Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

[Scalaid6]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

However the ONE TD game vs the Seahawks doesnt qualify as ELITE stats. Sorry We could get that from Batch, Dixon or Leftwich (bums)

Playing without BOTH Ward and Santonio Holmes too?

Highly doubtful. I'll use the fact that the Steelers offense scored ZERO regulation TDs this season on offense in their first two games of 2010 without Ben, but WITH Ward and Wallace on the field.

And that Seahawks game in 2007 was an absolutely dominant display in every facet of the game, including QB play.

Yeah to a HOMER. If that was Leftwich, Batch or Dixon you guys would be complaining about one ONE TD.

[Scalaid6]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Now, Chadman isn't some great talent evaluater, or even a doyen of all things QB.

It could be that Ben isn't 'elite'. It could be that an organisation as strong as the Steelers is more responsible for Ben's success than any talent Ben contains.

Or maybe you're right- maybe Ben is uncoachable. Maybe he's a turd. Maybe he beats up on old women on Sunday afternoons.

but here's something Chadman does know- no amount of arguing the point is going to make it any different.

If a poster wants to come on here, tell us how great a talent evaluater he is & that he's more knowledgable than Crash about all things QB- don't let it rile you up. See it for what it is- another knobhead that thinks that starting crap for the sake of starting crap is hilarious.

7 pages of arguments feed the beast. You are only fanning the flames here people...

So are you DUMDUM

[NW Steeler]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Son, it's one thing to have opinions, it's another to think every one of your opinions is fact. It doesn't make you smart, just an arrogant little prick.

Thank you!

[Crash]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Teams HABITUALLY start the season slow on offense

Ben doesn't except for the 2006 season.

Now what?

[Crash]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Warner has Super Bowl records.

And most of his records are from games he LOST.

You are so obsessed with trolling on this board that you are arguing just for the sake of doing it 43. You are actually AGREEING with me on his "point" but your stupid a$s doesn't even realize it.

Go smoke your dope. Better yet? OD on it.

[Chadman]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Now, Chadman isn't some great talent evaluater, or even a doyen of all things QB.

It could be that Ben isn't 'elite'. It could be that an organisation as strong as the Steelers is more responsible for Ben's success than any talent Ben contains.

Or maybe you're right- maybe Ben is uncoachable. Maybe he's a turd. Maybe he beats up on old women on Sunday afternoons.

but here's something Chadman does know- no amount of arguing the point is going to make it any different.

If a poster wants to come on here, tell us how great a talent evaluater he is & that he's more knowledgable than Crash about all things QB- don't let it rile you up. See it for what it is- another knobhead that thinks that starting crap for the sake of starting crap is hilarious.

7 pages of arguments feed the beast. You are only fanning the flames here people...

So are you DUMDUM

Now, if Chadman were so inclined, he COULD point out that not only was your response infintile, it also showed your lack of any grasp of the English language- as "DUMDUM" should really have been spelt 'DUMB DUMB". you'll note the addition of the silent "B", a known bane of all moronic fools who don't know how to spell- many the downfall for those spelling bee's you obviously haven't graduated to yet. You may also note that there is a 'space' between the first & second 'DUMB'- you add these spaces between words or you runtheriskofallyourwarsjoiningtogetherandmakingyou looklikeacockhead.

Of course, Chadman isn't so inclined, so isn't likely to say any of that now, is he?

[Blockhead]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Warner has Super Bowl records.

And most of his records are from games he LOST.

You are so obsessed with trolling on this board that you are arguing just for the sake of doing it 43. You are actually AGREEING with me on his "point" but your stupid a$s doesn't even realize it.

Go smoke your dope. Better yet? OD on it.

To the mods of this forum, why is this material allowed to be posted time and time again without banishment of Crash?

Back on topic, you don't win Super Bowl MVP's for losing.

[DukieBoy]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

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[Crash]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Back on topic, you don't win Super Bowl MVP's for losing.

You don't? Better ask Chuck Howley about that.

[Crash]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Scalaid6 = HeHateMe

[sentinel33]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

WOW!

This thread was a no brainer from the get-go. It was also checkmate, in my opinion, when Shawn gave comparisons between Ben/Montana AND Ben/Elway. Those posts were outstanding and should be all anyone needs to see. But I knew this about Ben before he threw those stats up there. So did a few others in this thread.

There hasnt been a QB in the league that has done what Ben has in his first 7 years.
With Ben maturing and realizing some of the errors of his ways in the past, I can't wait for the 2nd half performance of his career.

True Steeler fans understand the value of Ben. We watch him play every weekend.

What Ben brings to the table is unquantifiable. He's a true original with all the moxy, schutspa and get-it-done attitude that one would ever need.

It was a heartbreaker to see this team come up short in the SB.

But if I know Ben, and I feel that I do(although,sadly, not personally), he is doing everything he can to get back to the SB and win it.



Driven by TWO things-Winning games and Championships.

Thats my kinda Quarterback.

THATS OUR QUARTERBACK!

[Oviedo]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

WOW!

This thread was a no brainer from the get-go. It was also checkmate, in my opinion, when Shawn gave comparisons between Ben/Montana AND Ben/Elway. Those posts were outstanding and should be all anyone needs to see. But I knew this about Ben before he threw those stats up there. So did a few others in this thread.

There hasnt been a QB in the league that has done what Ben has in his first 7 years.
With Ben maturing and realizing some of the errors of his ways in the past, I can't wait for the 2nd half performance of his career.

True Steeler fans understand the value of Ben. We watch him play every weekend.

What Ben brings to the table is unquantifiable. He's a true original with all the moxy, schutspa and get-it-done attitude that one would ever need.

It was a heartbreaker to see this team come up short in the SB.

But if I know Ben, and I feel that I do(although,sadly, not personally), he is doing everything he can to get back to the SB and win it.



Driven by TWO things-Winning games and Championships.

Thats my kinda Quarterback.

THATS OUR QUARTERBACK!

Truth and Wisdom

[ikestops85]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

Back on topic, you don't win Super Bowl MVP's for losing.

You don't? Better ask Chuck Howley about that.

Not many people know that ... I only do because Chuck Howley is a 3rd cousin of mine.

[feltdizz]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

I don't really care if Ben is considered elite or not. He is the perfect fit for our team and we have had a ton of success with him under center.

It's no surprise that the people who thought Ben wasn't elite after winning 2 SB's have the same opinion of his game after losing a SB.

Fans criticizing/debating the QB position shouldn't shock anyone because it's done all the time. Now as far as the Ben debate goes here is my opinion:

We reached 5 AFCCG's and 1 SB from 1981 to 2003 with mediocre QB play... this is probably why some people don't think Ben is the second coming of jesus at the QB position.

However, when you look at the stats over the first 7 years it's hard to argue his elite status.

The real question is if Ben has hit the ceiling or is there room for him to grow and become a better QB?

[Crash]

Re: Little Ben Is Inconsistent, the Truth Hurts

So one SB berth from 1981-2003, and three in seven years since Ben got here and fans want to use 1981-2003's "success" as a means to downplay Ben's achievements?

WTF ever. If anything the lack of SB berth's and rings from 1981-2003 enhance Ben's career even more.