Cowher says Roethlisberger was respected by team

[AngryAsian]

Re: Cowher says Roethlisberger was respected by team

Ben reminds me of Kobe a lot. LOL... Both had "trouble" off the field amd both are rumored to be arrogant azzz's in the lockerroom but their game has to be respected. I think part of the hate is the amount of money and influence they have over the FO. When other players are up for contract negotiations guess who they look at with frustration? The 100 million dollar man.

Ben admitted he was a bad teammate before... who knows how bad he really is though in the locker room.

I see the parallel you are trying to create here, dizz... but I disagree. Kobe had two factors on his side that spoke volumes for PR rehabilitation. One, he's a family guy with two young children... two, Kobe had plenty of endorsements deals that banked on his squeaky clean image. I think both factors I mentioned have been key elements in insuring Kobe didn't continue to his spiral down the abyss of infamy. Whether its the love and respect of his children or the millions of dollars from endorsement deals that impacts his net worth, Kobe has factors that has helped him rescue himself from himself. I'm not saying Ben isn't capable... but I don't see any rehabilitative factors on his side other than shame.

[Doogie36]

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Ok guys its time to focus here.....everyone do me a favor and look at my girls butt to the left and then take a deep breath and lets focus here...........FOCUS FOCUS....

BIG BEN!!!!!

1. This is the same guy who took his OLINE to detroit to build team bonding and that did what for the team???? WON THE SUPERBOWL.
2. Its the same guy who on National Television during the most watched show in the WORLD said the following.....OLINE??? WHOS LAUGHING NOW???? He didnt brag about himself up there holding a trophy.
3. Same guy who fights for a guy you all hate...BA..........
4. Same guy who promised BUS a superbowl.......Same guy who hands BUS all the playoff balls, same guy who hugged and cried a little after superbowl XL.......
5. Same guy who you see talking to HOLMES about his first superbowl and telling him he'll get him the ball early....Who was the guy who caught the game winner again??
6. Same guy you see holding TOMLINS hand during that superbowl......that pic is my ALL TIME FAVORITE STEELER PICTURE...........
7. Same guy who goes up and down on the sideline telling the OLINE good job and that it was ALL THEM that drive!!!!!!!!
8. Same guy who you see talking to Mendenhall about holding onto the ball........
9. Same guy who during training camp the year they won superbowl XL was out 45 minutes before everyone else signing autographs. That year they said he was always out early signing. I got my jersey signed. I'm sure some years he doesnt like last year and other years....Was he overly friendly???? Not really but he signed his ass off and the less he talked the more that got signed.......
10. Same guy who did make a wish!!!!!!!
11. Same guy who buys police dogs for other cities beside PITT.
12. Same guy who held Hines Hand on the sideline and actually gets into the game and watches the defense.
13. Same guy who told TROY during the AFC Championship game that hes AWESOME. Ever see Payton say that to his defense??? what did Payton say about his OLINE during the loss to the steelers that one year???? OH WE HAD SOME PROTECTION PROBLEMS....I mean lets get real here..........

In fact I love the steelers because they actually get involved....that year Leftwich ran for a TD and Casey Hampton was laughing at him and making fun of his run.......Our team actually gets into the game and each other......You dont see that on other teams like you do with the STEELERS.............

I'm sure there are more but it doesnt matter.........The guy is a team player........all his post game interviews is like listening to the white version of TOMLIN..........Game winning TD Throw in the superbowl he said the play was pump once, pump twice, get open......or something crazy.......he didnt say oh i audibled at the line....i made this decision...I did that..........he thought it was PICKED and so DID I...........he isnt about himself.

YES HES 26.....yes he puts himself in bad situations.............Yes he called this girl a tease in bar #1 and ends up doing something in bar #3 with her..........she wore a DTF badge....I mean come on...........who hasnt done something at the age of 26???? Doesnt mean he's not liked in the locker room or on the team..............COME ON!!!! This is just DUMB talk..............he was out with a teammate.....how is he not liked and out with a teammate???? I bet these guys are probably laughing about this crap and will give him a hard time........MOORE was on the VIKING SHIP wasnt he with the escorts????? Wasnt he????? We all LOVE him..................

Lets focus!!!!!!!! This is one bad drunken night!!!!!

My brother bought us beer when I was 19....he was 22.........He took a friend of mine to the high school parking lot after she had been drinking and now they are married. He contributed to a minor, had sex with her and then married her.................So it happens.................................lets keep it real people.............


LETS GOOO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Leper Friend]

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I really could care less if he is an arrogant d*ck. What I don't want is him getting himself suspended, doing ish to get himself traded or bring negative attention on this team. It would be nice if our QB was a terrific, charismatic, and loveable teddy bear. But, he isn't. He is however an elite talent with 2 SB rings. I'll take that anyday over a Tim Tebow type that can't throw his way out of a wet paper sack.

Well said.

Why does anyone care what his personality is outside of his personality getting him in trouble ? That's the only thing that should be an issue.Other than that , he can be as big of a d*ck as he wants.

His personality didn't seem to be an issue when they were winning Super Bowls.

[feltdizz]

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Ben reminds me of Kobe a lot. LOL... Both had "trouble" off the field amd both are rumored to be arrogant azzz's in the lockerroom but their game has to be respected. I think part of the hate is the amount of money and influence they have over the FO. When other players are up for contract negotiations guess who they look at with frustration? The 100 million dollar man.

Ben admitted he was a bad teammate before... who knows how bad he really is though in the locker room.

I see the parallel you are trying to create here, dizz... but I disagree. Kobe had two factors on his side that spoke volumes for PR rehabilitation. One, he's a family guy with two young children... two, Kobe had plenty of endorsements deals that banked on his squeaky clean image. I think both factors I mentioned have been key elements in insuring Kobe didn't continue to his spiral down the abyss of infamy. Whether its the love and respect of his children or the millions of dollars from endorsement deals that impacts his net worth, Kobe has factors that has helped him rescue himself from himself. I'm not saying Ben isn't capable... but I don't see any rehabilitative factors on his side other than shame.

I'm not really comparing their off field issues. They are strikingly similar though and Kobe wasn't clean or a family man right after his charge... he was Ben in terms of the PR nightmare... it also happened during the season so Kobe was able to play his way out of the nightmare.

My comparison is based on the respect Kobe gets from his teammates. It's not because he is a great team player or locker room anchor... it's because he is a winner. Cowher implied Ben was respected because he won games. It can be said that winning is all that matters in terms of respect... but if you get suspended or have off field issues it can magnify things and it doesn't help the team win games. The stories about Ben and film or poor practices never come up after a 300 yard 2TD game...they come up after a 5 sack loss... winning trumps all.

[ikestops85]

Re: Cowher says Roethlisberger was respected by team

Ok guys its time to focus here.....everyone do me a favor and look at my girls butt to the left and then take a deep breath and lets focus here...........FOCUS FOCUS....

BIG BEN!!!!!

1. This is the same guy who took his OLINE to detroit to build team bonding and that did what for the team???? WON THE SUPERBOWL.
2. Its the same guy who on National Television during the most watched show in the WORLD said the following.....OLINE??? WHOS LAUGHING NOW???? He didnt brag about himself up there holding a trophy.
3. Same guy who fights for a guy you all hate...BA..........
4. Same guy who promised BUS a superbowl.......Same guy who hands BUS all the playoff balls, same guy who hugged and cried a little after superbowl XL.......
5. Same guy who you see talking to HOLMES about his first superbowl and telling him he'll get him the ball early....Who was the guy who caught the game winner again??
6. Same guy you see holding TOMLINS hand during that superbowl......that pic is my ALL TIME FAVORITE STEELER PICTURE...........
7. Same guy who goes up and down on the sideline telling the OLINE good job and that it was ALL THEM that drive!!!!!!!!
8. Same guy who you see talking to Mendenhall about holding onto the ball........
9. Same guy who during training camp the year they won superbowl XL was out 45 minutes before everyone else signing autographs. That year they said he was always out early signing. I got my jersey signed. I'm sure some years he doesnt like last year and other years....Was he overly friendly???? Not really but he signed his bad word off and the less he talked the more that got signed.......
10. Same guy who did make a wish!!!!!!!
11. Same guy who buys police dogs for other cities beside PITT.
12. Same guy who held Hines Hand on the sideline and actually gets into the game and watches the defense.
13. Same guy who told TROY during the AFC Championship game that hes AWESOME. Ever see Payton say that to his defense??? what did Payton say about his OLINE during the loss to the steelers that one year???? OH WE HAD SOME PROTECTION PROBLEMS....I mean lets get real here..........

In fact I love the steelers because they actually get involved....that year Leftwich ran for a TD and Casey Hampton was laughing at him and making fun of his run.......Our team actually gets into the game and each other......You dont see that on other teams like you do with the STEELERS.............

I'm sure there are more but it doesnt matter.........The guy is a team player........all his post game interviews is like listening to the white version of TOMLIN..........Game winning TD Throw in the superbowl he said the play was pump once, pump twice, get open......or something crazy.......he didnt say oh i audibled at the line....i made this decision...I did that..........he thought it was PICKED and so DID I...........he isnt about himself.

YES HES 26.....yes he puts himself in bad situations.............Yes he called this girl a tease in bar #1 and ends up doing something in bar #3 with her..........she wore a DTF badge....I mean come on...........who hasnt done something at the age of 26???? Doesnt mean he's not liked in the locker room or on the team..............COME ON!!!! This is just DUMB talk..............he was out with a teammate.....how is he not liked and out with a teammate???? I bet these guys are probably laughing about this crap and will give him a hard time........MOORE was on the VIKING SHIP wasnt he with the escorts????? Wasnt he????? We all LOVE him..................

Lets focus!!!!!!!! This is one bad drunken night!!!!!

My brother bought us beer when I was 19....he was 22.........He took a friend of mine to the high school parking lot after she had been drinking and now they are married. He contributed to a minor, had sex with her and then married her.................So it happens.................................lets keep it real people.............


LETS GOOO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post of the YEAR!!!

By the way ... Goodell just suspended your brother for the season

[HeHateMe]

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Ben is not Kobe. Kobe is an ASSASSIN. The best in the game for years. Ben has never been the best. Ben is FORTUNATE to play for the Steelers. Kobe would be one of the best on the worst team. But Ben on the Rams and he'd SUCK. Kobe is a Hall of Famer Ben is not. Ben has one Pro Bowl Kobe is a All Star game regular. Kobe is the PRIMARY reason the Lakers are good. Ben is not. Ben won a SB in 05 with the worst qb performance in history. Yes he played well in games leading up to SB 40 but thats due in part to the #1 rushing game in the NFL. They expected run and Whiz called passes. SB 43 we were lead by the #1 defense. In fact Ben has ONE TD pass and THREE Ints. He is HARDLY the reason we have 2 rings in his tenure. We rode Ben last season (His best year) and we went 9-7.

[cruzer8]

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Ben is not Kobe. Kobe is an ASSASSIN. The best in the game for years. Ben has never been the best. Ben is FORTUNATE to play for the Steelers. Kobe would be one of the best on the worst team. But Ben on the Rams and he'd SUCK. Kobe is a Hall of Famer Ben is not. Ben has one Pro Bowl Kobe is a All Star game regular. Kobe is the PRIMARY reason the Lakers are good. Ben is not. Ben won a SB in 05 with the worst qb performance in history. Yes he played well in games leading up to SB 40 but thats due in part to the #1 rushing game in the NFL. They expected run and Whiz called passes. SB 43 we were lead by the #1 defense. In fact Ben has ONE TD pass and THREE Ints. He is HARDLY the reason we have 2 rings in his tenure. We rode Ben last season (His best year) and we went 9-7.

Strike two.

[HeHateMe]

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Ben is not Kobe. Kobe is an ASSASSIN. The best in the game for years. Ben has never been the best. Ben is FORTUNATE to play for the Steelers. Kobe would be one of the best on the worst team. But Ben on the Rams and he'd SUCK. Kobe is a Hall of Famer Ben is not. Ben has one Pro Bowl Kobe is a All Star game regular. Kobe is the PRIMARY reason the Lakers are good. Ben is not. Ben won a SB in 05 with the worst qb performance in history. Yes he played well in games leading up to SB 40 but thats due in part to the #1 rushing game in the NFL. They expected run and Whiz called passes. SB 43 we were lead by the #1 defense. In fact Ben has ONE TD pass and THREE Ints. He is HARDLY the reason we have 2 rings in his tenure. We rode Ben last season (His best year) and we went 9-7.

Strike two.

IF I posted anything that wasnt accurate. Please feel free to point them out.

[frankthetank1]

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Ben is not Kobe. Kobe is an ASSASSIN. The best in the game for years. Ben has never been the best. Ben is FORTUNATE to play for the Steelers. Kobe would be one of the best on the worst team. But Ben on the Rams and he'd SUCK. Kobe is a Hall of Famer Ben is not. Ben has one Pro Bowl Kobe is a All Star game regular. Kobe is the PRIMARY reason the Lakers are good. Ben is not. Ben won a SB in 05 with the worst qb performance in history. Yes he played well in games leading up to SB 40 but thats due in part to the #1 rushing game in the NFL. They expected run and Whiz called passes. SB 43 we were lead by the #1 defense. In fact Ben has ONE TD pass and THREE Ints. He is HARDLY the reason we have 2 rings in his tenure. We rode Ben last season (His best year) and we went 9-7.

you talk about kobe as if he were jordan. kobe needs a lot more around him to win championships then jordan did. kobe isnt anything without the team around him just like most players. kobe finally one a championship without shaq but it took a while to build the team around kobe. if ben were on a crap team like the rams he would still put up good numbers. ben maybe isnt a hall of famer yet but kobe didnt go to college and is older than ben. in the 2005 post season besides the sb ben was amazing. who cares if the defenses facing the steelers expected the run ben still completed the passes. i guess joe montana wasnt all that clutch, after all in the sb against the bengals the defense was double teaming jerry rice and left john taylor wide open.

[HeHateMe]

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Ben is not Kobe. Kobe is an ASSASSIN. The best in the game for years. Ben has never been the best. Ben is FORTUNATE to play for the Steelers. Kobe would be one of the best on the worst team. But Ben on the Rams and he'd SUCK. Kobe is a Hall of Famer Ben is not. Ben has one Pro Bowl Kobe is a All Star game regular. Kobe is the PRIMARY reason the Lakers are good. Ben is not. Ben won a SB in 05 with the worst qb performance in history. Yes he played well in games leading up to SB 40 but thats due in part to the #1 rushing game in the NFL. They expected run and Whiz called passes. SB 43 we were lead by the #1 defense. In fact Ben has ONE TD pass and THREE Ints. He is HARDLY the reason we have 2 rings in his tenure. We rode Ben last season (His best year) and we went 9-7.

you talk about kobe as if he were jordan. kobe needs a lot more around him to win championships then jordan did. kobe isnt anything without the team around him just like most players. kobe finally one a championship without shaq but it took a while to build the team around kobe. if ben were on a crap team like the rams he would still put up good numbers. ben maybe isnt a hall of famer yet but kobe didnt go to college and is older than ben. in the 2005 post season besides the sb ben was amazing. who cares if the defenses facing the steelers expected the run ben still completed the passes. i guess joe montana wasnt all that clutch, after all in the sb against the bengals the defense was double teaming jerry rice and left john taylor wide open.

I don't talk about Kobe like he is Jordan. I talk about Kobe like he is the best player in the league the last 8 or 9 years. Ben has NEVER been that. No comparrison. How many rings did Jordan win without Pippen. Kobe won without Shaq. You say Ben would put up good numbers on the rams? I disagree. He leads the league in SACKS on a TOP team. What do you think would happen on a bottom team? It took Ben 6 years to put up good numbers for the Steelers and what was the result of those numbers? Go ahead and blame the defense. That SAME defense got us a ring in 08 and not Ben. Thats right we won in 08 with our qb committing TWENTY THREE turnovers. Funny the Rams wouldnt trade Bradford for Ben. Telling. Ben was amazing in 05 post season BECAUSE of the # 1 running game in the league. They expected run and we passed. What did he do in the SB wihen Holmgren took away that run? He sucked. Had we played a better team than the Seagals we would have lost. Joe Montana NEVER had a defense like Ben OR a running game like Ben and he still won FOUR. He STILL played lights out in the big game. Whereas Ben has ONE TD and THREE ints in the big game. Montana has ELEVEN Td's and ZERO Ints in the Big game. Oh by the way he also has THREE SB MVPs. Ben has ZERO. Montana looked great against all time defenses like the Bears D, The Giants (LT) and a great team like the Skins. Montana was rich, handsome and a woman magnet and NEVER had one Sexual Allegation. Kobe and Montana DESTROY the competition. Ben does JUST ENOUGH to get by. With a dominant defense like the Steelers have Ben should NEVER have to come from behind. It's an indictment against him. The Great Terry Bradshaw utilized his great defense by putting points on the board, not having to come from hehind as a result of putt putting along all game

[HeHateMe]

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I wonder IF Maddox or Dixon had thrown ONE TD and THREE ints in Steeler SB wins would they be lauded as this great SB Champion and winner like Ben is. Or would the truth be told. "They were just game managers who happened to make plays here and there to help us win"

[cruzer8]

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Troll.

[HeHateMe]

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Troll.

The TYPICAL response when you can't refute what is being said. The Troll would be BEN. You know the guy that has our TEAM disgraced? I'm a troll and Ben is a savior?
Telling

[HeHateMe]

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Also, how come no WOMEN are coming forth and defending this guy? "Ben is not like that. He is a gentle guy" etc. Heck EVEN MICHAEL JACKSON had people vouching for him when he had allegations.

[cruzer8]

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Troll.

The TYPICAL response when you can't refute what is being said. The Troll would be BEN. You know the guy that has our TEAM disgraced? I'm a troll and Ben is a savior?
Telling

I don't have the time to refute all of the fallacies with your post.

Troll.