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Re: Steeelers to trade up.
Guard is our biggest need along with CB. And we haven't been able to find a G in your so called "loose places". It is obvious the step this OL took with Pouncey. Having a right handed offense clearly hinders this offense and makes it very predictable. You can afford whatever you want in a position if it makes the football team better and has a weakness. There isn't a receipe for success and saying only one 1st rounder for position shows your lack of football knowledge. You do remember the most recent elite OL the Steelers had was made up of multiple 1st rounders(3) and a 2nd rounder? Hartings was a 1st rounder by the Lions. Faneca & Simmons were 1st rounders and Smith was a second. Complaints??? I didn't here any. Of course we have needs down the line. Nobody said trade all 7 picks to move to #25 and I'm not certain...But there just might be another draft next year. 
But we have a chance to address immediate need that will start day one and pay dividends. So draft a guy who sits on the bench 2 or 3 years while the interior OL & offense struggles while the window closes on the talent the Steelers put together over the years. Good plan!
I didn't say Mike was better than his brother and how does that matter in a conversation of trading up from #31 to #25 for the top player at his position and one of our biggest needs? It doesn't. Maurkice at #18...Mike at #25. I'm sure you had to take math as a geneticist so you can do the math. Genetics is not part of the conversation. Best at his position...Position of need for Steelers. His name could be Mike Skippy. It is about value. How does bringing up what happened at Florida have to do with a conversation about trading up? Again, clearly don't know how things work. Does that mean Mike wasn't scholarship material and Maurkice wouldn't go there unless they offered Mike one? Colleges have limited scholarships to give per year. Keeps parity in the college system. Maybe Florida had plans to offer scholarships at other positions. Mike was scholarship material. He was recruited.
So what does "second fiddle" have to do with grading a player. He's not his brother at the C position. Maurkice isn't Mike at G. Mike is more stout at the point of attack. Maurkice more athletic. BUT...Both have athleticism that make them elite at their position. Both can get to the second level quickly and eliminate LBs. Both are capable in space and under control. Both have good hands, strong punch, quick setup in pass pro, great feet, solid technique, understand leverage, good knee benders, can work off combination blocks, find their target on their run, nasty, and finish blocks. More importantly, both will solidify their position for a decade and see several Pro Bowls. The word "genetics" never came up in that analysis.
I will take it upon myself to educate you in football. To make a reference about moving Colon to G after 4 years after we have seen his body of work tells the tale. Colon does not have the feet to play G. Let the comments begin about G athleticism versus OT athleticism. The Steelers G are asked to trap & pull. Colon is built like a G but he doesn't have the ankle flex to help his change of direction. He has a good kick slide to hold the corner. To compare, Pouncey during his kick slide position drill rarely beat the rusher to the cone. He has the short chops and can't cover as much going backwards. BUT...There isn't an OL on this team that has the quickness going forward in his phonebooth and body control he posesses. You get a OT with the long legs in his kick slide he covers the ground quickly but isn't churning his legs as quickly and can recover to the inside move while he can maintain a plant & wide base. An OL who has to churn his legs quickly backwards to cover the ground is vulnerable going upfield to an inside move. The quick steps lighten & narrow you base and a club by a rusher can easily throw you off balance and get you high in you setup. For the record...I know football...And I get it! I have to say... the line of "but its not just genetics (and I'm a geneticist by trade)" really was a treat.
Originally posted by aggiebones
But we have a chance to address immediate need that will start day one and pay dividends. So draft a guy who sits on the bench 2 or 3 years while the interior OL & offense struggles while the window closes on the talent the Steelers put together over the years. Good plan!I didn't say Mike was better than his brother and how does that matter in a conversation of trading up from #31 to #25 for the top player at his position and one of our biggest needs? It doesn't. Maurkice at #18...Mike at #25. I'm sure you had to take math as a geneticist so you can do the math. Genetics is not part of the conversation. Best at his position...Position of need for Steelers. His name could be Mike Skippy. It is about value. How does bringing up what happened at Florida have to do with a conversation about trading up? Again, clearly don't know how things work. Does that mean Mike wasn't scholarship material and Maurkice wouldn't go there unless they offered Mike one? Colleges have limited scholarships to give per year. Keeps parity in the college system. Maybe Florida had plans to offer scholarships at other positions. Mike was scholarship material. He was recruited.
So what does "second fiddle" have to do with grading a player. He's not his brother at the C position. Maurkice isn't Mike at G. Mike is more stout at the point of attack. Maurkice more athletic. BUT...Both have athleticism that make them elite at their position. Both can get to the second level quickly and eliminate LBs. Both are capable in space and under control. Both have good hands, strong punch, quick setup in pass pro, great feet, solid technique, understand leverage, good knee benders, can work off combination blocks, find their target on their run, nasty, and finish blocks. More importantly, both will solidify their position for a decade and see several Pro Bowls. The word "genetics" never came up in that analysis.
I will take it upon myself to educate you in football. To make a reference about moving Colon to G after 4 years after we have seen his body of work tells the tale. Colon does not have the feet to play G. Let the comments begin about G athleticism versus OT athleticism. The Steelers G are asked to trap & pull. Colon is built like a G but he doesn't have the ankle flex to help his change of direction. He has a good kick slide to hold the corner. To compare, Pouncey during his kick slide position drill rarely beat the rusher to the cone. He has the short chops and can't cover as much going backwards. BUT...There isn't an OL on this team that has the quickness going forward in his phonebooth and body control he posesses. You get a OT with the long legs in his kick slide he covers the ground quickly but isn't churning his legs as quickly and can recover to the inside move while he can maintain a plant & wide base. An OL who has to churn his legs quickly backwards to cover the ground is vulnerable going upfield to an inside move. The quick steps lighten & narrow you base and a club by a rusher can easily throw you off balance and get you high in you setup. For the record...I know football...And I get it! I have to say... the line of "but its not just genetics (and I'm a geneticist by trade)" really was a treat.
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