I'm hoping for 8 games

**papillon** · 04-19-2010, 07:04 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Originally posted by rpmpit

Yes, I am. I think 8 games will satisfy both sides of our divided Nation.

I can't wait for football, but I have to admit that I'm not really looking forward to seeing Ben on the field yet. Still too many unanswered questions and doubts in my mind.

I feel like an idiot for preaching to my friends and family for so many years how great the Rooneys and the Steelers organization is and how they wouldn't tolerate the crap that other teams put up with. And now all this.

AND I KNOW BEN WASN'T CHARGED

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, so save your breath (or your keystrokes in this case) and don't try to change mine.

I'll give Ben the opportunity to fix this. If he truly did nothing wrong, he needs to tell his side of the story. I know most of what we've been hearing has been one-sided.

You know rpm the more and more I read about the whole thing it is my belief that a stiff fine (500K - 750K) and 2 games is all he should get and I've been a harsh critic of his behavior in this whole incident. Originally, I was hoping for 4 and would have been fine with 8; however, the police report shows so much inconsistency that it is difficult to determine how inappropriately Ben acted that evening.

He deserves some wrath from the NFL and the Steelers, but not nearly what I had originally hoped for. He may be guilty of social failings, but that's about it.

Pappy

**SteelBucks** · 04-19-2010, 07:31 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm probably in the minority but I'd give him a 16 game suspension without pay. If that doesn't wake him up, nothing will. I know this will never happen because the players union would go nuts.

IMO, Ben will get a two game suspension and fined an unspecified amount. The comish will probably also recommend some sort of counseling.

**SteelCrazy** · 04-19-2010, 07:34 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm with Pap on this......2 games and a fine is more than sufficient especially after considering all of the evidence from the police report. Even though that may still be too much, Ben has got to take it for the team and the NFL because this has been a very dark spot for the Steelers and NFL when you consider how this has been reported in the media.

**costanza2k1** · 04-19-2010, 08:27 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I don't feel like 2 will be enough, I think 4 is sufficient. 8 is just nuts, that's unprecedented for someone who in my mind is a scumbag but still has NEVER been charged with a crime.

**ramblinjim** · 04-19-2010, 08:35 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I'm kinda fence sitting on this one, I'd like to see four games and a big fine. I'd like to see it handed out by the Rooney's to show that the Steelers don't put up with this s**t and not the NFL. But we'll have to wait and see.

I'm not sure about counseling; I don't know Ben to say "this is a problem for Ben" or "Ben is a horses b-hind and just doesn't get it" maybe a long stint of community service in a battered women's shelter would be a better way for him to see the other side of things than say three months in Alcohol classes.

**Oviedo** · 04-19-2010, 08:36 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Minimum 2 but max of 4 games. The guy is a jerk but he has never been charged. If you suspended every NFL player who is a jerk then there wouldn't be many playing. If Ben stumbles again then he deserves to be cut.

**Ghost** · 04-19-2010, 08:45 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

This is already unchartered territory for the NFL and the Players Union. Ben's not been arrested or charged and as such is considered a first time offender of the conduct policy. I believe this is the first time a player wasn't at least arrested.

It's a fine line between Ben getting "special" treatment b/c he's a big time QB and the league being excessive. If he were to get 8 games then the precedent is set and now teams/players could get a 1/2 season. No way the Union allows that. They'd fight it and this mess stays in the press. Goodell wants this behind them and he knows 8 games would keep it around.

**Djfan** · 04-19-2010, 08:46 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I just want him to come down from the high horse he is sitting on. Whatever that takes is fine by me.

**steelblood** · 04-19-2010, 08:52 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

"high horse"

That is it! I've always felt he has an air of superiority that is offputting.

How about 4 games and castration?

**Oviedo** · 04-19-2010, 09:02 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Originally posted by steelblood

"high horse"

That is it! I've always felt he has an air of superiority that is offputting.

How about 4 games and castration?

Ben "The Eunuch"

**SanAntonioSteelerFan** · 04-19-2010, 09:05 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

The Steeler name is soiled. The main thing in my mind is getting it clean again. I've spent years telling my 16 year old son how the Steelers are different, they even let people go where other teams would sign the same players.

The Steelers have a choice - do they become the Ravens/Bengals, or do they stay the Steelers. Unfortunately for Ben, it has very little to do with what he did or didn't do that night - it has to do with perception - because that is what any brand is, including the Steeler brand is.

Fair or not - Ben put himself, and the Steelers, in this position because he didn't understand how to keep his franchise "clean" like Brady*, Manning, Manning, Brees, etc.

I think 4-8 games would be appropriate - it would show that the Steelers care enough about doing the right thing that they are even willing to sacrifice a season to do it. It may not shut down the media and away fans, but I think it may shut down the booing at Heinz Field. I think I would get nauseous hearing boos against the Steelers there just because Ben is on the field. I know if I knew he had been punished, had counseling, and was truly penitent, I would not boo Ben.

So once again, do we become the Ravens/Bengals, or do we stay the Steelers?

My

**WoodleyofTroy** · 04-19-2010, 09:22 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Originally posted by rpmpit

I feel like an idiot for preaching to my friends and family for so many years how great the Rooneys and the Steelers organization is and how they wouldn't tolerate the crap that other teams put up with. And now all this.

You do realize they just released a Super Bowl MVP in his prime, right?

**BURGH86STEEL** · 04-19-2010, 09:27 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

I think up to 4 games is fair. I think that is what he will get. I hope he learns something from this latest incident.

**steeler_fan_in_t.o.** · 04-19-2010, 09:28 AM

Re: I'm hoping for 8 games

Originally posted by SteelBucks

I'm probably in the minority but I'd give him a 16 game suspension without pay. If that doesn't wake him up, nothing will. I know this will never happen because the players union would go nuts.

IMO, Ben will get a two game suspension and fined an unspecified amount. The comish will probably also recommend some sort of counseling.

Is this if you were the commish or the team?

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