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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #16
    Re: Jonathan Dwyer

    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    Originally posted by Shawn
    Don't start H.

    OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

    my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P


    Solid pick. I believe he had neurosurgical aspirations for life after football at one time. The dude was sharp and very fast. He was a long strider but when he hit second gear no one could catch him. Personally, I would pick George or even Wells over Smith but I like power backs. But, if given a choice from just a pure athletic stand point...I take Clarett without hesitation. I have never seen someone so successful behind one of the worst lines in OSU history. You can look at his youtube highlights...as a freshman he was better than George as a senior. And those highlights don't show the little things he did well such as always fall foward and the ability to pick up yards play after play with no hole.

    Back to the original subject Dwyer shows some of those traits I loved in Clarett. I think Dwyer when all is said and done will go down as a huge steal.
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    • MaxAMillion
      Backup
      • Dec 2008
      • 439

      #17
      Re: Jonathan Dwyer

      I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

      I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
      The Steelers’ went through seven consecutive drafts (2003-09) without taking an offensive lineman in the first two rounds, the longest such streak by any franchise this century.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #18
        Re: Jonathan Dwyer

        Originally posted by MaxAMillion
        I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

        I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
        Dont get me wrong when I say I like power backs. I was not a Bettis fan...maybe the only Steeler fan who wasn't. I don't like one dimensional backs of any sort but prefer power to moves chains to home run hitting speed.

        I believe Mendenhall could end up being my favorite. I like a back who can do it all...LT types. Mendenhall fits that mold. And unless Dwyer develops more well rounded skills will always be a #2 in my mind. With that said, having a true power back at #2 is a wonderful addition to any football squad.
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        • birtikidis
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4628

          #19
          Re: Jonathan Dwyer

          Originally posted by MaxAMillion
          I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

          I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
          you mean that 1 season when we won super bowl 43... Ben had a good season leading up to super bowl 40, but he wasn't the reason we got there (a big part of it, but not the only).
          myself I prefer the good old days when we had foster and odonell and a damn good balanced attack.
          I hated having a Sh!tty qb when we had bettis in his prime as much as the next guy, but we would never have been in position to win those games without bettis.

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          • steelernation77
            Backup
            • Jul 2008
            • 343

            #20
            Re: Jonathan Dwyer

            Originally posted by Shawn
            Originally posted by MaxAMillion
            I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

            I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
            I was not a Bettis fan..
            Heresy.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #21
              Re: Jonathan Dwyer

              Originally posted by steelernation77
              Originally posted by Shawn
              Originally posted by MaxAMillion
              I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

              I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
              I was not a Bettis fan..
              Heresy.
              I always get raped over that statement lol. I think my issue with Bettis wasn't as much about Bettis was the fact that we used him so much. It was probably more of an issue with the offense in general. I hate one dimensional backs and O's.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #22
                Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                looking foard to seeing what johnny D can bring to the steelers

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                • isonator07
                  Backup
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 341

                  #23
                  Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Don't start H.

                  OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

                  my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P




                  Archie Griffin was pretty good.

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                  • birtikidis
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4628

                    #24
                    Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Originally posted by steelernation77
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Originally posted by MaxAMillion
                    I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

                    I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
                    I was not a Bettis fan..
                    Heresy.
                    I always get raped over that statement lol. I think my issue with Bettis wasn't as much about Bettis was the fact that we used him so much. It was probably more of an issue with the offense in general. I hate one dimensional backs and O's.
                    just think how good that offense would have been if we had a good qb in bettis' prime..

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #25
                      Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                      Originally posted by isonator07
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      Don't start H.

                      OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

                      my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P




                      Archie Griffin was pretty good.
                      Griffin was a product of a massive OL and a coach who ran the ball. After he thought about passing...he ran the ball some more. Griffin might be the most overrated running back in college history. I don't even place him in the top 5 at OSU from a talent stand point. When he went to the pros he proved that he was a product of a running system and a beastly OL.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • Shawn
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        #26
                        Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                        Originally posted by birtikidis
                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        Originally posted by steelernation77
                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        Originally posted by MaxAMillion
                        I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.

                        I do agree that Dwyer has a chance to be a good NFL running back.
                        I was not a Bettis fan..
                        Heresy.
                        I always get raped over that statement lol. I think my issue with Bettis wasn't as much about Bettis was the fact that we used him so much. It was probably more of an issue with the offense in general. I hate one dimensional backs and O's.
                        just think how good that offense would have been if we had a good qb in bettis' prime..
                        Agreed...it would have been amazing.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #27
                          Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Don't start H.

                          OSU has produced alot of good running backs. Clarett was the most naturally gifted of them all.

                          my favorite Buckeye tailback would have to be Robert Smith...fast, shifty and slightly smarter than Clarett too... :P


                          Solid pick. I believe he had neurosurgical aspirations for life after football at one time. The dude was sharp and very fast. He was a long strider but when he hit second gear no one could catch him. Personally, I would pick George or even Wells over Smith but I like power backs. But, if given a choice from just a pure athletic stand point...I take Clarett without hesitation. I have never seen someone so successful behind one of the worst lines in OSU history. You can look at his youtube highlights...as a freshman he was better than George as a senior. And those highlights don't show the little things he did well such as always fall foward and the ability to pick up yards play after play with no hole.

                          Back to the original subject Dwyer shows some of those traits I loved in Clarett. I think Dwyer when all is said and done will go down as a huge steal.


                          forgot all about Eddie George, always loved how that guy ran the ball!

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 16041

                            #28
                            Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                            Originally posted by MaxAMillion
                            I prefer the days when we were winning Super Bowls which meant putting the ball in Ben's hands to pass early and often. I have very little nostalgia for the hand off to Bettis days when the Steelers were getting knocked out in the playoffs.
                            The problem was not the quantity of passing, it was the "quality" of the QB play. Emmitt Smith was breaking rushing records AND winning SBs. Troy Aikman was the difference. Had we had THAT caliber QB we would have a ridiculous number of rings.

                            I contend that this combination is still the best brand of football.
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24373

                              #29
                              Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                              I hope that JD does very well wearing the B&G.

                              But, I have to say that I don't get all the hype. I only watched one highlight video, but it seemed to me like on most of his runs big he didn't have any contact until 8-10 yards downfield, and the guys hitting him were usually DBs. The vid I saw seemed like it was a highlight package for the O-Line.

                              He won't get holes anywhere near that big in the NFL, nor will he have that many runs that are uncontested at the LOS. I think it's unknown how well he'll do in those circumstances - probabaly why he went so late in the draft.

                              That being said, I hope he can be a great short yardage guy and a guy who can come in and spell RM. BUT, I think it's important that we keep our expectations in check.

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                              • aggiebones
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1427

                                #30
                                Re: Jonathan Dwyer

                                Yea there was a reason no other team made a move for him. He wasn't a secret or a backup in college like Willie. Its possible he works out well, but the hype is ridiculous. If he makes the club I'll be happy. He does have potential, but we need some help now. Pray that Mendi can carry the load or we'll be in BIG trouble.

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