See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

[feltdizz]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

QB's licked their lips last year with Ike in our secondary. Maybe we will suffer like we did when Faneca left. We suffered all the way to a SB ring.
Also remember our pass D was torched in the second half of the SB in 2008, torched in the 4th qtr in 2009 and torched by the Pats, Saints and Packers in the last SB... with Ike.

It would be nice if we kept Ike but if he leaves it isn't the end of the world. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how all is lost without him. He will be replaced just like the others before him. I can't blame himn for getting obe last check

you make it sound like all the qb's in the league are as good as tom brady, drew brees and aaron rogers.
I don't think Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, or the other 12 teams qb's we played were licking their lips. smart qb's knew to stay away from ike and pick on mcfadden. just imagine, we may confuse qb's around the league because they won't be able to decide who to pick on, gay or bmac.

hopefully the confusion will be enough to sack the QB...

Those other QB's completed passes on Ike as well. The fear of losing Ike has turned him into a legend.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

well, considering the last time we had to cb's that sucked we couldn't beat our way out of a paper bag makes me fear losing him.

[feltdizz]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.

You mean the same teams that beat us last year with Ike in our secondary? Don't get me wrong I hope we are able to sign Ike, I just think the drop off in play will be greater with out him

Ike isn't worth the money he is after.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

I'd like to reserve my judgement on that until after they actually make an offer and they start to negotiate.

[MadSteel]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

You know what would be great? If Ike decided to take the money elsewhere and we in turn signed Nnamdi Asomugha to a huge contract. I know Ike fits our system way better, but to just see his face would be priceless.

However, so far all we have is talk. Ike may be back in black.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

I wouldn't want Nnamdi Asomugha. If Ike leaves, I'd rather we dumped Gay and signed carlos rogers and another guy like josh wilson or the dude from cincin****ty.

[MadSteel]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.

You mean just like last year....The only time we weren't shredded was when Harrison wasnt being held or Woodley bull rushed some RT.

We will be just fine if Ike leaves. Crezdon Butler is a magician at CB, just wait and see. This kid was amazing his junior year at Clemson and had he declared for the draft after his junior season he would have been a 1st rd pick. He didnt have any stats to speak of his senior season because opposing teams only threw the ball his way 10 times over the course of the whole season! Butler, get used to it.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

we got shredded all last year? I think you were watching old VHS tapes of charred and washington.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.

You mean just like last year....The only time we weren't shredded was when Harrison wasnt being held or Woodley bull rushed some RT.

We will be just fine if Ike leaves. Crezdon Butler is a magician at CB, just wait and see. This kid was amazing his junior year at Clemson and had he declared for the draft after his junior season he would have been a 1st rd pick. He didnt have any stats to speak of his senior season because opposing teams only threw the ball his way 10 times over the course of the whole season! Butler, get used to it.

btw what he did in college is meaningless. BMac didn't allow a touchdown pass as a starter at FSU. look at him now.

[MadSteel]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.

You mean just like last year....The only time we weren't shredded was when Harrison wasnt being held or Woodley bull rushed some RT.

We will be just fine if Ike leaves. Crezdon Butler is a magician at CB, just wait and see. This kid was amazing his junior year at Clemson and had he declared for the draft after his junior season he would have been a 1st rd pick. He didnt have any stats to speak of his senior season because opposing teams only threw the ball his way 10 times over the course of the whole season! Butler, get used to it.

btw what he did in college is meaningless. BMac didn't allow a touchdown pass as a starter at FSU. look at him now.

Maybe so, but I watched both in college and Butler is way more athletic then BMac and BMac had a better supporting cast. He also played FS with FSU. I'm telling you, the kid is going to be very good.

[birtikidis]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

I'm not saying he won't be good. In fact, I was saying all offseason before the draft that we weren't as hard up for corners as everyone was making it out to be mainly because of him. I'm just trying to be realistic.

[MadSteel]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

I understand, but I am not afraid one bit to let Ike walk if he demands too much money.

[papillon]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

McFadden is nowhere near as bad as a lot make him out to be.

Scheme is responsible for many of the Steelers pass defense woes. And even with nearly-elite Ike, we still get passed on easily- yes, even by Joe Flacco.

The importance of Ike has been overblown. He's a good to very good player, but far from irreplacable.

And while we all bemoan possibly losing him in FA- there's nothing stopping the Steelers from grabbing a FA CB of their own.

Chadman, are you saying that McFadden is a better quarterback than D1ck Lebeau is as the defensive coordinator? Not even Ovi believes that.

Pappy

[fordfixer]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.

You mean the same teams that beat us last year with Ike in our secondary? Don't get me wrong I hope we are able to sign Ike, I just think the drop off in play will be greater with out him

Ike isn't worth the money he is after.

I knew someone would agree with me someday

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

whens the last time the FO went out and signed a big money UFA?? hartings 10 years ago?

not really their style to bring in someone like that. they arent going to get in a bidding war for other top CB free agents. i hope im wrong cause if they dont, i think we're throwing away a possible championship season.

dont know how long our window stays open with some of the defensive stars aging