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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

    See You Ike: Why There Will Be No Tears Shed When the Pittsburgh Steelers Fail to Sign Ike Taylor

    AUTHOR: Craig



    From m.browsebiography.com

    I guess ‘fail’ is too strong a word of negative connotations towards the Steelers to use when Ike Taylor finally signs with another NFL team this year. I would describe it more as a ‘choice.’ There’s been a strong outcry from many in the media and across the Nation that the Steelers defense is scuuuhhhrewwwd if Taylor discontinues being a part of this team. But if Taylor really wants to stay, he’ll stay won’t he?

    With free agency on the horizon now that the lockout appears to be nearing its long and drawn out end, Taylor is beginning to voice his feelings on the matter. In an article on NBC Sports Pro Football Talk Mike Florio reports that Ike is hinting towards his indifference on continuing and potentially finishing his career in Pittsburgh.

    I see myself being anywhere I need to be. Wherever you put me, I’m going to make home….I just leave it up to my agent and Pittsburgh.When it comes down to getting serious, I’m sure my agent is going to call me. Other than that, he’ll let me know when the time is right. ~ Ike Taylor

    See, its words like those that do not instill any kind of confidence that Face Me will be lining up for the Steelers next season. Taylor is already envisioning himself as what it would be like to play for another team in another city. And even though the Steelers ‘say’ they would love to have Taylor returning, they have a consistent track record with how they deal with free agents – avoid bidding wars.

    Taylor’s words are either going to fall on deaf ears at the front office or they are only stacking a case against the Steelers making an offer Taylor would even consider. I don’t believe the FO feels threatened by Taylor’s outward position of ‘I’m going to test the market for my worth.’ His attitude is poor and is not making the FO’s heart swoon during this offseason.

    The cornerback said in an interview on Jim Rome is Burning back in May:

    “I need that market value. I work so hard. I’ve been through so much, I feel so unappreciated, feel so underrated at my position, I feel like it’s my time to get my worth, in whatever city that’s in.”

    Unappreciated? By whom? Underrated? Ike, you may be pretty good, but you don’t instill fear in receivers or offensive coordinators around the league. You are getting paid as ‘pretty darn good.’ Just because you are the best on a team, does not mean you are the best in the league. You got paid $22.5 million over 5 years with a $6.4 million signing bonus – that same season you were benched. Benched. What super kick ass corner gets benched in their career? Sounds like you’ve had your worth over those 5 years. I like Ike – he IS very good and plays hard. And, he cares deeply about winning the small battles on the field as much as the bigger battle to get to the Super Bowl.

    Testing the market will probably work out well for him, but mainly because there is such a need at corner this year by many teams.

    Let’s look back at a guy who did a hometown discount and it worked well for him – Jerome Bettis. Here is a player that was loved by Steelers Nation and admired by his teammates and coaches. Bettis was a hard worker, a damn good player and well liked.

    And, he knew a championship team when he saw one. Bettis realized that the Steelers gave him the best chance to win that elusive Super Bowl before he retired. And so, he took less money.

    Ike already has two Super Bowl rings with the team. He has that claim. He’s taken less money before, and now that he’s earned those championships, he wants the paycheck to go along with the bling. Even though the Steelers probably have one of the better chances of making it back over the next several years, he still wants the money instead.

    What he doesn’t realize is that he’s made his worth here in Pittsburgh – 8 seasons with the Steelers, numerous AFC championships and two Super Bowl victories. Taylor is admired by his teammates and adored by many in The Nation. In fact, he’s so admired that his free agency has created quite a fuss. What Taylor fails to realize is that he could end his career as a Steeler and be beloved by Steelers Nation forever and always.

    Taylor reminds me of someone from back in 2007. This person said at one point:

    I’ve done my piece. I’ve done my time. I’ve done everything I can for this organization. I’ve lived and breathed Steeler football for nine years and gave them everything I’ve had and helped them win a Super Bowl. In my mind, I’ve earned the right to be treated fairly.

    Who said that??? Alan Faneca. Faneca did not make nice with the FO several times during that offseason. He wanted the money, but didn’t get the offer. So, he signed with the Jets and got his huge contract. He lasted two more years in the NFL. Being cut by the Jets, then signing with the Cardinals. He also missed out on another Steeler Super Bowl ring. When he retired, many said that they wished he kept a better attitude during that offseason and finished his career as a Steeler. Many say good riddance – hmmm, not so admired forever and always…

    Things don’t look well for Ike Taylor and his options for returning to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I will be very surprised if he returns. I think the Steelers are emotionally prepared for that. Fans should do the same. No tears. For his sake, I hope that Face Me Ike doesn’t end up like former teammate Faneca. Then again, when you allow your loyalties to hit the free market over being a Pittsburgh Steeler, deep down I hope that he signs with the Raiders…

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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

    If Taylor chases the money and leaves so be it, but don't think for a second that we won't have serious issues in our secondary. We have no one on our roster capable of playing at the level he does at CB. Our young players aren't the solution either because they won't be allowed to play. And the wishful thinking for a free agent...forget it. Any FA with decent skills is going to demand at least as much as Taylor.

    The result of Taylor leaving will be two, not one, CB of McFadden or Gay's skills starting for us. Hear that sound? It's the QBs around the league licking their lips in anticipation of picking our secondary apart.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #3
      Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

      QB's licked their lips last year with Ike in our secondary. Maybe we will suffer like we did when Faneca left. We suffered all the way to a SB ring.
      Also remember our pass D was torched in the second half of the SB in 2008, torched in the 4th qtr in 2009 and torched by the Pats, Saints and Packers in the last SB... with Ike.

      It would be nice if we kept Ike but if he leaves it isn't the end of the world. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how all is lost without him. He will be replaced just like the others before him. I can't blame himn for getting obe last check
      Steelers 27
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      • birtikidis
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4628

        #4
        Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

        Originally posted by feltdizz
        QB's licked their lips last year with Ike in our secondary. Maybe we will suffer like we did when Faneca left. We suffered all the way to a SB ring.
        Also remember our pass D was torched in the second half of the SB in 2008, torched in the 4th qtr in 2009 and torched by the Pats, Saints and Packers in the last SB... with Ike.

        It would be nice if we kept Ike but if he leaves it isn't the end of the world. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how all is lost without him. He will be replaced just like the others before him. I can't blame himn for getting obe last check
        you make it sound like all the qb's in the league are as good as tom brady, drew brees and aaron rogers.
        I don't think Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, or the other 12 teams qb's we played were licking their lips. smart qb's knew to stay away from ike and pick on mcfadden. just imagine, we may confuse qb's around the league because they won't be able to decide who to pick on, gay or bmac.

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 35649

          #5
          Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

          Originally posted by birtikidis
          just imagine, we may confuse qb's around the league because they won't be able to decide who to pick on, gay or bmac.
          I'll have to start doing tequila shots during games if those two are our starting CBs this season.

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          • Chadman
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6537

            #6
            Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

            McFadden is nowhere near as bad as a lot make him out to be.

            Scheme is responsible for many of the Steelers pass defense woes. And even with nearly-elite Ike, we still get passed on easily- yes, even by Joe Flacco.

            The importance of Ike has been overblown. He's a good to very good player, but far from irreplacable.

            And while we all bemoan possibly losing him in FA- there's nothing stopping the Steelers from grabbing a FA CB of their own.
            The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

            Light up the darkness.

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #7
              Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

              Originally posted by Chadman
              McFadden is nowhere near as bad as a lot make him out to be.

              Scheme is responsible for many of the Steelers pass defense woes. And even with nearly-elite Ike, we still get passed on easily- yes, even by Joe Flacco.

              The importance of Ike has been overblown. He's a good to very good player, but far from irreplacable.

              And while we all bemoan possibly losing him in FA- there's nothing stopping the Steelers from grabbing a FA CB of their own.
              Chadmn, I gotta disagree man. When teams wanted to throw the ball they didn't throw it on Ike, they threw it on Bmac.. I'm not saying he's terrible. He's a decent #2, I'd just hate see him get thrust into the #1 role and Gay as the #2. Especially with how often Bmac gets some small injury which ends up being his excuse for why he got beat during the course of a game. Yea we could go sign someone, but if Ike leaves I don't think we will. Which scares me.

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              • pittpete
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #8
                Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3693/player?r=1"]http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3693/player?r=1[/url]

                theres our new younger CB
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                • phillyesq
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 7568

                  #9
                  Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                  First, I think it makes sense for Ike to say that he is ready to move on. After all, this is a business, and if he comes out and says he's willing to take a hometown discount, he's going to hurt his negotiating power, both with the Steelers and with other teams.

                  Second, while Ike doesn't have huge pick numbers, he's very solid. I think he is easily the best CB in Pittsburgh since Rod Woodson.

                  Finally, if Ike leaves, there are serious depth issues. Ike leaving will likely mean that Gay gets resigned. Gay and BMac starting leaves Anthony Madison as the 3rd CB, with two rookies and Keenan Lewis, who ended up behind Madison last year, battling it out to replace Madison. Ike leaving would leave us with a putrid group, unless rookies, without the benefit of OTAs and possibly training camp, immediately step up.

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #10
                    Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                    Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

                    Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #11
                      Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                      Originally posted by phillyesq
                      First, I think it makes sense for Ike to say that he is ready to move on. After all, this is a business, and if he comes out and says he's willing to take a hometown discount, he's going to hurt his negotiating power, both with the Steelers and with other teams.

                      Second, while Ike doesn't have huge pick numbers, he's very solid. I think he is easily the best CB in Pittsburgh since Rod Woodson.

                      Finally, if Ike leaves, there are serious depth issues. Ike leaving will likely mean that Gay gets resigned. Gay and BMac starting leaves Anthony Madison as the 3rd CB, with two rookies and Keenan Lewis, who ended up behind Madison last year, battling it out to replace Madison. Ike leaving would leave us with a putrid group, unless rookies, without the benefit of OTAs and possibly training camp, immediately step up.

                      History dictates future behavior. The FAs who mouthed off about wanting to "get paid", "get their respect" etc are almost always shown the door by the Steelers organization. If this came from his agent, it's because he would rather Ike hit the open market.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • fordfixer
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 10921

                        #12
                        Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        Can you imagine a secondary where McFadden is by far your best DB? While I agree with Chadman, McFadden isn't as bad as advertised, he isn't good. He is serviceable. And the talent after McFadden drops off significantly. Those who believe we will be just fine without Ike are deceiving themselves. While we will be competitive, we won't beat the better passing teams, and those are the ones blocking the road to the SB. We needed to get better in our secondary, not worse.

                        Do I believe we will sign Ike? No. But, I just might shed some tears over it. And I assume the rest of the Steeler Nation will join me after they watch our secondary get shredded game after game.
                        You mean the same teams that beat us last year with Ike in our secondary? Don't get me wrong I hope we are able to sign Ike, I just think the drop off in play will be greater with out him

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                        • birtikidis
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4628

                          #13
                          Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                          Its amazing how people expect our players to never get beat or have a bad game. I also think it's ridiculous when only the defense gets blamed for losses. Yea we lost to the packers, but to be honest, the three turnovers were by far the biggest reason we lost that game. BY FAR. and y'all who don't care if Ike leaves, who keep saying "well those passign teams beat us with ike... blah blah blah" think about the players who were getting lit up by those teams. It wasn't Ike. NE didn't throw a bunch of td's on Ike, they threw them on Gay. Aaron Rogers didn't complete td passes against Ike, they were against troy and bmac. I could go on and on.

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                          • grotonsteel
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 2810

                            #14
                            Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                            Originally posted by pittpete
                            http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3693/player?r=1

                            theres our new younger CB

                            I will do back flips if we sign Jonathan Joseph. I think he will be an instant upgrade over Ike Taylor. Plus he is young.

                            Another CB to look for is Richard marshall from Panthers. I think he has huge upside.

                            What about Carlos Rogers from redSkins?? He is another Ike clone.
                            Steelers Draft 2015
                            Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                            Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                            Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                            Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                            Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                            Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                            Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #15
                              Re: See You Ike: No Tears Shed When You Leave

                              Richard Marshall or Josh Wilson...

                              Or both...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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