Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

[hawaiiansteel]

Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:24:19 -0800

Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, report Pittsburgh Steelers director of football operations Kevin Colbert said impending free-agent FS Ryan Clark remains a priority and believes a contract will get done.

[steelblood]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Really? Why?

Clark is no longer a young man, has serious health issues, plays like every play is his last, and is not valuable unless Troy is healthy. We have enough dinosaurs under contract on the defensive side. We need to get younger.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Really? Why?

Clark is no longer a young man, has serious health issues, plays like every play is his last, and is not valuable unless Troy is healthy. We have enough dinosaurs under contract on the defensive side. We need to get younger.

the only way i would re-sign Clark is if the contract was a very reasonable one, Clark is an average safety at best who was exposed as being just that in Troy's absence.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Sounds to me like the Steelers want to draft a LB????...Hmmmmmm???

[Lebsteel]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Sounds to me like the Steelers want to draft a LB????...Hmmmmmm???

Maybe trying to position themselves to trade up for McClain? I really hope not. I don't want us to lose a 2nd or 3rd round pick because we need several high quality players on D.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Only reason Hampton was re-signed, and Clark might be, is because they have nobody else to step in. Nobody groomed to take over. At FS, the only reason Clark was signed was because nobody was groomed. So the Steelers haven't been able to draft and groom a FS since Hope was here.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Really? Why?

Clark is no longer a young man, has serious health issues, plays like every play is his last, and is not valuable unless Troy is healthy. We have enough dinosaurs under contract on the defensive side. We need to get younger.

I agree Clark isn't a young man but he really hasn't shown signs of slowing down....yet!

Look at it this way. Is our defense better in 2010 with Clark, Mundy, or FA?

How about a rookie? Do they start game 1? Are we equal or better?

OK...Maybe Berry but that won't happen.

How about Thomas? Might be better against the pass with Thomas. We won't get the run support out of Thomas like we did with Clark. Since the AFC North ran on the Steelers in 2009 like Forest Gump carrying Leuitenant Dan dodging bullets...I say no since that accounts for 6 games.

How about Mays? I would say yes if we played the 2009 Browns for 16 games because Mays is a run stuffer and the Browns have a KR playing QB. If you go by last year the worst we could do is 8-8 since we split with the mighty Browns. Sooner or later Cribbs will do his Jim Brown immitation out of the wildcat but we have Mays to stop him....We hope. But since 30 of the other teams have something that resembles a passing game...I think Mays will be a liabilty in year 1....Or 2....Or until his contract expires!

Any other rookie? For the sake of argument...Let's say no.

Now, this is all opinion and some of the Safeties the Steelers could pick in the draft could be Hall of Famers and make an impact year 1. We don't know that. What we do no is this team is a contender. We know what we have in Clark. We know what we have in the other players on the roster. Anyone the Steelers pick is a question mark for 2010. Wouldn't it be safer as an organization to retain a proven player so you don't have the same situation we did last year? Realize that the Steelers only have 2 safeties under contract with game experience as a Steeler on the roster. If Clark leaves...They will have to get a vet in here. What does that pool look like n FA? Much safer to retain a guy who is proven rather than sign a guy who never played for the Steelers. If you can get Clark at a reasonable price under 3 years...Why wouldn't you? Gives you time to bring along the rookie or Mundy until you know he is ready to start. Just my opinion...

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Really? Why?

Clark is no longer a young man, has serious health issues, plays like every play is his last, and is not valuable unless Troy is healthy. We have enough dinosaurs under contract on the defensive side. We need to get younger.

I agree Clark isn't a young man but he really hasn't shown signs of slowing down....yet!

Look at it this way. Is our defense better in 2010 with Clark, Mundy, or FA?

How about a rookie? Do they start game 1? Are we equal or better?

OK...Maybe Berry but that won't happen.

How about Thomas? Might be better against the pass with Thomas. We won't get the run support out of Thomas like we did with Clark. Since the AFC North ran on the Steelers in 2009 like Forest Gump carrying Leuitenant Dan dodging bullets...I say no since that accounts for 6 games.

How about Mays? I would say yes if we played the 2009 Browns for 16 games because Mays is a run stuffer and the Browns have a KR playing QB. If you go by last year the worst we could do is 8-8 since we split with the mighty Browns. Sooner or later Cribbs will do his Jim Brown immitation out of the wildcat but we have Mays to stop him....We hope. But since 30 of the other teams have something that resembles a passing game...I think Mays will be a liabilty in year 1....Or 2....Or until his contract expires!

Any other rookie? For the sake of argument...Let's say no.

Now, this is all opinion and some of the Safeties the Steelers could pick in the draft could be Hall of Famers and make an impact year 1. We don't know that. What we do no is this team is a contender. We know what we have in Clark. We know what we have in the other players on the roster. Anyone the Steelers pick is a question mark for 2010. Wouldn't it be safer as an organization to retain a proven player so you don't have the same situation we did last year? Realize that the Steelers only have 2 safeties under contract with game experience as a Steeler on the roster. If Clark leaves...They will have to get a vet in here. What does that pool look like n FA? Much safer to retain a guy who is proven rather than sign a guy who never played for the Steelers. If you can get Clark at a reasonable price under 3 years...Why wouldn't you? Gives you time to bring along the rookie or Mundy until you know he is ready to start. Just my opinion...

i agree with the point you're making, we will probably be better next season WITH Ryan Clark as opposed to Ryan Mundy, a rookie, or a veteran FS who then needs to learn and understand our complex defense...

how about signing Clark to a one or two year deal then?

[Oviedo]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Did anyone really expect Colbert to say "we are done with Ryan Clark" while negotiations were still going on? This is just PC talk that they would like to resign him but will only do it on the Steelers' terms.

Listening to "The Drive" on ESPN 1250, Mike Logan said he texted Clark to see what was going on and Clark told him they have heard nothing from the Steelers.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

Did anyone really expect Colbert to say "we are done with Ryan Clark" while negotiations were still going on? This is just PC talk that they would like to resign him but will only do it on the Steelers' terms.

Listening to "The Drive" on ESPN 1250, Mike Logan said he texted Clark to see what was going on and Clark told him they have heard nothing from the Steelers.

i believe the roadblock here is Ryan Clark's agents' contract demands...he's probably looking for something in the $4-5 million/year range and the Steelers are not going to pay that amount for an average safety.

if they don't re-sign Clark before the draft, I fully expect the Steelers to seriously consider Earl Thomas in the first or Nate Allen/Chad Jones in the second.

[Chadman]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

The Steelers have tried to put themselves in a position where they don't NEED to draft any specific position by signing FA's to fill holes as required for a number of years now.

Re-signing Clark makes sense, as we all KNOW that the Steelers are reluctant to place a rookie in a starting position. So, sign Clark to a 3 year deal, a la Hampton, draft his replacement in a position of VALUE, instead of REACHING for one in an early round, and go to camp prepared.

Not sure why so many of you are surprised, shocked or even upset by this move. Most of you claim to be somewhat knowledgable about the Steelers, but obviously are not paying attention to what your team does every year.

[Shawn]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

This makes sense to me...even a guy like Thomas will need some time. Why force the issue? Not, to mention by keeping Clark...if Troy goes down Thomas can play SS.

Could this be positioning for drafting an ILB? Possibly...but I see it more as keeping a guy who knows the system until we can develop an adequate replacement. It also means we don't have to draft for need.

I highly doubt we are positioning to move up and grab McClain. The middle rounds are deep with D talent...why would we want to give up those picks?

This is merely a move to make sure we can truly pick up BPA at #18.

[Shawn]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

The Steelers have tried to put themselves in a position where they don't NEED to draft any specific position by signing FA's to fill holes as required for a number of years now.

Re-signing Clark makes sense, as we all KNOW that the Steelers are reluctant to place a rookie in a starting position. So, sign Clark to a 3 year deal, a la Hampton, draft his replacement in a position of VALUE, instead of REACHING for one in an early round, and go to camp prepared.

Not sure why so many of you are surprised, shocked or even upset by this move. Most of you claim to be somewhat knowledgable about the Steelers, but obviously are not paying attention to what your team does every year.

This is $$$.

[feltdizz]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

The Steelers have tried to put themselves in a position where they don't NEED to draft any specific position by signing FA's to fill holes as required for a number of years now.

Re-signing Clark makes sense, as we all KNOW that the Steelers are reluctant to place a rookie in a starting position. So, sign Clark to a 3 year deal, a la Hampton, draft his replacement in a position of VALUE, instead of REACHING for one in an early round, and go to camp prepared.

Not sure why so many of you are surprised, shocked or even upset by this move. Most of you claim to be somewhat knowledgable about the Steelers, but obviously are not paying attention to what your team does every year.

why don't we sign a bunch of FA's?
Cut Casey Hampton because he is fat!
Reed is an alcoholic, cut him.
Timmons sucks
Ryan Clark is terrible without Troy. Clearly a rookie would be a better option.
Screw the offensive stats and the fact Ben likes BA. Fire him.
Lebeau had one bad year, fire him and switch to a 4-3.
Ray Rice beat Farrior... Rice never beats any ILB's, cut Farrior.

Every offseason a few fans act like we are the Redskins... I don't know why but they truly believe we will make sweeping changes and coninue to dominate.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Steelers | Colbert believes deal with Clark will be done

The Steelers have tried to put themselves in a position where they don't NEED to draft any specific position by signing FA's to fill holes as required for a number of years now.

Re-signing Clark makes sense, as we all KNOW that the Steelers are reluctant to place a rookie in a starting position. So, sign Clark to a 3 year deal, a la Hampton, draft his replacement in a position of VALUE, instead of REACHING for one in an early round, and go to camp prepared.

Not sure why so many of you are surprised, shocked or even upset by this move. Most of you claim to be somewhat knowledgable about the Steelers, but obviously are not paying attention to what your team does every year.

This is $$$.

Yeah, but it is this kind instead of this kind