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  • WindyCitySteel
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    • Nov 2011
    • 15474

    Fields vs. Russ

    Fields: 20.7 PPG, 4-2

    Wilson: 21.2 PPG, 6-4

    Since we beat up the two NY teams in Prime Time at home, Russ is averaging 18.6 PPG and is 4-4.

    Is it time to go back?
  • Eich
    Legend
    • Jul 2010
    • 6930

    #2
    Neither is the answer IMO. Russ is clearly the superior passer. But our line can’t protect him long enough and we have only one competent wideout.

    Russ beat the Bungjes in a shootout. No way I go back to Fields.

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    • T.Ferguson
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2021
      • 2377

      #3
      Wilson is not the problem and Fields is not the answer.

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      • WindyCitySteel
        Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 15474

        #4
        Originally posted by T.Ferguson
        Wilson is not the problem and Fields is not the answer.
        Wilson is a mess with ball security and taking sacks the last few weeks. Fantasy passing stats don’t mean **** when you score 10 points.

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        • Northern_Blitz
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          • Dec 2008
          • 23898

          #5
          Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
          Fields: 20.7 PPG, 4-2

          Wilson: 21.2 PPG, 6-4

          Since we beat up the two NY teams in Prime Time at home, Russ is averaging 18.6 PPG and is 4-4.

          Is it time to go back?
          I wouldn't mind seeing more Fields (if he's healthy).

          But my guess is that changing your QB with a week left in the season isn't a good strategy either.

          I won't be upset if they make a change. But I don't think they will. And it's probably the right decision to keep Russ as the starter. Maybe play Justin more. And if he looks a lot better, then make the switch?

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          • WindyCitySteel
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            • Nov 2011
            • 15474

            #6
            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

            I wouldn't mind seeing more Fields (if he's healthy).

            But my guess is that changing your QB with a week left in the season isn't a good strategy either.

            I won't be upset if they make a change. But I don't think they will. And it's probably the right decision to keep Russ as the starter. Maybe play Justin more. And if he looks a lot better, then make the switch?
            Agree, barring injury they’re not doing this. Bare minimum, you can’t give Russ an extension, that’s basically admitting that just having a winning season is enough.

            I still applaud turning the QB room over in one offseason to try something new, but it looks like it’s not going to yield results.

            So do it again this coming offseason.

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            • Buzz
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              • Dec 2017
              • 8288

              #7
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel

              Agree, barring injury they’re not doing this. Bare minimum, you can’t give Russ an extension, that’s basically admitting that just having a winning season is enough.

              I still applaud turning the QB room over in one offseason to try something new, but it looks like it’s not going to yield results.

              So do it again this coming offseason.
              I'd move on from BOTH Russ and Fields

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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 15974

                #8
                Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                Fields: 20.7 PPG, 4-2

                Wilson: 21.2 PPG, 6-4

                Since we beat up the two NY teams in Prime Time at home, Russ is averaging 18.6 PPG and is 4-4.

                Is it time to go back?
                If Russ finishes like he is playing now, I offer Fields first in the offseason. If we lose him I offer Russ a cheap deal as his value would be nil. Whichever QB gets signed would not break the bank and I start looking at QB in the coming drafts.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27135

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Captain Lemming

                  If Russ finishes like he is playing now, I offer Fields first in the offseason. If we lose him I offer Russ a cheap deal as his value would be nil. Whichever QB gets signed would not break the bank and I start looking at QB in the coming drafts.
                  Crazy how quickly things change.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Captain Lemming
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 15974

                    #10
                    Originally posted by feltdizz

                    Crazy how quickly things change.
                    Got that right. Absolutely crazy.
                    sigpic



                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26089

                      #11
                      In the last 3 games, on 3rd down:
                      • Average yards to go = 9.0, average yards gained = 4.1
                      • On a passing play, average yards to go = 9.7, average yards gained = 3.0
                      • On a running play (there has only been 8 total on 3rd down), average yards to go = 4.8, average yards gained = 8.5 (before you get all excited about that, 64 out of 68 yards gained were Wilson scrambles. It seems QB scrambles, Wilson or Fields, are one of the few things keeping the offense going)
                      If the Steelers don't stay out of 3rd and long, they are basically screwed on the drive. Wilson either doesn't have the time, can't find an open man, or no one can get open.


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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                        • May 2008
                        • 10086

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

                        I wouldn't mind seeing more Fields (if he's healthy).

                        But my guess is that changing your QB with a week left in the season isn't a good strategy either.

                        I won't be upset if they make a change. But I don't think they will. And it's probably the right decision to keep Russ as the starter. Maybe play Justin more. And if he looks a lot better, then make the switch?
                        I think a creative idea would be giving Fields a couple of drives instead of maybe one play here and there. The DC wouldn't be expecting it and the D would be caught off guard. It doesn't require a brand new gameplan and will throw the D more than disrupt the O.
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                        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                          • May 2008
                          • 10086

                          #13
                          I go into this off-season the same way as 2022. QB is not the move unless a) your convinced you have the right guy for the future or b) you have your line and weapons in place.

                          A great set of circumstances can make a QB look much better than he would in a bad situation, and I can pass up a pretty good QB until I have that situation - but if you have your Mahomes/Burrow/Lamar/Allen you grab him with both hands.

                          Examples of pretty good QBs who look great in the right situation: Purdy, Hurts

                          Examples of good QBs who look like trash in the wrong situation: the list is endless.

                          The Steelers may or may not be so far away. On the line there are 3 guys who are young and hopefully on the upswing - Jones, McCormick, Frazier. Still hope for first-rounder, injured Fautanu, and maybe time to move on from Seumalo (32 next year, injured early, play declining) and Moore (everybody's whipping boy for 4 years, started the year strong, play declining lately). So maybe 1 or 2 new bodies needed on OL.

                          Need a new lead back - Najee ain't the guy, and I don't think that Warren has the ability to be a workhorse - either physically or reliably, but he is perfect for the role he has (40-55%). Obviously new weapons out wide as well.

                          Any QB can fill in until that point at a reasonable and non-commital contract. Either you find your guy or rent a bridge QB.
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                          • Joel Buchsbaum
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                            • Jan 2021
                            • 7566

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel

                            Wilson is a mess with ball security and taking sacks the last few weeks. Fantasy passing stats don’t mean **** when you score 10 points.
                            What he said. We need to draft a QB....in round one or two of the 2025 draft.
                            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                            • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                              • May 2008
                              • 10086

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum

                              What he said. We need to draft a QB....in round one or two of the 2025 draft.
                              This is how you end up with Kenny Pickett. I'd rather pass on drafting a QB if my franchise QB is not available. I'm okay with a bridge guy while the team focuses on repairing other needs - DL, WR, RB, OL, CB etc. Drafting a QB for the sake of drafting a QB is a recipe for disaster.
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