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  • ikestops85
    Hall of Famer
    • Jun 2008
    • 3724

    Would You Trade Troy ...

    for a top 5 pick?

    I mean Troy is a phenomenal player and a very unique player but he has been injury prone and carries a big salary. Given that would you pull the trigger on a trade that would send Troy away and allow you to draft Berry or even Suh?

    Anybody up for the discussion?
    As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

    but Go Steelers!!!
  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #2
    Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

    No, I hope that helps.

    Pappy
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    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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    • birtikidis
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4628

      #3
      Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

      I didn't read the thread.
      just the title.
      and NO.

      i may trade troy for my eternal salvation. i said I MAY! don't flame me!

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35649

        #4
        Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

        there is absolutely no way you trade a proven star like Troy for an unknown commodity like a draft pick plus he's my favorite NFL player to watch on Sundays.

        besides, what would i do with my Polamalu jersey?

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #5
          Re: Would You Trade Troy ...



          You give "carries a big salary" as a mark against Troy, but wouldn't a top 5 pick carry an even larger salary?
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • SteelHead
            Backup
            • Jan 2009
            • 207

            #6
            Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

            There isn't a discussion to be had , the answer is NO.

            Troy is quite possibly the most dynamic defensive player of the last decade. No matter how great the talent, a draft pick is still a ? until he proves it in the NFL.

            Troy is who he is already. The best safety in football , hands down.

            I also love all these comments about how injury prone Troy is. I don't think you could name more than a handful of player that throw their body around and sacrifice themselves more than Troy does and up until last year he had only missed 8 games in 6 seasons.

            Injury Prone ? I think not.

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            • Jom112
              Pro Bowler
              • Jun 2008
              • 1496

              #7
              Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

              I think you guys should...

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              • papillon
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                #8
                Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                Originally posted by Jom112
                I think you guys should...
                Do the Bengals have a top 5 pick coming up in next year's draft? :P If they do, we'll talk Troy for your top 5 pick.



                Pappy
                sigpic

                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                • Lebsteel
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 1007

                  #9
                  Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                  Originally posted by SteelHead
                  There isn't a discussion to be had , the answer is NO.

                  Troy is quite possibly the most dynamic defensive player of the last decade. No matter how great the talent, a draft pick is still a ? until he proves it in the NFL.

                  Troy is who he is already. The best safety in football , hands down.

                  I also love all these comments about how injury prone Troy is. I don't think you could name more than a handful of player that throw their body around and sacrifice themselves more than Troy does and up until last year he had only missed 8 games in 6 seasons.

                  Injury Prone ? I think not.
                  Yea, I'd say he has a higher history of injury than most. He's missed 19 games in 7 years. Would I trade him for Berry or Suh? Absolutely! But probably ONLY those two. Troy is soon to be 29 and probably has 5 or 6 seasons at best, but given his injury history the last four years, maybe not even that. Would it even happen? NO! So this discussion is all in fun.
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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #10
                    Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                    Originally posted by Lebsteel
                    Originally posted by SteelHead
                    There isn't a discussion to be had , the answer is NO.

                    Troy is quite possibly the most dynamic defensive player of the last decade. No matter how great the talent, a draft pick is still a ? until he proves it in the NFL.

                    Troy is who he is already. The best safety in football , hands down.

                    I also love all these comments about how injury prone Troy is. I don't think you could name more than a handful of player that throw their body around and sacrifice themselves more than Troy does and up until last year he had only missed 8 games in 6 seasons.

                    Injury Prone ? I think not.
                    Eight games in six seasons? He missed 11 games just this year. He missed 5 games in 2007 and 3 games in 2006. That totals 19 games in six seasons or about 20% of the games he could have played in. Yea, I'd say he has a higher history of injury than most. Would I trade him for Berry or Suh? Absolutely! But probably ONLY those two. Troy is soon to be 29 and probably has 5 or 6 seasons at best, but given his injury history the last four years, maybe not even that. Would it even happen? NO! So this discussion is all in fun.
                    Five or six years is an eternity in the NFL and trading Troy for Suh or Berry based on his 5 year window would be crazy. Now, if Troy were 33 or 34, then you're talking something worth doing, but by that time Troy will be one of those iconic Steelers (Bradshaw, Greene, Ham, Ward, etc) that simply can't be traded. He's probably already at that status.

                    Pappy
                    sigpic

                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                    • Lebsteel
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 1007

                      #11
                      Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                      Originally posted by papillon
                      Originally posted by Lebsteel
                      Originally posted by SteelHead
                      There isn't a discussion to be had , the answer is NO.

                      Troy is quite possibly the most dynamic defensive player of the last decade. No matter how great the talent, a draft pick is still a ? until he proves it in the NFL.

                      Troy is who he is already. The best safety in football , hands down.

                      I also love all these comments about how injury prone Troy is. I don't think you could name more than a handful of player that throw their body around and sacrifice themselves more than Troy does and up until last year he had only missed 8 games in 6 seasons.

                      Injury Prone ? I think not.
                      Eight games in six seasons? He missed 11 games just this year. He missed 5 games in 2007 and 3 games in 2006. That totals 19 games in six seasons or about 20% of the games he could have played in. Yea, I'd say he has a higher history of injury than most. Would I trade him for Berry or Suh? Absolutely! But probably ONLY those two. Troy is soon to be 29 and probably has 5 or 6 seasons at best, but given his injury history the last four years, maybe not even that. Would it even happen? NO! So this discussion is all in fun.
                      Five or six years is an eternity in the NFL and trading Troy for Suh or Berry based on his 5 year window would be crazy. Now, if Troy were 33 or 34, then you're talking something worth doing, but by that time Troy will be one of those iconic Steelers (Bradshaw, Greene, Ham, Ward, etc) that simply can't be traded. He's probably already at that status.

                      Pappy
                      Yea, crazy if we knew he had five or six years of being able to play 16 games per year. I'm not sure his chances are good to be able to do that. I agree that Troy is probably already one of the Steeler greats, but purely from a business decision, it should be considered. Will it? NO, because we will not have that opportunity, so hopefully we will have a healthy Troy for the next five or six years. If he is healthy he will certainly go down in history as one of the all time Steeler greats.
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                      • Jom112
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1496

                        #12
                        Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                        Originally posted by papillon
                        Originally posted by Jom112
                        I think you guys should...
                        Do the Bengals have a top 5 pick coming up in next year's draft? :P If they do, we'll talk Troy for your top 5 pick.



                        Pappy
                        Might be worth tanking to get him. I'll talk to the higher ups...

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #13
                          Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                          Originally posted by Jom112
                          Originally posted by papillon
                          Originally posted by Jom112
                          I think you guys should...
                          Do the Bengals have a top 5 pick coming up in next year's draft? :P If they do, we'll talk Troy for your top 5 pick.



                          Pappy
                          Might be worth tanking to get him. I'll talk to the higher ups...
                          It would never happen. Mike Brown is too cheap to pay for the inevitable Roto Rooter bill to unclog the shower drains caused by having Domata Peko, Rey Maualuga, Jonathan Fanene, and Troy Polamalu on the same team. :P
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #14
                            Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                            Originally posted by Lebsteel
                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Originally posted by Lebsteel
                            Originally posted by SteelHead
                            There isn't a discussion to be had , the answer is NO.

                            Troy is quite possibly the most dynamic defensive player of the last decade. No matter how great the talent, a draft pick is still a ? until he proves it in the NFL.

                            Troy is who he is already. The best safety in football , hands down.

                            I also love all these comments about how injury prone Troy is. I don't think you could name more than a handful of player that throw their body around and sacrifice themselves more than Troy does and up until last year he had only missed 8 games in 6 seasons.

                            Injury Prone ? I think not.
                            Eight games in six seasons? He missed 11 games just this year. He missed 5 games in 2007 and 3 games in 2006. That totals 19 games in six seasons or about 20% of the games he could have played in. Yea, I'd say he has a higher history of injury than most. Would I trade him for Berry or Suh? Absolutely! But probably ONLY those two. Troy is soon to be 29 and probably has 5 or 6 seasons at best, but given his injury history the last four years, maybe not even that. Would it even happen? NO! So this discussion is all in fun.
                            Five or six years is an eternity in the NFL and trading Troy for Suh or Berry based on his 5 year window would be crazy. Now, if Troy were 33 or 34, then you're talking something worth doing, but by that time Troy will be one of those iconic Steelers (Bradshaw, Greene, Ham, Ward, etc) that simply can't be traded. He's probably already at that status.

                            Pappy
                            Yea, crazy if we knew he had five or six years of being able to play 16 games per year. I'm not sure his chances are good to be able to do that. I agree that Troy is probably already one of the Steeler greats, but purely from a business decision, it should be considered. Will it? NO, because we will not have that opportunity, so hopefully we will have a healthy Troy for the next five or six years. If he is healthy he will certainly go down in history as one of the all time Steeler greats.
                            This year's injury was a strange injury. I'm hoping we'll never see Troy on the kick block team again. Would he have made it through the season otherwise? Who knows, but, I'm with you, if Troy can play even 14 games a year for the next 5 or 6 years the Steeler defense should be okay.

                            Pappy
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                            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              #15
                              Re: Would You Trade Troy ...

                              Originally posted by Jom112
                              Originally posted by papillon
                              Originally posted by Jom112
                              I think you guys should...
                              Do the Bengals have a top 5 pick coming up in next year's draft? :P If they do, we'll talk Troy for your top 5 pick.



                              Pappy
                              Might be worth tanking to get him. I'll talk to the higher ups...
                              After you talk to your people, let me know and I'll get my people and your people together and they can discuss Trading for Troy. :P

                              Pappy
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                              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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