Steelers have reached agreement with former Bills tackle

[calmkiller]

Re: Steelers have reached agreement with former Bills tackle

Consider also that Adam....whatever is projecting that we receive 3 comp picks. 2 5th rounds and one 7th round. So if he is accurate in his prediction this year we have 3 extra picks. We can move up to grab a player we want and still have a number of picks at our disposal.

[Oviedo]

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Let's read between the lines. They goot a potential starting FS or at least a veteran to compete. They are close to signing a OT with starters experience who provides at a minimum depth on the OL.

Guess what two positions we won't be drafting in Round 1. Is that the sound of bubbles bursting I hear

If you think Will Allen is going to keep us from drafting a good FS in round one, I think you overestimating Will Allen. This guy is here to replace carter and help on special teams. He can be effective as an emergency starter/stop gap guy. He is not the answer. That said, there are some good FS prospects in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Jonathan Scott is also probably no more than depth and camp competition.

I completely agree that there are lots of good DBs we can get in Rounds 2+. That is why I specifically constrained my comments to Round 1.

I have no doubt we will get DBs (probably 2) or OL (probably 1) in this draft. Just a matter of when. I think they are trying to give themselves the most freedom they can I Round 1 and therefore we must ask what would they be open to.

[steelerkeylargo]

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Jon Scott was once a pretty good OT prospect for Texas.....but dropped off Senior year....much like Tony Hills. He prob will take Hills roster spot....backup only.

[papillon]

Re: Steelers have reached agreement with former Bills tackle

Let's read between the lines. They goot a potential starting FS or at least a veteran to compete. They are close to signing a OT with starters experience who provides at a minimum depth on the OL.

Guess what two positions we won't be drafting in Round 1. Is that the sound of bubbles bursting I hear

The Steelers like value and Earl Thomas provides it at 1.18, from what I hear he can play FS, SS and CB. If that's the case he will not be passed up by the Steelers. They like value and versatility and he would provide both.

In all seriousness Spiller would provide value but not versatility, in that he can play many positions, he is, however, a versatile back. I believe that if Thomas and Spiller are there at 1.18 the Steelers take Thomas.

Pappy

[hawaiiansteel]

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Jon Scott was once a pretty good OT prospect for Texas.....but dropped off Senior year....much like Tony Hills. He prob will take Hills roster spot....backup only.

if nothing else, i feel much better now knowing that Tony Hills may never actually have to play in a real game in case of an injury to one of our starting OTs.

[Chadman]

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Hasn't Jon Scott played OG as well?

Is he a chance to play RG seeing as how he knows what Kugler will demand of him?

Smart buys today from the Steelers, depth is now covered, possibly 2 starters (Scott at RG & Will Allen at FS) & the freedom on Draft Day to go out & get an impact player or two.

[NW Steeler]

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Put me in with those that think this doesn't change our draft strategy at all. These are moves for depth. Talk of Earl Thomas reminds me of the versatility that Carnell Lake had, although he played LB at UCLA, didn't he?

[SteelCzar76]

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I view these recent signings from the perspective of the team adding more "Mewelde Moore type" journeyman depth. And i like others do not believe that it impacts our prior/current Draft needs in any significant fashion.

Does it mean Iupati, Haden, Wilson or even a surprise pick like MCcourtey are out of consideration ?,.. no. Does it mean Mays, Thomas or Odrick are out ?,,.. no.

But i will say that for those of you whom believe the pick will be and or would like for it to be a LB such as MCclain or Weatherspoon,.....you may very well be dissapointed. Why,...we already have a guy on the roster that is a better LB than Timmons in Fox,....and yet Tomlin refuses to allow him to start. ( Even to the reported chagrin of the Defensive coaching staff)

What makes anyone believe that he'd (Tomlin) go along with Drafting a backer that he could not justify keeping off of the field as a starter in place of Timmons ? There could be no more excuses (For him or Timmons) to do so if one of those guys where to come in and outperform Timmons in every sense,.. every time they stepped on the field at practice/camps right before everyone's very eyes.

As i said before,.. i'm no longer giving Tomlin the "business" for his views on personnel, (Can't do anything about it)... but,..i will keep it real.

[NW Steeler]

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What makes you say that Fox is better than Timmons? I find it hard to believe that Tomlin wouldn't start the better player, no matter who he drafted. He signed Fox as a FA as well, so what is the difference? By that definition, they are both his "boys".

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers have reached agreement with former Bills tackle

Consider also that Adam....whatever is projecting that we receive 3 comp picks. 2 5th rounds and one 7th round. So if he is accurate in his prediction this year we have 3 extra picks. We can move up to grab a player we want and still have a number of picks at our disposal.

With the signings of Allen, Battle and Scott I think we will have Comp Picks taken away from us. We will not get 3 now.

[SteelCzar76]

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What makes you say that Fox is better than Timmons?

Aside from actually being an ILB NW,.. he's (Fox) more disciplined, more intelligent, stronger than and more physical than Timmons.

[stlrz d]

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What makes you say that Fox is better than Timmons? I find it hard to believe that Tomlin wouldn't start the better player, no matter who he drafted. He signed Fox as a FA as well, so what is the difference? By that definition, they are both his "boys".

czar has an issue with Timmons and no matter what Timmons does it will never be good enough.

I'm starting to think he's Timmons' daddy and living vicariously through him...so unless Timmons is perfect it's just not good enough.

[SteelCzar76]

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[quote=stlrz d]

What makes you say that Fox is better than Timmons? I find it hard to believe that Tomlin wouldn't start the better player, no matter who he drafted. He signed Fox as a FA as well, so what is the difference? By that definition, they are both his "boys".

czar has an issue with Timmons and no matter what Timmons does it will never be good enough.

I'm starting to think he's Timmons' daddy and living vicariously through him...so unless Timmons is perfect it's just not good enough.[/quote:tusbhp5t]

I think you mean to say that Tomlin looks at him as a father attempting to live through him.
It's not personal for me at all,.....i simply abhor the foolishness of wasting 1st rnd draft selections of an organization that i would like to see remain strong because of one man's (Tomlin) desire to do as much. (Live vicariously through a player and or put their success before that of the Franchise because of some great PERSONAL affinity)

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Steelers have reached agreement with former Bills tackle

Consider also that Adam....whatever is projecting that we receive 3 comp picks. 2 5th rounds and one 7th round. So if he is accurate in his prediction this year we have 3 extra picks. We can move up to grab a player we want and still have a number of picks at our disposal.

With the signings of Allen, Battle and Scott I think we will have Comp Picks taken away from us. We will not get 3 now.

what's up O?

these signings will not factor into this year's compensatory picks, but will rather be factored into next year's calculations. with these signings it looks like we won't be getting any comp picks next year.

but this year, we should be getting two 5ths and a 7th or a 5th, 6th and a 7th...

[stlrz d]

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[quote=SteelCzar76]

What makes you say that Fox is better than Timmons? I find it hard to believe that Tomlin wouldn't start the better player, no matter who he drafted. He signed Fox as a FA as well, so what is the difference? By that definition, they are both his "boys".

czar has an issue with Timmons and no matter what Timmons does it will never be good enough.

I'm starting to think he's Timmons' daddy and living vicariously through him...so unless Timmons is perfect it's just not good enough.

I think you mean to say that Tomlin looks at him as a father attempting to live through him.
It's not personal for me at all,.....i simply abhor the foolishness of wasting 1st rnd draft selections of an organization that i would like to see remain strong because of one man's (Tomlin) desire to do as much. (Live vicariously through a player and or put their success before that of the Franchise because of some great PERSONAL affinity)[/quote:2mlou8hs]

No. I meant what I posted.

And if you think Tomlin is the guy who drafted him then you're even more of a fool than you appear to be.