Jonathan Dwyer

[Steel Life]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

Dwyer's big fall was related to four things...

1. Positive Drug Test - Though his agent told every team that Dwyer was on meds for ADD, teams shied away from him.
2. Slow 40 Times - At one point he was clocked as slow as 4.74 for SI's Tony Pauline. He ran better at the combine (4.59) but looked somewhat out of shape & only put up 15 reps.
3. Triple-Option - Some teams didn't like him because they feared his conversion to a I-Formation pro-set attack & attributed his college totals to running out of a freak offense.
4. Small Hands/Big Belly - Dwyer's college coach went on record saying that controlling his weight was an issue. Dwyer also has small hands leading to concerns about ball-security.

[skyhawk]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

I hope his speed translates well in the pros. It appears the Steelers got themselves a late round steal.

Just finished watching the 1998 Broncos on NFLN. Terrel Davis - 6th round pick -- 2008 yards. Dang!!

Nothing against Terrell Davis but he had the best line in football for a couple years.

The Steelers OTOH don't have a line anywhere close, and no FB, and to top it off, Bruce Arians. Dwyer better be really good.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

3. Triple-Option - Some teams didn't like him because they feared his conversion to a I-Formation pro-set attack & attributed his college totals to running out of a freak offense.

That's fine, because apparently Bruce Arians is allergic to an I-Formation pro-set attack.

[aggiebones]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

"I think the critical runs, short-yardage, goal line, have been a problem," Arians said. "They got addressed (in 200 with Gary Russell. Now is it going to be Rashard? It could be Isaac Redman, it could be by a bunch of guys. Is it a back or is it by committee? This time of year you get your running game going, but in training camp you find out that short-yardage stuff. You win the job that way."


No mention of him.

And frankly that's the way it should be. He'll have to earn his name in lights. Again, nothing against him and I'm not saying he doesn't have an equal chance, but the hype is crazy. Everyone needs to simmer down on this kid and not expect too much out of him. He will not be ready to help carry any load for us in the first quarter of the year. And if that is true, then he likely won't help at all unless injuries occur. He may well be on the PS and come on next year. Who knows?

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

"I think the critical runs, short-yardage, goal line, have been a problem," Arians said. "They got addressed (in 200 with Gary Russell. Now is it going to be Rashard? It could be Isaac Redman, it could be by a bunch of guys. Is it a back or is it by committee? This time of year you get your running game going, but in training camp you find out that short-yardage stuff. You win the job that way."


No mention of him.

And frankly that's the way it should be. He'll have to earn his name in lights. Again, nothing against him and I'm not saying he doesn't have an equal chance, but the hype is crazy. Everyone needs to simmer down on this kid and not expect too much out of him. He will not be ready to help carry any load for us in the first quarter of the year. And if that is true, then he likely won't help at all unless injuries occur. He may well be on the PS and come on next year. Who knows?

I liked what Tomlin said when asked about how Dwyer has looked in the OTA's, saying that he is a rookie, and they are practicing in shorts. We won't start to know what we have in any of these guys until they put the pads on in Latrobe.

[jj28west]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

A lot of good points here. Believe me I am far from a scout as can be. I'll admit I really saw Bruce Davis as bulking up a little and making a major impact by year two. The kid could not even make Special Teams.

What I did was took all of our draft picks and FA's and read & watched everything I could find. What stuck out was Dwyer. If you read some off the fans websites and blogs of other teams in that conference that Dwyer played in you get a pretty common theme in respect and acknowledgement that he was a top tier RB.

I know a lot of the clips show gaping holes made by the Oline but even from these highlights he showed a little bit of everything including aggressiveness and assertaviness.

He also has not played a down yet and it looks as if I crowned him to be HOF material. In two years we shall see how he grades.

[cruzer8]

Re: Jonathan Dwyer

"I think the critical runs, short-yardage, goal line, have been a problem," Arians said. "They got addressed (in 200 with Gary Russell. Now is it going to be Rashard? It could be Isaac Redman, it could be by a bunch of guys. Is it a back or is it by committee? This time of year you get your running game going, but in training camp you find out that short-yardage stuff. You win the job that way."


No mention of him.

And frankly that's the way it should be. He'll have to earn his name in lights. Again, nothing against him and I'm not saying he doesn't have an equal chance, but the hype is crazy. Everyone needs to simmer down on this kid and not expect too much out of him. He will not be ready to help carry any load for us in the first quarter of the year. And if that is true, then he likely won't help at all unless injuries occur. He may well be on the PS and come on next year. Who knows?

People need to simmer down about Redman.

He's the one who will be on the PS. Dwyer will be on the 53 man roster.