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  • Captain Lemming
    Legend
    • Jun 2008
    • 16063

    You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

    On another thread, among much I disagree with Oviedo made the following statement that is dead on accurate:
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    While Goodel was the hatchet man don't underestimate the influence of the Rooney's in Ben's punishment. They gave the commish the greenlight to make an example out of Ben. Do you think Jerry Jones would have been so agreeable to throwing away 25% of their season to the commish to make a statement? Dan Snyder? Al Davis?
    To the extent that any disparity exists I believe this is the basis.

    Goodell met with Rooney, it is common knowledge Rooney WANTED to punish Ben, and it was stated at the time repeatedly that the union would have a strong case if Rooney suspended Ben.

    Goodell absolutely wanted to make an example of Ben. Say what you want about whether or not "changes" were levied Goodell isnt about "justice" he cares about "notoriety". That affects how the league is "perceived". That can affect the bottom line, that can affect popularity. That was the entire point of his statement about Ben.

    With Rooneys backing, even encouragement, and Ben frankly acting like he knew he deserved whatever he got, clearly uninterested in fighting it, the setting WAS IDEAL to make an example out of Ben.

    Frankly it is EASY to understand why Goodell stuck it to Ben. Its not about "black" not about "white". It is about "green".

    And everyone who potentially might have fought it, was not going to fight it. Rooney almost certainly ENCOURAGED it.

    It was the PERFECT SETTING for Goodell too make an example out of one of the leagues BIGGEST stars.

    Like Rooney, that I believe it is just what Ben needed to grow up.

    Bens "fearlessness" on the field is what makes him great. It is that same tendancy that makes him take stupid risks. I believe he is better off in the long run.

    Steeler fans if you want somebody to blame, blame the owner of your team.

    I say thank you Mr Rooney.

    I really believe Ben will learn to stop putting himself in risky situations, be a better player and person and bring us MORE rings. I say any other view is short sighted.
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    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #2
    Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

    If he truly learns his lesson from all of this, losing him for a month isn't a massive price to pay in the long run. Frankly, it's better than doing nothing, and losing him for good if another incident were to occur. This should be the slap in the face he needs to ensure that these types of situations cannot occur again.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Ozey74
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 2091

      #3
      Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

      I think this suspension is what he needs. If he doesn't learn from this, he never will. I hope we can go 2-2 without him & he can return after the bye week.

      I am not too concerned about him losing 1st team reps in training camp. He didn't have many first team reps in training camp his rookie year and that seemed to work out for him OK that season.

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      AS-5/2008

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35650

        #4
        Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

        I thought it was because Ben is white?

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        • NJ-STEELER
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 12563

          #5
          Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

          while i agree with the original staement


          i think the message would have been sent with just a 2 game suspension or a 4 game one brought down to 2 after 'good behavior'

          if the league was privy to all the infowe've learned about afterwards and not just the media lynching that was done after the DA spoke, i see no reason why they ddidn't give him less of a suspension

          espceically in the wake of others players getting in trouble and nothing being done by the commish

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          • flippy
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 17088

            #6
            Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

            So it was the "green" aliens and not the "black" african americans?
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            • plainnasty
              Backup
              • May 2008
              • 191

              #7
              Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

              Frankly it is EASY to understand why Goodell stuck it to Ben. Its not about "black" not about "white". It is about "green".

              And everyone who potentially might have fought it, was not going to fight it. Rooney almost certainly ENCOURAGED it.
              I wouldn't be so quick to write off the influence and pressure from the black community.
              If Roethlisberger were black, he'd be crucified

              [url="http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2010/03/11/opinion/doc4b986ba05d221449192942.txt"]http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2010 ... 192942.txt[/url]

              Ben Roethlisberger should be thanking the heavens that he is white. If he was Ben the black guy accused of sexual assault in Georgia, he might not even make it to trial.

              [url="http://www.edgeofsports.com/2010-04-20-519/index.html"]http://www.edgeofsports.com/2010-04-20-519/index.html[/url]

              People ask me all the time, “is there a race element to this?”

              If Donovan McNabb had been accused twice of sexual assault, would the reporting be the same?

              Would there have been an Outside the Lines special?

              Would it have taken four hours for it to be reported in the mainstream media?

              [url="http://blacksportsonline.com/home/index.php/2010/03/the-media-hypocrisy-in-the-case-of-ben-roethlisberger/"]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/index ... lisberger/[/url]

              Ben Roethlisberger and Tiger Woods: Does the media cover white athletes more favorably?

              [url="http://www.examiner.com/x-17321-AfricanAmerican-Sports-Examiner~y2010m4d19-Ben-Roethlisberger-and-Tiger-Woods-Does-the-media-cover-white-athletes-more-favorably"]http://www.examiner.com/x-17321-African ... -favorably[/url]
              As for Rooney encouraging the suspension, maybe, but not 6 games.

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              • Crash
                Legend
                • Apr 2009
                • 5008

                #8
                Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                Wait? You mean I was right when I said black media made this about race?

                How can that be? I supposedly haven't revolved since the Trib board.

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27568

                  #9
                  Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                  Originally posted by Crash
                  Wait? You mean I was right when I said black media made this about race?

                  How can that be? I supposedly haven't revolved since the Trib board.
                  Captain Lemming is one man with one opinion. Oh, and Rooney isn't black.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Flasteel
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4008

                    #10
                    Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                    I think white, quarterback, and high-profile all played some role in the outcome. I also agree with Ruthless and think that this might be the shot across his bow which which helps him in the long run.

                    I certainly don't like the suspension and disagree with the length, but hopefully it serves it's purpose and we can get through the first four games just fine.
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                    • Crash
                      Legend
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #11
                      Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                      I disagree. If anything this would make Ben realize that Goodell doesn't care about Ben's well-being at all.

                      He suspends Ben, convicts him in his own kangaroo court. Instead of supporting him, backing him, he allowed a premiere player to be raked over the coals by the media. Made him an out cast.

                      But he'll also make sure to exploit Ben's return by placing the Steelers on Prime Time TV five times in 10 weeks when he returns.

                      It's not about helping Ben. It's about what he can get out of him.

                      If the media would have preached due process? Ben isn't suspended.

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                        Seems to me that when this team has high expectations (coming off Super Bowls when the world is their oyster), they disappoint. And when expectations are low, they surprise everyone and are true championship contenders (and championship winners for that matter). After this suspension, Ben won't come out feeling entitled as if he has the world on a string...he'll come out with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.

                        People are predicting that the Ravens and Bengals will fight for supremacy in this division, while the poor old Steelers without their QB for at least a month are a 3rd place afterthought. It's times like these when the team tends to perform its best...to disprove everyone who thinks that we don't own this division anymore and aren't a legit threat to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. I expect the guys to come out with a "screw that" attitude and will show people what the Pittsburgh Steelers are all about.

                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16063

                          #13
                          Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Originally posted by Crash
                          Wait? You mean I was right when I said black media made this about race?

                          How can that be? I supposedly haven't revolved since the Trib board.
                          Captain Lemming is one man with one opinion. Oh, and Rooney isn't black.
                          Dizz, please READ what "I" wrote before commenting.
                          Crash was not at all agreeing with what "I" said.

                          The thread was started to disprove Crash's silly assertion.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 16063

                            #14
                            Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            Seems to me that when this team has high expectations (coming off Super Bowls when the world is their oyster), they disappoint. And when expectations are low, they surprise everyone and are true championship contenders (and championship winners for that matter). After this suspension, Ben won't come out feeling entitled as if he has the world on a string...he'll come out with a chip on his shoulder with something to prove.

                            People are predicting that the Ravens and Bengals will fight for supremacy in this division, while the poor old Steelers without their QB for at least a month are a 3rd place afterthought. It's times like these when the team tends to perform its best...to disprove everyone who thinks that we don't own this division anymore and aren't a legit threat to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. I expect the guys to come out with a "screw that" attitude and will show people what the Pittsburgh Steelers are all about.

                            sigpic



                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Crash
                              Legend
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5008

                              #15
                              Re: You wanna know why Ben got suspended?

                              The thread was started to disprove Crash's silly assertion.
                              You mean fact.

                              Like I said, look all over the web for Goodell to "treat Ben like Pac Man and Vick".

                              You guys know what that implies.

                              Don't be ignorant.

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