You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

[Captain Lemming]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

Wait? You mean I was right when I said black media made this about race?

How can that be? I supposedly haven't revolved since the Trib board.

Actually, Crash, YOU made it about race in THIS forum.

Any time something like this happens extremist views on BOTH SIDES start screaming race. I heard a guy on the podcast 3 guys and a mic (same network as Steel Curtain Radio) stupidly and prematurely imply that Ben was going to "get off easy" because of race. The guy was black and he was WRONG. Had he said it HERE I would rip him just like I did you Crash.

I ripped HehateMe here for bias when he brought up race in his anti Ben comments.

He accused "me" of defending Ben because of my "white" bias when I am in fact black.

I dont take sides based on race. You do. You did since the trib board.

You and the individual "black media" (not all black media is the same) members, those you criticize who want Ben's head, are no different, both equally biased, both wrong. You are just on different sides blaming the race boogieman way too quickly.

[siss]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If the Rooney's had suspended Ben, he very easily could have appealed it to the NFLPA. Instead they gave it to a higher up and let them deal with it. And as I have said, if it causes him to re-examine his life then so what. He had to have more then a slap on the wrist, it had to hurt him and it sounds like that is exactly what has happened. I believe his agent has said that Ben wants to make this a positive turning point in his life.
If you have a child who gets in trouble they will have two consequences. 1. is the natural consequence (i.e for Ben the embarrassment and the fans reaction) 2. is the one you hand out (for Ben its the suspension). And no matter what happens you have to make them learn their lesson no matter how hard it is to watch, other wise it has no meaning or baring on their decision making in the future. Ben HAS to make a decision. Is he going to clean up his life or is he going to continue? There is a lot at stack if he doesn't, but at least by having the suspension so harsh, NO ONE can say they didn't try to reach him.
It does not matter to me what the commish does with other players. I care about my franchise QB and his ability to be on the field. And if it has to hurt us for the first few games of one season then so be it. I want Ben to be on the field in black and gold a whole lot longer then one season.
The thing about Ben is that I have heard some really great stories and some really awful stories. I think that some are exaggerated greatly. If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children. And I don't know him or pretend to know him, but he seems to be a decent guy.
Now for Ben's part he has been contrite. I mean he admitted that he got caught up in what was happening to him. I don't think any one of us can pretend to understand what that is like. Or know that the same thing wouldn't happen to us if we were in that same situation. Only time will really tell. And if it doesn't then Ben won't be a steeler anymore. But I think we are all rooting for him to get his life straight so it doesn't effect his ability to play anymore.
And for the record I do not believe that Ben is guilty of anything but bad decisions.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If the Rooney's had suspended Ben, he very easily could have appealed it to the NFLPA. Instead they gave it to a higher up and let them deal with it. And as I have said, if it causes him to re-examine his life then so what. He had to have more then a slap on the wrist, it had to hurt him and it sounds like that is exactly what has happened. I believe his agent has said that Ben wants to make this a positive turning point in his life.
If you have a child who gets in trouble they will have two consequences. 1. is the natural consequence (i.e for Ben the embarrassment and the fans reaction) 2. is the one you hand out (for Ben its the suspension). And no matter what happens you have to make them learn their lesson no matter how hard it is to watch, other wise it has no meaning or baring on their decision making in the future. Ben HAS to make a decision. Is he going to clean up his life or is he going to continue? There is a lot at stack if he doesn't, but at least by having the suspension so harsh, NO ONE can say they didn't try to reach him.
It does not matter to me what the commish does with other players. I care about my franchise QB and his ability to be on the field. And if it has to hurt us for the first few games of one season then so be it. I want Ben to be on the field in black and gold a whole lot longer then one season.
The thing about Ben is that I have heard some really great stories and some really awful stories. I think that some are exaggerated greatly. If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children. And I don't know him or pretend to know him, but he seems to be a decent guy.
Now for Ben's part he has been contrite. I mean he admitted that he got caught up in what was happening to him. I don't think any one of us can pretend to understand what that is like. Or know that the same thing wouldn't happen to us if we were in that same situation. Only time will really tell. And if it doesn't then Ben won't be a steeler anymore. But I think we are all rooting for him to get his life straight so it doesn't effect his ability to play anymore.
And for the record I do not believe that Ben is guilty of anything but bad decisions.

NICE.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children.

Not necessarily contradictory. If the first is true, he might have a "heart of gold when it comes to children" because HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HIS.
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist).

[siss]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If the Rooney's had suspended Ben, he very easily could have appealed it to the NFLPA. Instead they gave it to a higher up and let them deal with it. And as I have said, if it causes him to re-examine his life then so what. He had to have more then a slap on the wrist, it had to hurt him and it sounds like that is exactly what has happened. I believe his agent has said that Ben wants to make this a positive turning point in his life.
If you have a child who gets in trouble they will have two consequences. 1. is the natural consequence (i.e for Ben the embarrassment and the fans reaction) 2. is the one you hand out (for Ben its the suspension). And no matter what happens you have to make them learn their lesson no matter how hard it is to watch, other wise it has no meaning or baring on their decision making in the future. Ben HAS to make a decision. Is he going to clean up his life or is he going to continue? There is a lot at stack if he doesn't, but at least by having the suspension so harsh, NO ONE can say they didn't try to reach him.
It does not matter to me what the commish does with other players. I care about my franchise QB and his ability to be on the field. And if it has to hurt us for the first few games of one season then so be it. I want Ben to be on the field in black and gold a whole lot longer then one season.
The thing about Ben is that I have heard some really great stories and some really awful stories. I think that some are exaggerated greatly. If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children. And I don't know him or pretend to know him, but he seems to be a decent guy.
Now for Ben's part he has been contrite. I mean he admitted that he got caught up in what was happening to him. I don't think any one of us can pretend to understand what that is like. Or know that the same thing wouldn't happen to us if we were in that same situation. Only time will really tell. And if it doesn't then Ben won't be a steeler anymore. But I think we are all rooting for him to get his life straight so it doesn't effect his ability to play anymore.
And for the record I do not believe that Ben is guilty of anything but bad decisions.

NICE.

what does that mean?

[siss]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children.

Not necessarily contradictory. If the first is true, he might have a "heart of gold when it comes to children" because HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HIS.
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist).

The ones that are his have the nice tight spiral!

[Captain Lemming]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If the Rooney's had suspended Ben, he very easily could have appealed it to the NFLPA. Instead they gave it to a higher up and let them deal with it. And as I have said, if it causes him to re-examine his life then so what. He had to have more then a slap on the wrist, it had to hurt him and it sounds like that is exactly what has happened. I believe his agent has said that Ben wants to make this a positive turning point in his life.
If you have a child who gets in trouble they will have two consequences. 1. is the natural consequence (i.e for Ben the embarrassment and the fans reaction) 2. is the one you hand out (for Ben its the suspension). And no matter what happens you have to make them learn their lesson no matter how hard it is to watch, other wise it has no meaning or baring on their decision making in the future. Ben HAS to make a decision. Is he going to clean up his life or is he going to continue? There is a lot at stack if he doesn't, but at least by having the suspension so harsh, NO ONE can say they didn't try to reach him.
It does not matter to me what the commish does with other players. I care about my franchise QB and his ability to be on the field. And if it has to hurt us for the first few games of one season then so be it. I want Ben to be on the field in black and gold a whole lot longer then one season.
The thing about Ben is that I have heard some really great stories and some really awful stories. I think that some are exaggerated greatly. If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children. And I don't know him or pretend to know him, but he seems to be a decent guy.
Now for Ben's part he has been contrite. I mean he admitted that he got caught up in what was happening to him. I don't think any one of us can pretend to understand what that is like. Or know that the same thing wouldn't happen to us if we were in that same situation. Only time will really tell. And if it doesn't then Ben won't be a steeler anymore. But I think we are all rooting for him to get his life straight so it doesn't effect his ability to play anymore.
And for the record I do not believe that Ben is guilty of anything but bad decisions.

NICE.

what does that mean?

It means

[flippy]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children.

Not necessarily contradictory. If the first is true, he might have a "heart of gold when it comes to children" because HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HIS.
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist).

The white ones are his. The black ones are Santonio's.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

If you listen to some he has slept with half of the ladies of Pittsburgh. But he also seems to have a heart of gold when it comes to children.

Not necessarily contradictory. If the first is true, he might have a "heart of gold when it comes to children" because HE DOESN'T KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HIS.
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist).

The white ones are his. The black ones are Santonio's.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

Vince Young will meet with Roger Goodell soon, but suspension is unlikely

Posted by Mike Florio on June 27, 2010





Amid strong indications that Vince Young's prayers could be answered via the avoidance of a suspension, Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com reports that Young soon will meet with Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Specifically, Goodell said at the annual Rookie Symposium in L.A. that the meeting will occur "sometime in next few weeks."

Young faces misdemeanor assault charges arising from an incident earlier this month at a Dallas strip club. But the precedent for a first-offense misdemeanor assault currently stands at no suspension, given the experiences of linebacker Joey Porter and receiver Braylon Edwards, who reportedly won't be suspended in the wake of a 2009 assault allegation to which he pleaded no contest.

The league office fined Porter the amount of a game check, and our guess is that Edwards -- and Young -- will face the same sanction, unless Goodell decides to hold quarterbacks to a higher standard.

Though he said, per Marvez, that a suspension of Young is unlikely, Goodell explained that each case stands on its own.

"I think you have to look at these cases individually and understand them in a way of what are the issues going on with any individual," Goodell said. "The intent of the [Personal Conduct Policy] is to intervene so you help some individuals make a better decision and avoid these troubles. So when I sit down and look at all the facts around Vince or any other player, you want to make sure they understand that and what the policy was designed to do and more importantly understand the responsibility [of being an NFL player]."

In Young's case, it won't take long to look at the facts, because the facts appear in one of the highest-quality surveillance videos we've ever seen.

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