observations from Heinz...

[Starlifter]

Not gonna overreact but today hurt quite a bit. a win would've almost guaranteed the bye week and we sure need it. Now it looks like Cleveland may again play a spoiler role. As for today.

Got outcoached. Say what you want about fatty - but going for it from FG range on 4th down and calling a QB option pass/run was brilliant. Rex didn't hold anything back and clearly his previous experiences against us had him well prepared.

Got outplayed. We're simply not the same team without Troy. Of course any team without Troy is less than before BUT one thing we've learned over the past few years is Troy WILL be hurt throughout the season. He can't be replaced obviously, but we need an answer for the 6-8 games a year he misses. BTW, on the 4th down QB option - does anything think Troy would have been fooled?

Now, there WAS some good today. I didn't hear any announcers but from my vantage point I thought the O-line did a very nice job. Ben was relatively clean and had lots of time for his reads. Good holes for the running backs. The safety sucked - but overall I thought the O was decent. Having said that - we better find a way to start scoring more than 17 points a game. Any team that can't put up 30 will not have a very long playoff run. BTW, Kiesel in the backfield??? AWESOME!

Receivers still coming along very nicely. While it's way too early to look towards next season I can tell you right now I'll be stoked going into camp with our WR corp.

Like I said. No need to push the panic button. Now, if carolina comes in and hands us our 4th HOME loss of the year - PANIC!!!!!

[papillon]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Tomlin is out coached because the Jets caught the Steelers expecting a dive and ran a bootleg on 4th down?

Do the Steeler coaches get any credit for having a 100 yard rusher on the #3 rated rush defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for hiding Mundy and not giving up a big play on defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for stopping them and getting the ball back to the offense twice in the final 4 minutes for a chance to win?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 96 yard TD drive, the longest of the year against the Jets?

Do the coaches get any credit for the Steelers only having 3 penalties in the game?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 2/3 red zone efficiency?

Why do we have to blame someone? The game was there for the taking and this time it didn't work out for the Steelers. They have a game Thursday that can put them in the playoffs and put them in a position to control their destiny for the #2 seed.

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say. The Jets simply won a well played game, it happens.

Everyone relax and come in off the ledge.

Pappy

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Everyone relax and come in off the ledge.

Pappy

[papillon]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Everyone relax and come in off the ledge.

Pappy

Exactly!

Pappy

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: observations from Heinz...

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say.

If that's the case, how come we lost?

The Jets either out-coached, out-played, or out-somethinged the Steelers (or some combination thereof), or we'd have won this game.

[papillon]

Re: observations from Heinz...

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say.

If that's the case, how come we lost?

The Jets either out-coached, out-played, or out-somethinged the Steelers (or some combination thereof), or we'd have won this game.

Because it was a well played game by both teams and the Steelers didn't make a play with 9 seconds left to win the game. If you want to blame someone that's fine; I saw a good effort today, except for a couple plays. The game was evenly played; someone has to lose, today it was the Steelers, it happens, hopefully, not in the playoffs.

Pappy

[pepsyman1]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Tomlin is out coached because the Jets caught the Steelers expecting a dive and ran a bootleg on 4th down?

Do the Steeler coaches get any credit for having a 100 yard rusher on the #3 rated rush defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for hiding Mundy and not giving up a big play on defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for stopping them and getting the ball back to the offense twice in the final 4 minutes for a chance to win?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 96 yard TD drive, the longest of the year against the Jets?

Do the coaches get any credit for the Steelers only having 3 penalties in the game?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 2/3 red zone efficiency?

Why do we have to blame someone? The game was there for the taking and this time it didn't work out for the Steelers. They have a game Thursday that can put them in the playoffs and put them in a position to control their destiny for the #2 seed.

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say. The Jets simply won a well played game, it happens.

Everyone relax and come in off the ledge.

Pappy

Pappy, I'm with you. But I am really upset that we managed to put up close to 400 yards offense, 64% on third down conversions, 100 yards out of Mendy and we STILL only managed 17 points???? Putting up stats seems to be what our boy Arians is good at, but at some point I'd like to see his 3 WR sets and all the flash and plays down the field turn into an offense that scores points. The Friggin Patriots have rookies and free agents all over the field and continue to score points as easily as walking into 7-11 and buying a big gulp.

[Starlifter]

Re: observations from Heinz...

I didn't say tomlin got outcoached on every play. that was a significant one however and the entire team was fooled. another was the direct snap to LT to keep the drive alive and burn more time. In a tight game with few mistakes, those few plays made a huge difference. I'm not saying ryan is a better coach - but he had a few brilliant calls when it counted. That was the difference.

and yes, when you win someone gets the credit and when you lose someone gets the blame. that's how it works. speaking of blame, I am convinced if we fail to win the SB - it will be because bmac gave up another huge play.

[Crash]

Re: observations from Heinz...

We didn't have the ball. The Jets had the ball for over 10 minutes in the 3rd quarter.

That was the key to the game, in time, and in field position.

[papillon]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Tomlin is out coached because the Jets caught the Steelers expecting a dive and ran a bootleg on 4th down?

Do the Steeler coaches get any credit for having a 100 yard rusher on the #3 rated rush defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for hiding Mundy and not giving up a big play on defense?

Do the coaches get any credit for stopping them and getting the ball back to the offense twice in the final 4 minutes for a chance to win?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 96 yard TD drive, the longest of the year against the Jets?

Do the coaches get any credit for the Steelers only having 3 penalties in the game?

Do the coaches get any credit for the 2/3 red zone efficiency?

Why do we have to blame someone? The game was there for the taking and this time it didn't work out for the Steelers. They have a game Thursday that can put them in the playoffs and put them in a position to control their destiny for the #2 seed.

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say. The Jets simply won a well played game, it happens.

Everyone relax and come in off the ledge.

Pappy

Pappy, I'm with you. But I am really upset that we managed to put up close to 400 yards offense, 64% on third down conversions, 100 yards out of Mendy and we STILL only managed 17 points???? Putting up stats seems to be what our boy Arians is good at, but at some point I'd like to see his 3 WR sets and all the flash and plays down the field turn into an offense that scores points. The Friggin Patriots have rookies and free agents all over the field and continue to score points as easily as walking into 7-11 and buying a big gulp.

The Steelers had two drives of 90 plus yards and the third drive of 90 plus yards unfortunately ended at the 9 yard line with 00:00 on the clock. That's part of the reason they only scored 17 points. The punter for the Jets is their MVP for this game. The Steelers were playing up hill all day.

Pappy

[steelfin]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Steelers had TOP of 31 minutes and Jets had TOP of 28 minutes...

ST and offense were mainly responsible for field position.

[papillon]

Re: observations from Heinz...

I didn't say tomlin got outcoached on every play. that was a significant one however and the entire team was fooled. another was the direct snap to LT to keep the drive alive and burn more time. In a tight game with few mistakes, those few plays made a huge difference. I'm not saying ryan is a better coach - but he had a few brilliant calls when it counted. That was the difference.

and yes, when you win someone gets the credit and when you lose someone gets the blame. that's how it works. speaking of blame, I am convinced if we fail to win the SB - it will be because bmac gave up another huge play.

Yup, the Jets executed a couple cute plays to perfection, that's not necessarily getting out coached. Those plays may not be on film or not on the film that they watched. I can't imagine they used them very often during the season.

No need to blame anyone, IMO, I'm certain that the Steelers aren't. All you do is alienate each other if you point fingers. It was a well played game, the Steelers lost, each unit had their positive plays and negative plays.

Pappy

[LordVile]

Re: observations from Heinz...

No one was out coached, out played or out anything you want to say.

If that's the case, how come we lost?

The Jets either out-coached, out-played, or out-somethinged the Steelers (or some combination thereof), or we'd have won this game.

Because it was a well played game by both teams and the Steelers didn't make a play with 9 seconds left to win the game. If you want to blame someone that's fine; I saw a good effort today, except for a couple plays. The game was evenly played; someone has to lose, today it was the Steelers, it happens, hopefully, not in the playoffs.

Pappy

Well said Paps, the Men of STEEL gave a good effort. We can't win EVERY game, I know a loss is a loss but at least we can have some pride that we didn't get our REAR-ENDS kicked in. A few ppl on Facebook during the game where bad mouthing the players and it annoyed me. 1/2 the problems were our fault but the other 1/2 were the refs. I'm glad we came this far with all the injuries and everything.

We sometimes get too spoiled winning so much and the standards we set but I want Arians outta here.

[steelfin]

Re: observations from Heinz...

I didn't say tomlin got outcoached on every play. that was a significant one however and the entire team was fooled. another was the direct snap to LT to keep the drive alive and burn more time. In a tight game with few mistakes, those few plays made a huge difference. I'm not saying ryan is a better coach - but he had a few brilliant calls when it counted. That was the difference.

and yes, when you win someone gets the credit and when you lose someone gets the blame. that's how it works. speaking of blame, I am convinced if we fail to win the SB - it will be because bmac gave up another huge play.

Yup, the Jets executed a couple cute plays to perfection, that's not necessarily getting out coached. Those plays may not be on film or not on the film that they watched. I can't imagine they used them very often during the season.

No need to blame anyone, IMO, I'm certain that the Steelers aren't. All you do is alienate each other if you point fingers. It was a well played game, the Steelers lost, each unit had their positive plays and negative plays.

Pappy

Exactly...The Steelers were the #1 losers....we should be proud.

[Crash]

Re: observations from Heinz...

Steelers had TOP of 31 minutes and Jets had TOP of 28 minutes...

So before the final drive it was damn near even?

That proves my point.