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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35649

    BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Draft

    Best Player Available Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of 2011 Draft


    The days of March are clicking off the calender and there are only 44 days now until draft day. The Pro Days are also winding down and the Steelers will soon be entertaining draft prospect visitors down at the South Side later this month and into April. In my recent post about 1st round tackles drafted from 1995-2010 I showed how just because you might need a tackle while drafting late in the first round, it might very well not be the best course of action.

    Without a doubt, we can pretty well safely assume the Steelers will at least spend a pick on both on an offensive lineman and a corner somewhere in the upcoming draft, but to lock them into definitely drafting either position in the 1st round is pretty foolish. When you pick late in drafts, you have to let the draft come to you. The Steelers are notorious for neglecting a perceived need by us, the fans, and we have often seen instances where it appears they have taken what they considered the best player on the board as it relates to scheme and overall need.

    Let's look at the 2009 draft for example. The Ziggy Hood pick surprised a big majority of Steeler Nation, me included. Now we knew a quarterback, running back and tight end would not likely be their number one pick and you could possibly even throw in the linebacking position as well when you look at the state of the team at that time. Most of Steeler Nation was clamoring for an offensive lineman and cornerback in the first round of that draft. What a surprise. They did however draft two linemen and two corners in that draft.

    Was defensive end a need in that draft? Somewhat, sure. The Steelers certainly needed some depth at the position behind Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel. When you look back at that draft board and who was selected, Hood was the 2nd true defensive end off the board after Tyson Jackson was picked 3rd overall by the Chiefs. Now some might argue about Aaron Maybin, Brian Orakpo and Robert Ayers, but these players were all transformed into outside linebacker types by the teams that drafted them. Peria Jerry was projected 3-technique guy as well. Hood by most accounts was primed for being a 5-technique guy and a perfect fit for the Steelers 3-4 defense. Considering the defensive scheme and the somewhat need the Steelers had, Hood was easily the best player available on the board for the Steelers with that pick.

    Too often as fans we get caught up looking at what we deem are the biggest needs for the team and instantly try to correlate that with the mock drafts and player rankings. Too many times we overlook the big picture as well of what player fits what scheme. This is done quite a bit with defensive players more than offensive players, but offensive line blocking schemes and types of offenses certainly play a role as well in matching best fits.

    Let's go back to just last year. The Steelers probably had a little easier time in narrowing down there first round big board as they were picking 18th overall. Guess who the first center/guard type that was that drafted in 2010? Yep, Maurkice Pouncey. Now the Steelers had likely envisioned him as a guard first with the idea of eventually moving him to center. We all know how that ended up. They got a guy who could play both positions and play them well. Can you say best player off the board that also met a need? Jackpot. Would the Steelers had the success they had in 2010 with Justin Hartwig playing center? Probably not and you probably agree.

    As I eluded to in my underclassman cornerbacks post, that is a mighty risky thing to do based off history. I'll admit that Brandon Harris sure looks impressive in not only his combine work, but also his play on the field with Miami. He might even climb further up the draft board come April. If you look at the top 5 tackles and cornerbacks this year with perceived first round grades, the top 3 if not 4 might very well be off the board by the time the Steelers pick if they do not trade up. Would the Steelers draft the 5th best tackle or 5th best cornerback on the board if that were the case? Are the Steelers tackle and cornerback positions such a dire need that you just take the best of the rest in round 1? I think the answer is no. It is also highly unlikely that a first round tackle or corner could come in and contribute instantly even if that were the case. Especially the corner position in a D!ck LeBeau defense.

    Now just because best player available is the talk here does not mean that the Steelers should draft running back Mikel LeShoure, who could still be on the board when the Steelers pick. He also is considered the 2nd rated running back in this years draft. It also does not mean that they should draft Jake Locker should he fall. There is a place where BPA (best player available) meets a team need, especially when a first round pick is concerned. I expect the Steelers to once again to use that strategy unless they trade up. No reason to think otherwise.

    So what position would BPA meet some need with the Steelers at 31? Guard perhaps? Although old for a rookie, Danny Watkins could likely be had there at 31. By many accounts he is the 2nd best interior lineman in the draft. He could likely even contribute in his rookie season at right guard at some point. What about linebacker Martez Wilson? His skill set is pretty amazing and he could cut his teeth on special teams early on. There is a chance he could be on the board at 31 as well. Those are just two off the cuff examples.

    As you move forward now with your draft expectations, I think you will see that the Steelers certainly could disappoint those that have tackle and corner as an automatic position the Steelers will draft in the 1st round. Put your Kevin Colbert hat on for a few days and measure the other team needs against best player available method along with the skill set of the players in relation to the Steelers offensive and defensive schemes. You will likely see the bigger picture and method of the Steelers draft madness as it relates to the best player available and overall team need.

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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

    BPA could be a TE. Not sure we would take him but by the time we get to #31 there is a high probability we are looking at Kyle Rudolph or Rahim Moore.

    Then again I guess it depends on the definition of BPA. Highest ranked at a position or best athlete regardless of position.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • flippy
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 17088

      #3
      Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

      Young, athletic, raw talent from a big program. I feel Tomlin/Colbert will be bold with their pick and swing for the fences to make the team better in round 1.

      I have a feeling there's gonna be plenty of WTFs?
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      • calmkiller
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1819

        #4
        Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

        Get outta here with your Non Pouncey talk. Your being rational and I DON'T LIKE IT.
        LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
        Here We Go Steelers!
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        • Dee Dub
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2010
          • 4652

          #5
          Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          BPA could be a TE. Not sure we would take him but by the time we get to #31 there is a high probability we are looking at Kyle Rudolph or Rahim Moore.

          Then again I guess it depends on the definition of BPA. Highest ranked at a position or best athlete regardless of position.
          Uhhhhhhhhhhh….yeah….that’s what I’m talkin’ about. That has been my whole reasoning behind the drafting of Rahim Moore. Fills a need and will probably be BPA at 31.
          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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          • Dee Dub
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2010
            • 4652

            #6
            Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

            Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

            Taylor--Hampton--Hood
            Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

            1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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            • papillon
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              #7
              Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

              Taylor--Hampton--Hood
              A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

              Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

              Pappy
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              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #8
                Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                As talented as Taylor is, his charcter might be enough to hold him out of consideration in the 1st.

                Corey Luiget however...
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                Light up the darkness.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23824

                  #9
                  Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                  Originally posted by papillon
                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

                  Taylor--Hampton--Hood
                  A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

                  Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

                  Pappy
                  The lack of appreciation for Kiesel continues. He is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL. He gets better pressure on the QB than A. Smith.

                  Pappy is right...Kiesel will be in the starting line up for the next couple of years.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • grotonsteel
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2810

                    #10
                    Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    Originally posted by Dee Dub
                    Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

                    Taylor--Hampton--Hood
                    A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

                    Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

                    Pappy
                    The lack of appreciation for Kiesel continues. He is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL. He gets better pressure on the QB than A. Smith.

                    Pappy is right...Kiesel will be in the starting line up for the next couple of years.

                    I thought Kiesel the Diesel was the Steelers best D-lineman last season.
                    Steelers Draft 2015
                    Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                    Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                    Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                    Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                    Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                    Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                    Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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                    • Dee Dub
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4652

                      #11
                      Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      Originally posted by papillon
                      Originally posted by Dee Dub
                      Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

                      Taylor--Hampton--Hood
                      A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

                      Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

                      Pappy
                      The lack of appreciation for Kiesel continues. He is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL. He gets better pressure on the QB than A. Smith.

                      Pappy is right...Kiesel will be in the starting line up for the next couple of years.
                      No disrespect to Keisel but see it for what it really is. He only played in 11 games last year. Had 33 tackles and 3 sacks. As much as we appreciate him…to be honest that is pedestrian at best. Me personally…I sure would want better if there is a chance to get better. But that’s just me.
                      Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                      1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                      • papillon
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 11340

                        #12
                        Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                        [quote=Dee Dub]
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Originally posted by "Dee Dub":3377avic
                        Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

                        Taylor--Hampton--Hood
                        A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

                        Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

                        Pappy
                        The lack of appreciation for Kiesel continues. He is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL. He gets better pressure on the QB than A. Smith.

                        Pappy is right...Kiesel will be in the starting line up for the next couple of years.
                        No disrespect to Keisel but see it for what it really is. He only played in 11 games last year. Had 33 tackles and 3 sacks. As much as we appreciate him…to be honest that is pedestrian at best. Me personally…I sure would want better if there is a chance to get better. But that’s just me.[/quote:3377avic]

                        Phil Taylor isn't better and won't be for a couple of years. If they drafted him, he would have the luxury of learning behind two of the best 3-4 DEs in the history of the game. When his turn comes, he may be better and he may not, but he isn't better right out of the gate. Dick Lebeau will not start a rookie when he has veterans still performing at a high level.

                        Pappy
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                        The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                        1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                        3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                        3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                        4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                        5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                        7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                        "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #13
                          Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                          keisel made the pro bowl


                          gay, mcfadden, clark did not

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                          • Dee Dub
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 4652

                            #14
                            Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                            [quote=papillon]
                            Originally posted by Dee Dub
                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Originally posted by "Dee Dub":3p6uwyh7
                            Also I wouldn't be surprised if they went with Phil Taylor...who I see playing not at NT but as a 5-technique ala Hiloti Ngata.

                            Taylor--Hampton--Hood
                            A rookie isn't replacing Keisel in the starting lineup this year or next year, but it would be nice to have his replacement and someone to take a series or two during each game for the next couple years.

                            Just my opinion, Keisel may have had his best year as a pro this past year.

                            Pappy
                            The lack of appreciation for Kiesel continues. He is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the NFL. He gets better pressure on the QB than A. Smith.

                            Pappy is right...Kiesel will be in the starting line up for the next couple of years.
                            No disrespect to Keisel but see it for what it really is. He only played in 11 games last year. Had 33 tackles and 3 sacks. As much as we appreciate him…to be honest that is pedestrian at best. Me personally…I sure would want better if there is a chance to get better. But that’s just me.
                            Phil Taylor isn't better and won't be for a couple of years. If they drafted him, he would have the luxury of learning behind two of the best 3-4 DEs in the history of the game. When his turn comes, he may be better and he may not, but he isn't better right out of the gate. bad word Lebeau will not start a rookie when he has veterans still performing at a high level.

                            Pappy[/quote:3p6uwyh7]

                            You dont know that Pap. Taylor could be really special. And since Tomlin took over things have been slowly changing with the Steelers. Tomlin wants to win and if it means playing a rookie on defense he will do it.

                            Personally at 33 next year and having had a history of injuries...I doubt very seriously if Keisel will hold up for a whole season again.
                            Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                            1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                            • Dee Dub
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4652

                              #15
                              Re: BPA Likely To Be Steelers Draft Plan In 1st Round Of Dra

                              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                              keisel made the pro bowl


                              gay, mcfadden, clark did not
                              Give me a break. He was like a 3rd alternate that got the nod because of others who couldn’t go. And at 33 tackles and 3 sacks in all of 11 games played it wasn’t because of his play. It was because of the overall success of the Steelers. Keisel is not a pro bowler by first choice...only by default.
                              Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                              1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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