The Ruthless Full First Round Mock Draft

[buckeyehoppy]

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I like what Cherepinsky has to say (the little bit of it, that is) about Davis. He seems to think that Davis is Top 10. I'm not so sure, unless most of the Top 10 teams are absolutely desperate for OL talent. Granted, some are (the D-Cell Lobbers being among the top on that list).

My feeling is that unless there is a bull rush on OTs before the Steelers pick, we'll have a chance at someone falling to us that would be a pleasant surprise. Bulaga is the type of guy that might be caught like this. We could use a technically sound all-around OT.

And I'll tell ya what, brother... if McClain keeps falling and he's on the board when the Steelers select, I'll have a pachyderm with a Crimson sweater on it that I'll be working like a rabbit's foot in anticipation of the Steelers imminent pick. The Steelers would be stupid to pass on McClain if he were to be there at #18.

I laugh every time you post that.

I'll be here all week. Remember to tip the wait staff and the rack of lamb comes highly recommended.

[buckeyehoppy]

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[quote=stlrz d]

really?

a guy that big putting up 21 reps?


and i haven't seen bulaga play a whole lot. but in the drills, he looked a bit stiff to me

That's still plenty strong.

Now if you told me he could only squat 225 then I'd be concerned. [/quote:3qg466p2]

He squatted 225 times after he hit the training table.

Oh, we're talking football here, aren't we? My bad!

[RuthlessBurgher]

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something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

A strong combine performance by Bruce Campbell and Trent Williams, plus a subpar combine performance by Anthony Davis is why I thought Davis may suddenly be available at #18. But based on what actually went on on the football field, Davis is a top 10 talent. He has the bulk to be a road grader at RT, and has nimble enough feet to mirror pass rushers as a LT. Those guys are rare.

[hawaiiansteel]

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something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

A strong combine performance by Bruce Campbell and Trent Williams, plus a subpar combine performance by Anthony Davis is why I thought Davis may suddenly be available at #18. But based on what actually went on on the football field, Davis is a top 10 talent. He has the bulk to be a road grader at RT, and has nimble enough feet to mirror pass rushers as a LT. Those guys are rare.

do you think Davis could move inside to RG and challenge Essex before eventually replacing Colon at RT or would the Steelers have him stay at OT and be the main back-up to Starks at LT and Colon at RT in his rookie year?

[RuthlessBurgher]

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something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

A strong combine performance by Bruce Campbell and Trent Williams, plus a subpar combine performance by Anthony Davis is why I thought Davis may suddenly be available at #18. But based on what actually went on on the football field, Davis is a top 10 talent. He has the bulk to be a road grader at RT, and has nimble enough feet to mirror pass rushers as a LT. Those guys are rare.

do you think Davis could move inside to RG and challenge Essex before eventually replacing Colon at RT or would the Steelers have him stay at OT and be the main back-up to Starks at LT and Colon at RT in his rookie year?

Personally, I prefer to give rookies time to learn rather than throwing them to the fire right away. But if he was one of the 5 most talented lineman on our team and shows the ability to learn the playbook (remember, since we have a new OL coach, even the veterans are learning and adjusting to something new), I don't think that would be out of the realm of possibility. Remember, Kugler had two rookie guards starting for him last year, Eric Wood and Andy Levitre, so he is not against throwing the kids out there right away if he feels that they are ready.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Okay...on the basis of the article posted, let's assume that St. Louis thinks that a DT isn't worth #1 overall money, and Tampa does not think that a safety is worth #3 overall money. Would the following top 10 scenario be totally impossible?

St. Louis (1-15) Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Detroit (2-14) Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Tampa Bay (3-13) Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Washington (4-12) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Kansas City (4-12) Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Seattle (5-11) Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Cleveland (5-11) Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Oakland (5-11) Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
Buffalo (6-10) Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Jacksonville is on the clock at #10. We know they want Tim Tebow in order to sell tickets, but he is obviously not worthy of the #10 overall pick and without a 2nd round pick, they may worry about whether Tebow would last until their pick in the 3rd round.

They could stay put and take a pass rusher like Derrick Morgan at #10, or they can move down 8 slots, take a pass rusher there, and then have a 2nd rounder to use to get their boy Tebow.

I'd happily give up #18 and #52 if we could get Eric Berry, S, Tennessee, to team up with Troy Polamalu in our defensive backfield.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Okay...on the basis of the article posted, let's assume that St. Louis thinks that a DT isn't worth #1 overall money, and Tampa does not think that a safety is worth #3 overall money. Would the following top 10 scenario be totally impossible?

St. Louis (1-15) Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Detroit (2-14) Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Tampa Bay (3-13) Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Washington (4-12) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Kansas City (4-12) Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Seattle (5-11) Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Cleveland (5-11) Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Oakland (5-11) Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
Buffalo (6-10) Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Jacksonville is on the clock at #10. We know they want Tim Tebow in order to sell tickets, but he is obviously not worthy of the #10 overall pick and without a 2nd round pick, they may worry about whether Tebow would last until their pick in the 3rd round.

They could stay put and take a pass rusher like Derrick Morgan at #10, or they can move down 8 slots, take a pass rusher there, and then have a 2nd rounder to use to get their boy Tebow.

I'd happily give up #18 and #52 if we could get Eric Berry, S, Tennessee, to team up with Troy Polamalu in our defensive backfield.

wow, that would be a tough decision to make...one one hand, how can any Steelers fan not get excited about the idea of Troy teamed with a playmaking safety like Eric Berry?
if we could then only solve the CB problem opposite Ike we would have an incredible secondary instead of what we were forced to witness at time this past season.

on the other hand, we have so many other needs and might be able to land a free safety like Nate Allen/Chad Jones in Round 2 and still have our Round 1 pick to use on the BPA who fills one of those other needs (OL, DL, CB, ILB, C.J. Spiller , etc).

i'm 50/50 on this, let me go drink a beer and think about it some more...

[Eddie Spaghetti]

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if we can get berry and only give up a second, i would cry like a baby.

no way he gets by the stains at 7.

[Chadman]

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More likely scenario would be the Rams trade down with, say the Bucs, and the Bucs get the #1 DT while the Rams get the QB they require.

[Oviedo]

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something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

A strong combine performance by Bruce Campbell and Trent Williams, plus a subpar combine performance by Anthony Davis is why I thought Davis may suddenly be available at #18. But based on what actually went on on the football field, Davis is a top 10 talent. He has the bulk to be a road grader at RT, and has nimble enough feet to mirror pass rushers as a LT. Those guys are rare.

We have both a RT and a LT. Davis isn't the answer at either position.He's not better than either player at those positions now.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: The Ruthless Full First Round Mock Draft

something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

A strong combine performance by Bruce Campbell and Trent Williams, plus a subpar combine performance by Anthony Davis is why I thought Davis may suddenly be available at #18. But based on what actually went on on the football field, Davis is a top 10 talent. He has the bulk to be a road grader at RT, and has nimble enough feet to mirror pass rushers as a LT. Those guys are rare.

We have both a RT and a LT. Davis isn't the answer at either position.He's not better than either player at those positions now.

We have no depth at tackle at all (Hills? Seriously?) and our starting RT is a resticted free agent who may ask for more money than we are willing to pay when he becomes unrestricted. Quality depth at tackle is much harder to find than quality depth at, say, for instance, running back.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

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Un-impressed with Davis. Did not look fluid at all. The only OT we have a shot at in the 1st that impressed me was Trent Williams. He looks good on film and looked good in workouts. Campbell's workout had some eye opening numbers but his injury history and his average run blocking still doesn't make him a pick for the Steelers at #18. Somebody will pull the trigger early on this workout warrior.

[papillon]

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I don't see anyway the Rams take Suh. I know that's the general concensus but come on...as good as Suh is...they need a QB in a desperate way.

There isn't a franchise QB in this draft, IMO. I believe that Bradford and Claussen will be good, but not great QBs. This is the year to draft one later and develop him into a pro quarterback, the Rams need impact players right now and these group of QBs isn't going to be that impact player, IMHO.

Pappy

[papillon]

Re: The Ruthless Full First Round Mock Draft

something to be concerned about perhaps


davis put up only 21 reps

besides only putting up 21 reps in the bench press, Anthony Davis also struggled in the 40 yard dash with an official clocking of close to 5.40 seconds.

not that strong and not that fast are not attributes I'm looking for in our potential Round 1 draft choice.

Any position that has an "O" associated with the position is an attribute that I'm hoping the Steelers avoid, offensive lineman, running back, tight end, wide receiver, quarterback.

Pappy