I'm hoping for 8 games

[pfelix73]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Again- as I get tired of saying this- Goodell needs to prove it, and he can't. Where's the proof? The police reports? come on, anything can be put in those things. They have been known to be biased.

Anyway, IF Ben gets suspended (our franchise QB) we can pretty much just kiss the season good bye already. And yea, I'll buy tickets to go see Dixon get crushed against say a Patriots team....

They are all a bunch of hypocrites. They want the league to have a certain image- which is fine- however- attending a game? That image is in the sewer. No way would I take my 7 year old to a game- too dangerous with all the drunks. And they want it to be a family affair- I'm laughing.......

[SteelAbility]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm hoping for something like 6 games with incentives to drop it two. Incentives like community service, counseling and the like.

I don't agree that we are done without Ben. If Troy and A. Smith are healthy, I believe we go 0.500 or slightly better in the Ben-suspended games. Dixon nearly (and should have) beat the Ravens on the road last year coming in totally cold. The Ravens are better than average. So we should be slightly better than average with Dixon at the helm.

[feltdizz]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

you can all you want about Goodell proving a crime but you will just end up with a headache.

It's not about a crime... it's about conduct.

Keep up the good fight!

[feltdizz]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm hoping for something like 6 games with incentives to drop it two. Incentives like community service, counseling and the like.

I don't agree that we are done without Ben. If Troy and A. Smith are healthy, I believe we go 0.500 or slightly better in the Ben-suspended games. Dixon nearly (and should have) beat the Ravens on the road last year coming in totally cold. The Ravens are better than average. So we should be slightly better than average with Dixon at the helm.

we can win games with Dixon... but I think we are forgetting about the loss of Holmes. That may have a bigger impact than we think when it comes to stretching the field and turning a 10 yard pass into a 40 yard gain.

[BDESteel]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I predicted 6-8 weeks w/out pay, we'll see.

Ben's arrogance is catching up to him in a big way. I supported him on the field for the past year and a half even after getting blasted about saying he was arrogant but can't stand behind this.

He deserves way more than a fine and a couple games suspension.

[ikestops85]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

You all know where I stand- See Goodell is an ... I say 0. NFL should have to prove all of this. No charges filed... nuff said.

you mean the 200 newspaper headlines and nonstop media bananza on ESPN, CNN, FOX, HLN, Huffington post, USAToday, Time, Newsweek, Wallstreet, NYTimes, POstgazette, Trib, NYPost and every major TV news... isn't enough proof for conduct unbecoming a football player?

Not saying I like Goodels policy but it is what it is.

So what you are saying is he deserves punishment because it garnered so much media attention? I guess if Elin would have chased Tiger with a golf club the day after this happened to Ben we wouldn't be talking about any of this because Tiger would have gotten all the bad publicity.

I'm sorry but at some point in time Goodell is gonna have to realize he is not the moral authority for all the NFL players. The personal conduct clause would never hold up in court because it is so vague. What exactly constitutes "conduct detrimental to the NFL"? It could be anything.

I asked this question several times and nobody here has been able to give me an answer ... where do we draw the line? A criminal charge? an allegation? a messy divorce? adultery? a speeding ticket? a parking ticket? How about Tom and Giselle (sp?) inviting a third person into their bedroom and that person tells all? Is that bad pub for the NFL? How about if that third person is a guy? Does that change anyones mind?


I'm not a lawyer but this is why I think that the NFL and Goodell don't have a leg to stand on in suspending Ben. If Ben were to accept a major suspension (4 or more games) then to me, and most fans , he will be in essence pleading guilty to both the Vegas incident and the Georgia incident. Now you guys can try and wordsmith around it all you want but everyone will say that Ben was suspended for sexually assaulting 2 women. End of story.

[SteelAbility]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm hoping for something like 6 games with incentives to drop it two. Incentives like community service, counseling and the like.

I don't agree that we are done without Ben. If Troy and A. Smith are healthy, I believe we go 0.500 or slightly better in the Ben-suspended games. Dixon nearly (and should have) beat the Ravens on the road last year coming in totally cold. The Ravens are better than average. So we should be slightly better than average with Dixon at the helm.

we can win games with Dixon... but I think we are forgetting about the loss of Holmes. That may have a bigger impact than we think when it comes to stretching the field and turning a 10 yard pass into a 40 yard gain.

Good point! I didn't think about that. But isn't Sweed going to save us? :P

[NW Steeler]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

It will not be 6-8 games. And if I were Ben, I would fight a suspension of that length. All indications thus far are that it will be a conditional suspension. So it may start at 4-6 and be reduced to 2-3. That is the scenario that I see unfolding.

[papillon]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

It will not be 6-8 games. And if I were Ben, I would fight a suspension of that length. All indications thus far are that it will be a conditional suspension. So it may start at 4-6 and be reduced to 2-3. That is the scenario that I see unfolding.

Pappy

[SteelAbility]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

It will not be 6-8 games. And if I were Ben, I would fight a suspension of that length. All indications thus far are that it will be a conditional suspension. So it may start at 4-6 and be reduced to 2-3. That is the scenario that I see unfolding.

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Pappy

Ok, you've got that covered. I'll do the "Hail Mary's!"

[cruzer8]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

It may have started at 2 games had Steeler Nation not gone out of their way in an attempt to show the entire NFL how self-righteous and morally above everyone else they are. Because if you don't think Rog is taking into account that Ben's own fan base is calling for his head then you're crazy.

If we lose games that Ben is suspended for, the same people who were calling for him to be suspended will be complaining that we lost those games.

[bostonsteeler]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

2 games and a heavy fine. I agree with SD that any suspension hurts us as fans and hurts the team's chances for the playoffs. But I also think many of us feel a suspension of 2 games is at least called for in this case and we probably would be willing to take that potential hit to the record to see justice done.

I'm not many. There are others here as well who aren't many.

There should be no suspension.

Agreed. Fine his azz for being stupid.
But you can't suspend a guy for being on the wrong end of a he-said she-said, especially when there are sooo many inconsistencies in the "victim"'s story and absolutely no evidence could be obtained about any criminal activity. The guy is an idiot, but he isn't a criminal. You want to suspend him because the DA took it upon himself to grandstand?

[SS Laser]

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I predicted 6-8 weeks w/out pay, we'll see.

Ben's arrogance is catching up to him in a big way. I supported him on the field for the past year and a half even after getting blasted about saying he was arrogant but can't stand behind this.

He deserves way more than a fine and a couple games suspension.

Why?