.

                              also not good...
                              We were also gouged by Washington on the ground in that game. It was obvious early on that we didn't put together any kind of game plan. Maybe Washington is better this year but I wouldn't put too much stock into any preseason game.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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