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  • jj28west
    Starter
    • Dec 2008
    • 784

    Jonathan Dwyer

    Guys,

    I still cant get over this pick. I am suprised there has not been an investigation on how the Steelers landed him. I know he is alittle raw with respect to a pro style offense given that he ran in some kind of wishbone at Georgia Tech but the upside is ridiculous on this guy.

    He is still a junior so this 1st year under BA's tutelage will probably limit his plays until he is able to pick up the blitz, etc.

    I know youtube can hype anyone to look all world but there is a ton of film on this guy that really impresses. Its the small things that I notice that he does where you either have it or dont because it cant be taught.

    If you get a chance watch how he decisive he is when hitting the hole and getting the most out of every run by falling forward. He could run over you & shed tackles too and last but not least he is able to go lateral and dance a little if there is simply nothing there if a play gets blown up. He sets up blocks and has been able to outrun 2nd level defenders.

    OK maybe I have too much of a man crush on this guy but this type of RB is special. I admit I did not see too much of him at GTech but hopefully there are some GT or ACC people here that could have some input on how he performed against FSU, VTech, Virginia.
    I loved Willie but he really needed space to excel and be effective. This Dwyer kid will make space or at least be decisive and strong enough to split defenders. Could you imagine Pouncey, Kemo pulling and that big FB blasting through with Jonathan at 6'1" right behind that. This may be like the good old days where we told you we were going to run and we ran at will with the bus to run out the clock.

    Come on BA optimize these skilled players.
  • SanAntonioSteelerFan
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 8361

    #2
    Re: Jonathan Dwyer

    Originally posted by jj28west
    Guys,

    I still cant get over this pick. I am suprised there has not been an investigation on how the Steelers landed him. I know he is alittle raw with respect to a pro style offense given that he ran in some kind of wishbone at Georgia Tech but the upside is ridiculous on this guy.

    He is still a junior so this 1st year under BA's tutelage will probably limit his plays until he is able to pick up the blitz, etc.

    I know youtube can hype anyone to look all world but there is a ton of film on this guy that really impresses. Its the small things that I notice that he does where you either have it or dont because it cant be taught.

    If you get a chance watch how he decisive he is when hitting the hole and getting the most out of every run by falling forward. He could run over you & shed tackles too and last but not least he is able to go lateral and dance a little if there is simply nothing there if a play gets blown up. He sets up blocks and has been able to outrun 2nd level defenders.

    OK maybe I have too much of a man crush on this guy but this type of RB is special. I admit I did not see too much of him at GTech but hopefully there are some GT or ACC people here that could have some input on how he performed against FSU, VTech, Virginia.
    I loved Willie but he really needed space to excel and be effective. This Dwyer kid will make space or at least be decisive and strong enough to split defenders. Could you imagine Pouncey, Kemo pulling and that big FB blasting through with Jonathan at 6'1" right behind that. This may be like the good old days where we told you we were going to run and we ran at will with the bus to run out the clock.

    Come on BA optimize these skilled players.
    Dang, you got me all riled up reading this post. Woooooooo!!!


    We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

    HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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    • BURGH86STEEL
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6921

      #3
      Re: Jonathan Dwyer

      I hope his speed translates well in the pros. It appears the Steelers got themselves a late round steal.

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      • SanAntonioSteelerFan
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 8361

        #4
        Re: Jonathan Dwyer

        Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
        I hope his speed translates well in the pros. It appears the Steelers got themselves a late round steal.
        Just finished watching the 1998 Broncos on NFLN. Terrel Davis - 6th round pick -- 2008 yards. Dang!!


        We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

        HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #5
          Re: Jonathan Dwyer

          I see no reason Dwyer shouldn't be a good #2 for us. He is a one cut runner with patience and decisiveness. His running style was very similar to Maurice Clarett. Patience is the most underrated trait of a great runner. He doesn't quite have Clarett's (yes I'm talking about the preinsane college Clarett...please dont give me a hard time ) power or first step quickness but shows the other intangibles that I love in a back.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35649

            #6
            Re: Jonathan Dwyer

            Originally posted by Shawn
            I see no reason Dwyer shouldn't be a good #2 for us. He is a one cut runner with patience and decisiveness. His running style was very similar to Maurice Clarett. Patience is the most underrated trait of a great runner. He doesn't quite have Clarett's (yes I'm talking about the preinsane college Clarett...please dont give me a hard time ) power or first step quickness but shows the other intangibles that I love in a back.

            Maurice Clarett?

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            • jj28west
              Starter
              • Dec 2008
              • 784

              #7
              Re: Jonathan Dwyer

              There is a lot of contradiction on what his weaknesses are. Some feel he is too soft to run inside. I see unquenchable emotion and "kill or be killed" attitude & desire. Tell me this does not fire you up here in May.

              Granted that these are lighter DB's and one team was Duke but check this out

              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M[/url]

              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1[/url]

              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT9u0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT ... re=related[/url]

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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35649

                #8
                Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                Originally posted by jj28west
                There is a lot of contradiction on what his weaknesses are. Some feel he is too soft to run inside. I see unquenchable emotion and "kill or be killed" attitude & desire. Tell me this does not fire you up here in May.

                Granted that these are lighter DB's and one team was Duke but check this out

                [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M[/url]

                [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1[/url]

                [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT9u0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT ... re=related[/url]

                gotta admit, all 3 of those videos were impressive, albeit against college DBs. however, let's see how Dwyer stacks up against NFL LBers before we anoint him as anything more than this pre-season's Isaac "Redzone" Redman.

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                • Shawn
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  #9
                  Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                  Don't start H.

                  OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.
                  Trolls are people too.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    #10
                    Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Don't start H.

                    OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

                    my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P


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                    • Captain Lemming
                      Legend
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 16041

                      #11
                      Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                      Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
                      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                      I hope his speed translates well in the pros. It appears the Steelers got themselves a late round steal.
                      Just finished watching the 1998 Broncos on NFLN. Terrel Davis - 6th round pick -- 2008 yards. Dang!!
                      6th rounder played college ball in.......Georgia.
                      sigpic



                      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                      TCFCLTC-
                      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                      • BradshawsHairdresser
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 7056

                        #12
                        Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                        Originally posted by jj28west
                        Guys,

                        I still cant get over this pick. I am suprised there has not been an investigation on how the Steelers landed him. I know he is alittle raw with respect to a pro style offense given that he ran in some kind of wishbone at Georgia Tech but the upside is ridiculous on this guy.

                        He is still a junior so this 1st year under BA's tutelage will probably limit his plays until he is able to pick up the blitz, etc.

                        I know youtube can hype anyone to look all world but there is a ton of film on this guy that really impresses. Its the small things that I notice that he does where you either have it or dont because it cant be taught.

                        If you get a chance watch how he decisive he is when hitting the hole and getting the most out of every run by falling forward. He could run over you & shed tackles too and last but not least he is able to go lateral and dance a little if there is simply nothing there if a play gets blown up. He sets up blocks and has been able to outrun 2nd level defenders.

                        OK maybe I have too much of a man crush on this guy but this type of RB is special. I admit I did not see too much of him at GTech but hopefully there are some GT or ACC people here that could have some input on how he performed against FSU, VTech, Virginia.
                        I loved Willie but he really needed space to excel and be effective. This Dwyer kid will make space or at least be decisive and strong enough to split defenders. Could you imagine Pouncey, Kemo pulling and that big FB blasting through with Jonathan at 6'1" right behind that. This may be like the good old days where we told you we were going to run and we ran at will with the bus to run out the clock.

                        Come on BA optimize these skilled players.
                        You had me going with excitement until I read that last sentence. Is this not the same guy who threw 40+ times in the cold wind vs. Cleveland?

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #13
                          Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                          Originally posted by jj28west
                          There is a lot of contradiction on what his weaknesses are. Some feel he is too soft to run inside. I see unquenchable emotion and "kill or be killed" attitude & desire. Tell me this does not fire you up here in May.

                          Granted that these are lighter DB's and one team was Duke but check this out

                          [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M[/url]

                          [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1[/url]

                          [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT9u0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT ... re=related[/url]
                          That last one had Steeler RB draft pick Jonathan Dwyer trucking Viking CB draft pick Chris Cook.

                          Perhaps a repeat of that in the pros could make up for Viking RB Adrian Peterson trucking Steeler CB William Gay last year.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            Don't start H.

                            OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

                            my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P


                            Yeah, but Robert Smith wears too much make-up...and he's kind of moody.

                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • frankthetank1
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 2755

                              #15
                              Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                              Originally posted by jj28west
                              There is a lot of contradiction on what his weaknesses are. Some feel he is too soft to run inside. I see unquenchable emotion and "kill or be killed" attitude & desire. Tell me this does not fire you up here in May.

                              Granted that these are lighter DB's and one team was Duke but check this out

                              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UMcC_5EN5M[/url]

                              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLIiq1CmMQ&NR=1[/url]

                              [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT9u0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ms_cdT ... re=related[/url]
                              im not worried at all about dwyer's ability to run inside. i think the biggest improvements he will have to make is picking up the blitz and all of the small things. it obviously took mendy a season or so to fine tune his game to coach T's liking. most #1 rb's in college rarely have to pick up blitzes or block ever. i agree though dwyer was an absolute steal. i much rather have dwyer than gerhart. does anyone know why dwyer slipped so much in the draft? i know it was a good draft for rb's but still, 6th round?

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