Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

[The Answer]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Practically every person that has ever talked negatively to me regarding Ben and his "off-season antics" has digested some sort of skewed article from some anti-steeler hack reporter, that no inkling about producing an article with facts. When the story first broke out, I was outraged and pre-judged, like most, with a mindset of "where there's smoke, there's fire." But after seeing the video tape of the alleged victim's testimony, I was like, "no wonder they never charged him." Anyone with half a brain listening/seeing this interview couldn't have walked away with a "he's guilty" opinion. Her demeanor was far from distraught and at times was downright giddy. I think those who could care less about the Steelers never saw this footage and thus could never really have a fair perspective.

What I came away with is that Ben made an idiotic judgment call having sex in a public place with a stranger who was intoxicated and under the drinking age. Lesson learned folks, but unfortunately Ben lives in the "information highway" era where public perception is never about clarity, but more about what will the media yarn spinners could do with skewed information that will sell to the public.

O.K. I'll give you that for one. But there's two in a month. Where there's twice smoke, there's always fire. Two, thousands of miles apart. Not two women that know each other. One trial still to go. I'm not saying Ben is your classic rapist by any means. But I think he just learned that no means no. I think it's very naive to pass the two cases off as simply co-incidence or something.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Two in a month?

And have you ever read the reports on McNutty?

[ikestops85]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Practically every person that has ever talked negatively to me regarding Ben and his "off-season antics" has digested some sort of skewed article from some anti-steeler hack reporter, that no inkling about producing an article with facts. When the story first broke out, I was outraged and pre-judged, like most, with a mindset of "where there's smoke, there's fire." But after seeing the video tape of the alleged victim's testimony, I was like, "no wonder they never charged him." Anyone with half a brain listening/seeing this interview couldn't have walked away with a "he's guilty" opinion. Her demeanor was far from distraught and at times was downright giddy. I think those who could care less about the Steelers never saw this footage and thus could never really have a fair perspective.

What I came away with is that Ben made an idiotic judgment call having sex in a public place with a stranger who was intoxicated and under the drinking age. Lesson learned folks, but unfortunately Ben lives in the "information highway" era where public perception is never about clarity, but more about what will the media yarn spinners could do with skewed information that will sell to the public.

O.K. I'll give you that for one. But there's two in a month. Where there's twice smoke, there's always fire. Two, thousands of miles apart. Not two women that know each other. One trial still to go. I'm not saying Ben is your classic rapist by any means. But I think he just learned that no means no. I think it's very naive to pass the two cases off as simply co-incidence or something.

It's not coincidence. The two cases are very much related and you are correct assuming where there is smoke there is fire. A one night stand in Nevada felt jilted and a year after decided to seek revenge on the famous man who wronged her. She filed a civil suit claiming that Ben sexually assaulted her.

Approximately 9 months later at Ben's birthday party another girl felt jilted that Ben wasn't paying enough attention to her so she started calling him a rapist. Ben had her thrown out of the party. She talks her drunk sorority sister into believing Ben raped her. After 3 or so tries the sorority sister gets her story straight and the bruhaha results. After sobering up the sorority sister realizes the error of her ways and declines to cooperate with the investigation.

So yes, where there is smoke there is fire. Don't hang around with drunk women who might want to get back at you if you don't want to marry them. This is what you meant, right?

[JAR]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Two in a month?

And have you ever read the reports on McNutty?

Apparently not.

I'd also like to find where the concrete evidence is that Ben had sex with DTF or was even in the bathroom with her at all. The only ones ever saying those two things were the drunken DTFs.

[Crash]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Two, thousands of miles apart

Real slow, and for the 100th time:

Miss DTF and her party knew of the Reno accusations, and one of her friends was removed from the VIP room for mentioning it.

Do you really think Ben tried to rape a women mere minutes after being called a rapist?

The McNulty case will end the minute she is asked how she knew Ben's TV was "broken" 24 hours BEFORE Ben did.

[NW Steeler]

Re: Negative SI article about Ben

looking at her photo you would think she (like most of the rest of us) would realize just how important alcohol is to successful mating.
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That was AWESOME!!! LMAO!!!

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Two, thousands of miles apart

Real slow, and for the 100th time:

Miss DTF and her party knew of the Reno accusations, and one of her friends was removed from the VIP room for mentioning it.

Do you really think Ben tried to rape a women mere minutes after being called a rapist?

The McNulty case will end the minute she is asked how she knew Ben's TV was "broken" 24 hours BEFORE Ben did.

And she told the cops he was 6'5" 241 pounds. The same listing as the SDteelers official web site.

And he was probably pushing more like 260 at the time.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Wed Feb 02

Poll: Roethlisberger is most disliked player in Super Bowl

By Chris Chase




No surprise here. According to a recent poll, Ben Roethlisberger will be the most disliked player in Super Bowl XLV. What, you were expecting Mason Crosby?

The Hollywood Reporter commissioned a poll by Penn Schoen Berland which revealed that the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback will be the least favorite player on the field at Cowboys Stadium. He is "strongly disliked" three times more than any other player in the game.

Poll results were released before Big Ben's all-smiles performance at Tuesday's media day.

According to the survey, Roethlisberger isn't the most disliked player in the league. He finished fourth overall in that category behind Brett Favre, Michael Vick and Tom Brady. (Really, people? More of you dislike Brady than Big Ben? Nobody is going to accuse me of being a big fan of adult Bieber, but come on.)

Other findings in the poll reveal that 78 percent of Americans plan to watch Sunday's game, more people will be rooting for the Packers, and that men look forward to the game more than their anniversaries (probably because they can actually remember the date of the Super Bowl).

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[The Sodfather]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

And she told the cops he was 6'5" 241 pounds. The same listing as the SDteelers official web site.

And he was probably pushing more like 260 at the time.

That's the part that really makes you wonder.

[The Answer]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Crash. I'm not saying he's your classic rapist. But he has to learn that no means now. doesn't matter if it's the first time or the 100th. Doesn't matter who knew a TV was broke. Doesn't matter who's drunk. You ignore the protests, and you get listed as a sexual offender like everyone else. He's very lucky to be playing in this Super Bowl.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Re: Ben Can't escape the deed(s)

Crash. I'm not saying he's your classic rapist. But he has to learn that no means now. doesn't matter if it's the first time or the 100th. Doesn't matter who knew a TV was broke. Doesn't matter who's drunk. You ignore the protests, and you get listed as a sexual offender like everyone else. He's very lucky to be playing in this Super Bowl.

I know it was a typo, but that is funny.

Anyways, I think that you are taking a giant leap in assuming that Ben was told no and proceeded to have sex with these women despite their protests.

Start with Nevada. Woman has sex with famous guy. She brags for months to friends and co-workers. She talks about him being her boyfriend. He ignores her continued attempts at communication. Suddenly now she was raped.

Lets get past that before we even discuss number two.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Ron Cook: Big Ben will repay his biggest debt

Teammates stood behind quarterback during his trying year

Sunday, February 06, 2011
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Peter Diana/Post-Gazette

Ben Roethlisberger takes time to shoot video of the media gathered before player interviews Tuesday.


ARLINGTON, Texas -- The other Steelers had Ben Roethlisberger's back as long ago as that disgusting March night in Milledgeville, Ga., despite assertions to the contrary that you might have heard this week from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. They had his back when Dennis Dixon and mostly Charlie Batch led the team to a 3-1 start during his four-game NFL suspension. They had his back here, deep in the heart of Texas, all week during the hysterical run-up to Super Bowl XLV.

Tonight, Roethlisberger will return the favor. Tonight, he will say thank you to his teammates in the best possible way. Tonight, he will lead the Steelers past the Green Bay Packers for their third Super Bowl title in the past six seasons and their record seventh in franchise history.

I write that even though a big part of me thinks the Packers are going to win. They are 2 1/2-point favorites for a reason -- they are very, very good. Their powerful front seven could cause fits for the Steelers offensive line, which will play without Pro Bowl center Maurkice Pouncey. Their franchise quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, and his cast of thousands at wide receiver could do the same to the Steelers secondary, much as Tom Brady and his New England bunch did earlier in the season.

But now that it's time to pick the game, I can't pull the trigger and go with the Packers. I can't pick against Roethlisberger. There's just no way. I fully expect him to find a way to win the game for the Steelers.

It's funny, I had to laugh the other day when Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace called Roethlisberger "one of the best clutch quarterbacks probably to ever play the game." Wallace is 24, hardly old enough to remember Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana and maybe even John Elway. But I'm more than old enough to know those players' greatness. Roethlisberger is right there with them, at least he will be if he leads the Steelers to that third title. I believe he's Hall of Fame-worthy right now, but he'll be an absolute lock if he gets that third ring, a number reached only by Montana and Terry Bradshaw, who have four, and Brady and Troy Aikman, who have three.

Roethlisberger already has led an Elwayesque-drive in a Super Bowl. Two years ago, in Super Bowl XLIII, he took the Steelers 78 yards in the final two minutes for the winning touchdown to beat the Arizona Cardinals, 27-23. His 6-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Santonio Holmes is one of the fabulous plays in the Steelers' long, storied history.

Roethlisberger is 10-2 as a postseason starter after victories in these playoffs against the Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets. He wasn't even close to being spectacular against the Jets -- his 35.5 passer rating is pretty good proof -- but he made two throws in the final three minutes that the Steelers had to have to win.

That's what Roethlisberger does.

He wins football games.

Don't be fooled by the front that Roethlisberger puts up for the media. Before the game against the Jets, he talked about their great defense beating Brady and the Patriots and Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts. "I don't know what I'm supposed to do against them." Here, when told that national surveys showed that more people would pick Rodgers to be their quarterback than him, he grinned and said, "I'd take Aaron, too."

That's nonsense, of course.

Roethlisberger hardly lacks confidence.

Especially late in games when everything is on the line.

"I don't know what it is," he said. "I think it's probably the competitiveness, the drive to want to do whatever it takes to win the game. I want it to be on my shoulders. I don't do it for the glory. I don't want to be a hero. I just want to win the game."

Or, as Steelers offensive line coach Sean Kugler put it so eloquently, "Competitiveness, desire, that unbelievable will to win, you name it, this guy has it."

The other Steelers see it. They appreciate it. Mostly, they love that Roethlisberger wins games, puts money in their pockets and rings on their fingers.

That's why it wasn't surprising when all of the Steelers rushed to support Roethlisberger last week after Goodell was quoted by Sports Illustrated that "not a single player" came to Roethlisberger's defense after he was accused of sexual assault in Milledgeville. I know Roethlisberger wasn't the most popular player in the locker room at the time, but I don't believe Goodell for one second in this instance. Nor does Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel, who is among Roethlisberger's closest friends.

"All of us care about him," Keisel said. "We are his brothers."

Roethlisberger anticipated the questions about his personal life during Super Bowl week. But he was blind-sided by Goodell's assertion, which was deplorable considering the timing of the story. Clearly, he appreciated the united show of support from everyone from coach Mike Tomlin to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who said, "I couldn't ask for a better person for [my kids] to hang out with," from Keisel to running back Rashard Mendenhall, who said, "Ben is a great teammate and a great leader."

Said Roethlisberger, "I'm just lucky to be on this team with these guys."

Roethlisberger said he wants to win tonight for Steelers offensive tackle Flozell Adams, who spent the first 12 years of his NFL career with the Dallas Cowboys and was a part of just one wild-card round playoff win before joining the Steelers in the summer. But that's only a part of Roethlisberger's motivation. He wants to win for all his guys. He is determined to have their backs in the biggest game after they had his for so long.

I can't pick against that.

Steelers 24, Packers 17.

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