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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27532

    #31
    Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

    [quote=stlrz d]
    Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
    Originally posted by "stlrz d":2w0wkre7
    HIPAA
    Does HIPAA apply to people who are not giving care? I mean, clearly his docs, nurses, insurance companies (if they are even involved) can't talk about it, but I didn't think HIPAA had an binding obligation on reporters, man-in-the-street, etc. Or teammates.
    Not sure...but I know part of being a REAL journalist is only reporting facts and not rumors.[/quote:2w0wkre7]
    Newspapers would be half their size if this was the rule.... and they would probably sell more papers.
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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #32
      Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

      Originally posted by feltdizz
      The compassion for Sweed is noble. I just have to ask...Where was the compassion for Nate Washington when he had a few drops? The guy was producing and still being labelled as a scrub who was replacable with Sweed. Yet Sweed is forgiven because the drops were so painful.

      The kid has caught a few passes.... tough passes too. So it's not like he is afraid of the football or panics when he is open. I think he dropped the first one and never recovered. I'm sure the other players in the lockerroom gave him hell. But he dropped 2 more easy TD's and in this league you have to produce. I'm not writing him off but I can't give him a pass or excuse his drops because of his "rumored anxiety"

      I really feel for the kid because he had some crushing drops. However... the GM in me is over him as a player and feels like he will never live up to his potential or outplay his past failures. If we find another gem in the late rounds how much compassion and rope do we give Sweed?

      This whole situation is filled with a lot of speculation. The fact is the guy keeps dropping the football when he is wide open and until he is ready he won't/shouldn't see the field.
      I'm not sure what you mean. If Nate had some sort or mental or physical reason I believe fans would have been more than compassionate. Now if you are talking about patience...well that's a whole different animal. Generally fans have more patience with Sweed because he has more upside...a greater possibility of becoming a dominant WR. Nate will always be Nate...a decent 3rd WR. I still have visions of Sweed putting on a clinic against my Buckeyes. When seeing him play in college I was stoked about the thought of him in the black and gold. He has size, speed and can obviously get open in the NFL.

      For the record, if Sweed is suffering from an anxiety disorder in no way do I think it was caused by the drops. That would be a fairly ignorant stance. But, his age (being in the prime age group for this disorder to manifest) and the NFL spotlight certainly can exacerbate an underlying issue...ie V. Young Now look at Young...needed some time and help and is now playing solid.

      As for speculation...well that's what we do here. Check out nearly all the threads. We are not reporters just fans that like to speculate and discuss topics related to football.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • SanAntonioSteelerFan
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        • May 2008
        • 8361

        #33
        Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

        Originally posted by stlrz d
        Originally posted by Shawn
        If it's reported to the NFL...wouldn't that make news?
        Well actually it's the NFL that does the testing.

        If it was an illegal substance issue we'd know about it.
        Hey d, if I understand this article [url="http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/vicks-admission-on-marijuana-use-raises-question/"]http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010 ... -question/[/url] right, we wouldn't know about Sweed's or anyone else's positive drug tests by the NFL unless it was a failed 3rd test.

        Not saying Sweed's problem is drugs, (and I'm not saying it's not), but looks like we wouldn't know about it from the NFL, at least for the 1st two failed tests.

        My main point in making this post is that ... how often can anyone keep a secret, much less an entire NFL team/coaches/trainers/front office, etc. etc. That just surprises me that there haven't been any loose lips (even Skippy's - eeeewwww!!!).


        We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

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        • papillon
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          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #34
          Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          The compassion for Sweed is noble. I just have to ask...Where was the compassion for Nate Washington when he had a few drops? The guy was producing and still being labelled as a scrub who was replacable with Sweed. Yet Sweed is forgiven because the drops were so painful.

          The kid has caught a few passes.... tough passes too. So it's not like he is afraid of the football or panics when he is open. I think he dropped the first one and never recovered. I'm sure the other players in the lockerroom gave him hell. But he dropped 2 more easy TD's and in this league you have to produce. I'm not writing him off but I can't give him a pass or excuse his drops because of his "rumored anxiety"

          I really feel for the kid because he had some crushing drops. However... the GM in me is over him as a player and feels like he will never live up to his potential or outplay his past failures. If we find another gem in the late rounds how much compassion and rope do we give Sweed?

          This whole situation is filled with a lot of speculation. The fact is the guy keeps dropping the football when he is wide open and until he is ready he won't/shouldn't see the field.
          I know for me the reason I want to be patient with a player, particularly one taken in the second round with a boat load of talent is to be sure that he can't make anything out of his talent before I jettison him. Patience is a virtue and a curse in this business. Bill Cowher was patient with Kordell Stewart to the detriment of the team in the end, but, it was those flashes of being able to play in the NFL that allowed Cowher to be patient.

          It works the other way as well, Polamalu was ridiculed his first year in the league as a bust after the Steelers traded up to get him, but a bit of patience paid off in a big way. The same may or may not be true of Sweed; I'm willing to see what happens in camp this year and see if he'll "get it". If it's more dropsies and mental mistakes then, by all means, let him go to seek employment elsewhere, maybe a change of scenery is what he needs, who knows. On the other hand, hopefully, he'll start showing off the talent that landed him in Pittsburgh in the second round.

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          • fordfixer
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            • May 2008
            • 10922

            #35
            Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

            Originally posted by justplainnasty
            There was a rumor that Limas has Lymes disease, or some illness related to a insect bite.

            You read it wrong it wasn't Lymes disease, it was Limas disease the inability to catch a football.

            What ever the problem is I hope he has a full recovery

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #36
              Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

              Originally posted by Shawn
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              The compassion for Sweed is noble. I just have to ask...Where was the compassion for Nate Washington when he had a few drops? The guy was producing and still being labelled as a scrub who was replacable with Sweed. Yet Sweed is forgiven because the drops were so painful.

              The kid has caught a few passes.... tough passes too. So it's not like he is afraid of the football or panics when he is open. I think he dropped the first one and never recovered. I'm sure the other players in the lockerroom gave him hell. But he dropped 2 more easy TD's and in this league you have to produce. I'm not writing him off but I can't give him a pass or excuse his drops because of his "rumored anxiety"

              I really feel for the kid because he had some crushing drops. However... the GM in me is over him as a player and feels like he will never live up to his potential or outplay his past failures. If we find another gem in the late rounds how much compassion and rope do we give Sweed?

              This whole situation is filled with a lot of speculation. The fact is the guy keeps dropping the football when he is wide open and until he is ready he won't/shouldn't see the field.
              I'm not sure what you mean. If Nate had some sort or mental or physical reason I believe fans would have been more than compassionate. Now if you are talking about patience...well that's a whole different animal. Generally fans have more patience with Sweed because he has more upside...a greater possibility of becoming a dominant WR. Nate will always be Nate...a decent 3rd WR. I still have visions of Sweed putting on a clinic against my Buckeyes. When seeing him play in college I was stoked about the thought of him in the black and gold. He has size, speed and can obviously get open in the NFL.

              For the record, if Sweed is suffering from an anxiety disorder in no way do I think it was caused by the drops. That would be a fairly ignorant stance. But, his age (being in the prime age group for this disorder to manifest) and the NFL spotlight certainly can exacerbate an underlying issue...ie V. Young Now look at Young...needed some time and help and is now playing solid.

              As for speculation...well that's what we do here. Check out nearly all the threads. We are not reporters just fans that like to speculate and discuss topics related to football.
              I guess it's patience...

              VY was a little different... he had success and never had failure as a QB..
              Sweed was known to drop the ball at Texas..

              I know one thing though... Texas Longhorn players tend to have mental issues lately and I would think long and hard before drafting another one.

              VY, Sweed.. and even Colt McCoy....
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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #37
                Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Originally posted by Shawn
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                The compassion for Sweed is noble. I just have to ask...Where was the compassion for Nate Washington when he had a few drops? The guy was producing and still being labelled as a scrub who was replacable with Sweed. Yet Sweed is forgiven because the drops were so painful.

                The kid has caught a few passes.... tough passes too. So it's not like he is afraid of the football or panics when he is open. I think he dropped the first one and never recovered. I'm sure the other players in the lockerroom gave him hell. But he dropped 2 more easy TD's and in this league you have to produce. I'm not writing him off but I can't give him a pass or excuse his drops because of his "rumored anxiety"

                I really feel for the kid because he had some crushing drops. However... the GM in me is over him as a player and feels like he will never live up to his potential or outplay his past failures. If we find another gem in the late rounds how much compassion and rope do we give Sweed?

                This whole situation is filled with a lot of speculation. The fact is the guy keeps dropping the football when he is wide open and until he is ready he won't/shouldn't see the field.
                I'm not sure what you mean. If Nate had some sort or mental or physical reason I believe fans would have been more than compassionate. Now if you are talking about patience...well that's a whole different animal. Generally fans have more patience with Sweed because he has more upside...a greater possibility of becoming a dominant WR. Nate will always be Nate...a decent 3rd WR. I still have visions of Sweed putting on a clinic against my Buckeyes. When seeing him play in college I was stoked about the thought of him in the black and gold. He has size, speed and can obviously get open in the NFL.

                For the record, if Sweed is suffering from an anxiety disorder in no way do I think it was caused by the drops. That would be a fairly ignorant stance. But, his age (being in the prime age group for this disorder to manifest) and the NFL spotlight certainly can exacerbate an underlying issue...ie V. Young Now look at Young...needed some time and help and is now playing solid.

                As for speculation...well that's what we do here. Check out nearly all the threads. We are not reporters just fans that like to speculate and discuss topics related to football.
                I guess it's patience...

                VY was a little different... he had success and never had failure as a QB..
                Sweed was known to drop the ball at Texas..

                I know one thing though... Texas Longhorn players tend to have mental issues lately and I would think long and hard before drafting another one.

                VY, Sweed.. and even Colt McCoy....
                Why would former Texas QB Vince Young and former Texas WR Limas Sweed have any bearing whatsoever on whether or not we should draft someone like Texas safety Earl Thomas? Casey Hampton went to Texas like those guys, and we did just fine with him.

                That would be like deciding not to draft LSU safety Chad Jones because of the previous failures of LSU QB JaMarcus Russell and LSU WR Craig "Buster" Davis. Alan Faneca went to LSU like those guys, and we did just fine with him.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #38
                  Re: No new news but ... surpise no leaks about Sweed's problem?

                  I'm being a little sarcastic with the Texas dig. However Sweed and VY aren't athletically challenged. They both had mental breakdowns...

                  Just stereotyping.... Like saying WVU players are criminally challenged or Bengal players become drunk once they cross the bridge to northern Kentucky.

                  Recently Texas players have had a hard time when faced with NFL talent.
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