Bowing out of the BA debate

[Djfan]

He sucks. Some of you know it, some of you won't see it.

I'm OK with that. So some of us throw ideas out there to back our points. Great. It's called conversation.

Some like to be poopy diaper name callers to the ones you disagree with. It happens on both sides.

I'm done with it.

Can hardly wait until he's gone. That ain't changing.

[Oviedo]

Re: Bowing out of the BA debate

Seeing the constant threads about Arians disappear would be addition by subtraction.

The "copy and paste" criticisms and responses have gotten old. There hasn't been a new thought in over two years.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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There hasn't been a new thought in over two years.

Are you talking about B.A. threads or B.A.'s playbook?

[hawaiiansteel]

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[Flasteel]

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There hasn't been a new thought in over two years.

Are you talking about B.A. threads or B.A.'s playbook?

Zing!!

[Djfan]

Re: Bowing out of the BA debate

There hasn't been a new thought in over two years.

Are you talking about B.A. threads or B.A.'s playbook?

Zing!!

Most books are longer than two pages.

[SteelTorch]

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There hasn't been a new thought in over two years.

Are you talking about B.A. threads or B.A.'s playbook?

Zing!!

Most books are longer than two pages.

I'm almost to the point of bowing out, too. It gets old running in circles after a while. My view is this: Arians stinks, and I have yet to see anything convince me otherwise. If certain fans won't acknowledge by now that he's at least sub-par, then they never will. It's not worth trying to convince them otherwise.

[Discipline of Steel]

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Mods, can you fix it so 'bad word' comes up when someone tries to type the name Bruce?

[SteelHead]

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1st time for me chiming in on the whole "BA" saga. Until now I've been content to sit back and enjoy the endless moronic rhetoric leaning toward one extreme opinion of him to the other.

Here's the deal fellas , whether you like it or not , whether you agree or not....

Bruce Arians is a good OC. Is he Sean Payton ?....no , is he the worst OC in the league ? NO. He's somewhere in between.

Take off you crazed Steeler fan glasses , open your eyes and realize there are dozens of OC's all around the league that get criticized for this or that every single Sunday.

Does he need to improve in some key areas , hell yeah.....what OC doesn't need to constantly improve. Even the great ones who seemingly "always get it right" eventually have to switch things up to stay fresh and current.

I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.

Do you happen to get it right sometimes , yeah.......you spout enough stuff out and somethings bound to stick.

Tomlin and the Rooneys are employing the man for a reason.

Bruce Arians is a good OC.

[cruzer8]

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^^

You should have stayed out of it. BA sucks. He sucks a$$. He sucks dead mule a$$.

[BURGH86STEEL]

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1st time for me chiming in on the whole "BA" saga. Until now I've been content to sit back and enjoy the endless moronic rhetoric leaning toward one extreme opinion of him to the other.

Here's the deal fellas , whether you like it or not , whether you agree or not....

Bruce Arians is a good OC. Is he Sean Payton ?....no , is he the worst OC in the league ? NO. He's somewhere in between.

Take off you crazed Steeler fan glasses , open your eyes and realize there are dozens of OC's all around the league that get criticized for this or that every single Sunday.

Does he need to improve in some key areas , hell yeah.....what OC doesn't need to constantly improve. Even the great ones who seemingly "always get it right" eventually have to switch things up to stay fresh and current.

I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.

Do you happen to get it right sometimes , yeah.......you spout enough stuff out and somethings bound to stick.

Tomlin and the Rooneys are employing the man for a reason.

Bruce Arians is a good OC.

I agree.

[Flasteel]

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1st time for me chiming in on the whole "BA" saga. Until now I've been content to sit back and enjoy the endless moronic rhetoric leaning toward one extreme opinion of him to the other.

Here's the deal fellas , whether you like it or not , whether you agree or not....

Bruce Arians is a good OC. Is he Sean Payton ?....no , is he the worst OC in the league ? NO. He's somewhere in between.

Take off you crazed Steeler fan glasses , open your eyes and realize there are dozens of OC's all around the league that get criticized for this or that every single Sunday.

Does he need to improve in some key areas , hell yeah.....what OC doesn't need to constantly improve. Even the great ones who seemingly "always get it right" eventually have to switch things up to stay fresh and current.

I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.

Do you happen to get it right sometimes , yeah.......you spout enough stuff out and somethings bound to stick.

Tomlin and the Rooneys are employing the man for a reason.

Bruce Arians is a good OC.

Sofa coach? Listen here brother, before you start trying to slap a derogatory label on all those who have a negative viewpoint on Arians, maybe you should understand the points being made. How about understanding the game of football for that matter? I'm not about to start making crazy accusations about my coaching ability or knowledge, compared to BA...there is no comparison. He's in the NFL and I watch the NFL...pretty well sums it up.

However, it's not your blanket insult concerning the intellect of those who have issues with BA that's got me riled up; it's your liberal and subjective use of the word "good". In your opinion BA may be good-but hey, I know some people who think liver tastes good. I'm sure there are lots of folks who believe polka music sounds good, Carrot Top looks good, and a swift kick in the nuts feels good.

I take your opinion that BA is a good OC in the same vein.

He may share a lot of attributes with a quality football coach, but he leaves a lot to be desired as an OC...that's my opinion. The opinion you have doesn't necessarily make you wrong; it just shows that you have a much higher tolerance for crap.

[SteelHead]

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1st time for me chiming in on the whole "BA" saga. Until now I've been content to sit back and enjoy the endless moronic rhetoric leaning toward one extreme opinion of him to the other.

Here's the deal fellas , whether you like it or not , whether you agree or not....

Bruce Arians is a good OC. Is he Sean Payton ?....no , is he the worst OC in the league ? NO. He's somewhere in between.

Take off you crazed Steeler fan glasses , open your eyes and realize there are dozens of OC's all around the league that get criticized for this or that every single Sunday.

Does he need to improve in some key areas , hell yeah.....what OC doesn't need to constantly improve. Even the great ones who seemingly "always get it right" eventually have to switch things up to stay fresh and current.

I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.

Do you happen to get it right sometimes , yeah.......you spout enough stuff out and somethings bound to stick.

Tomlin and the Rooneys are employing the man for a reason.

Bruce Arians is a good OC.

Sofa coach? Listen here brother, before you start trying to slap a derogatory label on all those who have a negative viewpoint on Arians, maybe you should understand the points being made. How about understanding the game of football for that matter? I'm not about to start making crazy accusations about my coaching ability or knowledge, compared to BA...there is no comparison. He's in the NFL and I watch the NFL...pretty well sums it up.

However, it's not your blanket insult concerning the intellect of those who have issues with BA that's got me riled up; it's your liberal and subjective use of the word "good". In your opinion BA may be good-but hey, I know some people who think liver tastes good. I'm sure there are lots of folks who believe polka music sounds good, Carrot Top looks good, and a swift kick in the nuts feels good.

I take your opinion that BA is a good OC in the same vein.

He may share a lot of attributes with a quality football coach, but he leaves a lot to be desired as an OC...that's my opinion. The opinion you have doesn't necessarily make you wrong; it just shows that you have a much higher tolerance for crap.

You scorn me for making blanket assumptions about anti-Arians (which by the way was not my point) supporters then do the same to me by saying , "How about understanding the game of football". Odd. And when did I "insult the intelligence" of those who have issues with BA. Simply put , I didn't.

I know enough about professional football to know that I don't know as much as the professionals. THAT , in it of itself is my point.

As far as my use of the word "good" , your right, sometimes good is subjective, other times it's not. When there is an established baseline of what is considered "good" in the NFL and you meet said criteria , therefore you are "good". And frankly , what you deem as good has no bearing on anything , it's what the owners and coaches deem as good that matters. And I trust them more than I trust you , or myself for that matter.

Does BA leave something to be desired at times , yes. Has he done plenty of good for the team as well , yes. Looking at it any other way is , well........WRONG.

Sometimes there is only one truth.

GO STEELERS !!!!

[Jooser]

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ARIANS SUCKS [PERIOD]
Oh, am I shouting?

[Flasteel]

Re: Bowing out of the BA debate

1st time for me chiming in on the whole "BA" saga. Until now I've been content to sit back and enjoy the endless moronic rhetoric leaning toward one extreme opinion of him to the other.

Here's the deal fellas , whether you like it or not , whether you agree or not....

Bruce Arians is a good OC. Is he Sean Payton ?....no , is he the worst OC in the league ? NO. He's somewhere in between.

Take off you crazed Steeler fan glasses , open your eyes and realize there are dozens of OC's all around the league that get criticized for this or that every single Sunday.

Does he need to improve in some key areas , hell yeah.....what OC doesn't need to constantly improve. Even the great ones who seemingly "always get it right" eventually have to switch things up to stay fresh and current.

I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.

Do you happen to get it right sometimes , yeah.......you spout enough stuff out and somethings bound to stick.

Tomlin and the Rooneys are employing the man for a reason.

Bruce Arians is a good OC.

Sofa coach? Listen here brother, before you start trying to slap a derogatory label on all those who have a negative viewpoint on Arians, maybe you should understand the points being made. How about understanding the game of football for that matter? I'm not about to start making crazy accusations about my coaching ability or knowledge, compared to BA...there is no comparison. He's in the NFL and I watch the NFL...pretty well sums it up.

However, it's not your blanket insult concerning the intellect of those who have issues with BA that's got me riled up; it's your liberal and subjective use of the word "good". In your opinion BA may be good-but hey, I know some people who think liver tastes good. I'm sure there are lots of folks who believe polka music sounds good, Carrot Top looks good, and a swift kick in the nuts feels good.

I take your opinion that BA is a good OC in the same vein.

He may share a lot of attributes with a quality football coach, but he leaves a lot to be desired as an OC...that's my opinion. The opinion you have doesn't necessarily make you wrong; it just shows that you have a much higher tolerance for crap.

You scorn me for making blanket assumptions about anti-Arians (which by the way was not my point) supporters then do the same to me by saying , "How about understanding the game of football". Odd. And when did I "insult the intelligence" of those who have issues with BA. Simply put , I didn't.

I know enough about professional football to know that I don't know as much as the professionals. THAT , in it of itself is my point.

As far as my use of the word "good" , your right, sometimes good is subjective, other times it's not. When there is an established baseline of what is considered "good" in the NFL and you meet said criteria , therefore you are "good". And frankly , what you deem as good has no bearing on anything , it's what the owners and coaches deem as good that matters. And I trust them more than I trust you , or myself for that matter.

Does BA leave something to be desired at times , yes. Has he done plenty of good for the team as well , yes. Looking at it any other way is , well........WRONG.

Sometimes there is only one truth.

GO STEELERS !!!!

My bad…I didn’t realize “sofa coach” was intended as a compliment.

“I'm tired of all you "Sofa Coaches" who think you know better. YOU DON'T.” pretty much comes off as an attack on everyone who is critical of BA-thus the blanket statement.

The comment about you understanding the game of football was a piggy-back on the previous sentence about understanding the points involved in the “debate”. My intention was that if you don’t understand the points of contention (not necessarily agree), then you simply don’t understand the game. Much of it is subjective and open to opinion; other points are far more damnable. There was no blanket statement. It was intended for you alone and indicted your understanding of the game only as far as your lack of understanding for our beef with Arians.

His employment status is a tenuous piece of evidence to hang your hat on by the way. By your logic, everyone is good until they are fired. I guess it will be cool to come back here WHEN Arians is fired and agree with us.
Did you expect for Tomlin to fire Arians after the first year? I even stated we should not.

Did you expect to can him the next year following the Super Bowl?

Do you think that AR2 came out and demanded we get back to a more efficient running game because he likes the job BA is doing?

I don’t base my opinions on the actions of others. I trust my informed knowledge of the game and apply it to the things I see.