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  • Captain Lemming
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    • Jun 2008
    • 16041

    #16
    Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

    Originally posted by Crash
    He wasn't thinking when he called Jack Tatum an ex Steeler either.
    That was HERESY.
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    • MaxAMillion
      Backup
      • Dec 2008
      • 439

      #17
      Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

      I thought he said porn as well, but Bob Poppa kept right on talking liked nothing happened so maybe he said something else. It sure sounded like he said Porn.

      Keenan Lewis will eventually start for the Steelers ( I love his potential).
      You have to give the Steeler front office credit for their last two drafts. There are multiple players in each draft who will make a major impact. There are some teams who are lucky to get one quality player out of a draft.
      The Steelers’ went through seven consecutive drafts (2003-09) without taking an offensive lineman in the first two rounds, the longest such streak by any franchise this century.

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #18
        Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

        Originally posted by Crash
        He wasn't thinking when he called Jack Tatum an ex Steeler either.
        true

        forgot about that one, although he did come abck and say lambert

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        • SanAntonioSteelerFan
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 8361

          #19
          Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

          Flozell Adams isn''t such a great pass blocker. If he's going to be on the line, I don't want him on Ben's blind side.

          He's pretty good on the run block.


          We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

          HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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          • birtikidis
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4628

            #20
            Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

            I like Logan and wish he were in a better situation, I just don't see him making this team. He doesn't offer enough as a receiver. Think about it. you have a spot for a long snapper, a returner, kicker and punter... those would be guys that are only on the field for a fraction of a game. Brown is a young guy first off (Logan is 29) and has potential to develop.

            Can't help but gloat a little with how well Pouncey has been playing. the guy is a stud. not only is he great at the POA but he also gets to the 2nd level on EVERY play. dude is a stud.

            IF you can give Lefty time, I could just see bomb after bomb going to Wallace.

            Heath Miller will be mentioned among the great TE's in the game. He will have 70+ catches no problem.

            I loved seeing Sep kick. Absolutely loved it. I'm so tired of seeing Reeds panseyass kicks and his extreme lack of effort..

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            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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              • May 2008
              • 8361

              #21
              Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

              ^^ I was just going to post... I didn't think Sep did any better on his kickoffs than the typical Skippy kick. Now of course, he did save us 7 points with his tackle - Skippy would have been running to the other sideline, instead of making a FOOTBALL tackle like Sep did.

              Bottom line, IMO, Sep didn't lay a strong claim to the kicker's job. But it's good to know we have a backup!


              We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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              • birtikidis
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4628

                #22
                Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                Seps kicks had slightly longer hangtime. they may not have been deeper, but it seemed like our boys got down there sooner. and they seemed a bit higher.

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #23
                  Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                  I don't think it's fair to say a KR is a fraction of the game. How many times will Brown see the field as a WR this year? A fraction of a fraction? LOL.

                  I still think Logan has the ability to impact games amd change field position and those are huge. If long snapper is just a fraction why not have Harrison or Timmons do it? ST's is 1/3 of a football game and I think Logan should stick around for one more year.
                  Steelers 27
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                  • birtikidis
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4628

                    #24
                    Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I don't think it's fair to say a KR is a fraction of the game. How many times will Brown see the field as a WR this year? A fraction of a fraction? LOL.

                    I still think Logan has the ability to impact games amd change field position and those are huge. If long snapper is just a fraction why not have Harrison or Timmons do it? ST's is 1/3 of a football game and I think Logan should stick around for one more year.
                    Felt what i'm saying is that there comes a point where your special teams guys have to be able to step on the field and produce at some other position. If Hines or Wallace were to go down who would you rather enter the rotation? Some positions like long snapper are too important to have another position player do.

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                    • birtikidis
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 4628

                      #25
                      Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                      and with the fact that Wallace is our only young stud of a receiver, we have to develop these young guys. Logan is 29, his ceiling is not high and the amount of time that he'll be around is a detriment.

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                      • focosteeler
                        Starter
                        • May 2010
                        • 760

                        #26
                        Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                        sylvestor was a steal where we got him...he is a baller

                        maybe its just me...every time i see pouncey i cant get over how skinny he looks i know he is over 300, its just strange looking to me
                        1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
                        2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
                        3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
                        4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
                        5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
                        6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
                        7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340

                        UDFA
                        DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
                        OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16041

                          #27
                          Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                          Originally posted by Crash
                          Wallace led the league in YPC last season. I don't think Leftwich played with us, right?

                          This whole notion that Ben doesn't have a deep ball or can't throw deep is laughable.

                          He struggled with his deep ball when he was wearing gloves in 2004 and 2005.

                          For his CAREER? Ben's deep ball ranks with the league's best.

                          Look it up.
                          .
                          Nobody in this thread said Ben cant throw it deep. But Ben, heck EVERY QB INCLUDING LEFTWICH last week routinely underthrows Wallace when he runs the deep route.
                          Even when the pass is complete, Wallace who gets WAY behind the defender must often slow down allowing the defender to close before making the catch.

                          I also thought "finally" a perfect bomb to Wallace.

                          That was the best in stride deep ball to Wallace yet. That is a simple fact.

                          That is no threat to Ben who is a MUCH better QB. Bens pinpoint sideline throw to Wallace against Green Bay....amazingly reminiscent of the SB.

                          But I do hope that Ben can learn to hit Wallace in stride with regularity because I have NEVER seen a Steeler who could simply blow by corners with pure speed like Wallace can. Frankly I believe Ben is simply used to slow receivers. Perhaps THAT in why you hate Hines.

                          Bens high YPA is largely because he throws fewer SHORT passes. Ben also extends plays which results in receivers getting open deeper than the original route.

                          Ben is extremely accurate when the receiver is cutting across the field, even relatively deep. That is why he likes guys basically zig zagging after having run the designed route. Nobody is as good at hitting receivers in that situation.

                          But even before Wallace, hitting receivers in stride deep who are running straight up-field is not his strength.
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                          • SanAntonioSteelerFan
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 8361

                            #28
                            Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                            Originally posted by birtikidis
                            Seps kicks had slightly longer hangtime. they may not have been deeper, but it seemed like our boys got down there sooner. and they seemed a bit higher.
                            I think you're right ...

                            I wonder if it's possible that kicking "too much" could hurt Sep's reconstructed knee? Probably not, or they wouldn't be giving him these looks at kicking off.

                            I really liked his tacking!


                            We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

                            HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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                            • Captain Lemming
                              Legend
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 16041

                              #29
                              Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              I don't think it's fair to say a KR is a fraction of the game. How many times will Brown see the field as a WR this year? A fraction of a fraction? LOL.

                              I still think Logan has the ability to impact games amd change field position and those are huge. If long snapper is just a fraction why not have Harrison or Timmons do it? ST's is 1/3 of a football game and I think Logan should stick around for one more year.
                              I dont think we need to choose. I'd keep both rooks and Logan and dump ARE myself. I see both younguns as having better upside than ARE at his peak. Unless of course we intend to have him throwing passes like he used to.
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                              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                              TCFCLTC-
                              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                              • birtikidis
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 4628

                                #30
                                Re: Thoughts??? Preseason Game 2

                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                I don't think it's fair to say a KR is a fraction of the game. How many times will Brown see the field as a WR this year? A fraction of a fraction? LOL.

                                I still think Logan has the ability to impact games amd change field position and those are huge. If long snapper is just a fraction why not have Harrison or Timmons do it? ST's is 1/3 of a football game and I think Logan should stick around for one more year.
                                I dont think we need to choose. I'd keep both rooks and Logan and dump ARE myself. I see both younguns as having better upside than ARE at his peak. Unless of course we intend to have him throwing passes like he used to.
                                The only thing ARE really brings to the table is insurance if Hines Goes down. He's the most familiar with the playbook and would be able to step into a starting role with less chance of making a lot of mental mistakes.

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