2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

[hawaiiansteel]

Steelers will have overall picks:

#18 in Round 1
#52 in Round 2
#82 in Round 3

Picks in rounds 4-7 to be determined by compensatory picks which are usually announced in late March.

[Oviedo]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That would equate to:

#18 in Round 1: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
#52 in Round 2 (Trade up): Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
#82 in Round 3: Larry Asante, S, Nebraska

All we have heard is running the ball more this season. Guess what. You need running backs to do that. We have one. Spiller would be absolutely awesome in all phase of the offensive game plus special teams.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Steelers will have overall picks:

#18 in Round 1
#52 in Round 2
#82 in Round 3

Picks in rounds 4-7 to be determined by compensatory picks which are usually announced in late March.

18+32=50 so why are we saying 52? It would be 18-50-82....wouldn't it?

[Oviedo]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Steelers will have overall picks:

#18 in Round 1
#52 in Round 2
#82 in Round 3

Picks in rounds 4-7 to be determined by compensatory picks which are usually announced in late March.

18+32=50 so why are we saying 52? It would be 18-50-82....wouldn't it?

Because we are tied with a group three other teams (can'rt recall who) and of those teams we get the first pick in Round 1 and then in Round 2 we drop to the third pick of that group and in Round 3 we get the second pick of that group of three teams.

[SidSmythe]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That would equate to:

#18 in Round 1: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
#52 in Round 2 (Trade up): Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
#82 in Round 3: Larry Asante, S, Nebraska

All we have heard is running the ball more this season. Guess what. You need running backs to do that. We have one. Spiller would be absolutely awesome in all phase of the offensive game plus special teams.

This is NOT an excellent Mock Draft ... as a matter of fact, it sucks!!

Running Back is the easiest position to find in a later round. We've neglected the O-Line once again ... pretty hard to run the ball when your run blocking is weak. Take a look at the Jets O-Line and their running game. Thomas Jones & Shonn Greene (3rd rounder).
What are we going to trade up to get Spikes??

[pfelix73]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Disagree with the OL again. We are fine at OL as we're getting some depth there too with Foster, Legursky, and Stapleton coming back. Then you got last year's 3rd round pick in Urbik.

Sure that G/C from Idaho is intriguing, but I'm not so sure he is there at 18 anyways. Depending on what happens with Colon (probably get offered a contract), we could look at a T somewhere, but we need help on the defensive side of the ball.

S, CB, LB, DL will be the 18th pick. IMO. How about Graham from Michigan? Great Sr. Bowl game.

[Oviedo]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That would equate to:

#18 in Round 1: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
#52 in Round 2 (Trade up): Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
#82 in Round 3: Larry Asante, S, Nebraska

All we have heard is running the ball more this season. Guess what. You need running backs to do that. We have one. Spiller would be absolutely awesome in all phase of the offensive game plus special teams.

This is NOT an excellent Mock Draft ... as a matter of fact, it sucks!!

Running Back is the easiest position to find in a later round. We've neglected the O-Line once again ... pretty hard to run the ball when your run blocking is weak. Take a look at the Jets O-Line and their running game. Thomas Jones & Shonn Greene (3rd rounder).
What are we going to trade up to get Spikes??

New OL Coach will get a year to work with what he has. Very unlikely they go OL when they have just estended pretty much the entire OL and can reatain Colon for probably two more years since the CBA is out the window. Drafting a OL in Round 1 would be a waste. Who are they pushing out of the line up? Get over the angst about the OL. The front office and the coaches don't feel as bad about them as the fans. That hasn't chaged in 4-5 years and won't this year either.

Spiller will provide the biggest impact of any player in Round 1 in all phases of the offense plus special teams. He would be our Joe Cribbs, Percy Harvin, Reggie Bush. We have nothing at the RB position beyond Mendy and if we are going to run the ball more we need quality not quantity.

All we ever hear about on this board is how our #1 picks suck and don't do anything and the one chance we have to get a real impact player in multiple phases of the game everyone wants to draft a 2-3 year project.

[BigLebowski]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That would equate to:

#18 in Round 1: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
#52 in Round 2 (Trade up): Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
#82 in Round 3: Larry Asante, S, Nebraska

All we have heard is running the ball more this season. Guess what. You need running backs to do that. We have one. Spiller would be absolutely awesome in all phase of the offensive game plus special teams.

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Spiller will provide the biggest impact of any player in Round 1 in all phases of the offense plus special teams. He would be our Joe Cribbs, Percy Harvin, Reggie Bush. We have nothing at the RB position beyond Mendy and if we are going to run the ball more we need quality not quantity.

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I would be very happy with Spiller. He has the hands FWP never had, and he can return kicks. So while he brings his explosiveness to the offense, we don't need to save a roster spot for a KR/PR.

I don't think he will fall to us though at 18.

[NW Steeler]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Disagree with the OL again. We are fine at OL as we're getting some depth there too with Foster, Legursky, and Stapleton coming back. Then you got last year's 3rd round pick in Urbik.

Sure that G/C from Idaho is intriguing, but I'm not so sure he is there at 18 anyways. Depending on what happens with Colon (probably get offered a contract), we could look at a T somewhere, but we need help on the defensive side of the ball.

S, CB, LB, DL will be the 18th pick. IMO. How about Graham from Michigan? Great Sr. Bowl game.

We might have bodies for depth, but we are seriously lacking in talent. We need to add some talent to the line. If the BPA at #18 is an OL, then they should draft him. Then again, I wouldn't have an issue with Thomas, Odrick or Weatherspoon either.

[Oviedo]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Disagree with the OL again. We are fine at OL as we're getting some depth there too with Foster, Legursky, and Stapleton coming back. Then you got last year's 3rd round pick in Urbik.

Sure that G/C from Idaho is intriguing, but I'm not so sure he is there at 18 anyways. Depending on what happens with Colon (probably get offered a contract), we could look at a T somewhere, but we need help on the defensive side of the ball.

S, CB, LB, DL will be the 18th pick. IMO. How about Graham from Michigan? Great Sr. Bowl game.

We might have bodies for depth, but we are seriously lacking in talent. We need to add some talent to the line. If the BPA at #18 is an OL, then they should draft him. Then again, I wouldn't have an issue with Thomas, Odrick or Weatherspoon either.

As an observer of the process I honestly believe that the Steelers salary cap structure and the per position allocation of dollars to position is structured that we will not pay Round 1 money to an OLman and tie up those dollars for that position.

I believe that this will remain the policy until a rookie salary structure is put into place. That is why we have not seen Round 1 picks spent on the OL. There is IMO a clear organizational strategy that they will develop OL and then pay those who are successful on their second contract versus tieing up significant cap space on untested rookie linemen, especially a pick as high as #18.

[NW Steeler]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That is a pretty logical explanation Oviedo. But the emphasis that ownership has apparently put on an ability to run the ball with authority would lead me to believe that they see that they are in need of some top-tier talent on their O-line. The Steelers have always had one or two perennial Pro Bowlers on their line. They haven't had one since Faneca and Hartings left. And their running game has fallen off precipitously since then. They need to invest there for the future. You can develop back-ups and possibly even future replacements, but they need to draft starting quality guys. The current group is certainly serviceable, but C, RG and RT could all be upgraded IMO.

[papillon]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

No offensive side of the ball players until the third round; the Steelers do not need two 1st round draft picks to run the ball effectively. A good solid work horse back to spell Mendenhall selected in the 3rd round or later is fine, rounds one and two have to help the defensive side of the ball.

Pappy

[Oviedo]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

That is a pretty logical explanation Oviedo. But the emphasis that ownership has apparently put on an ability to run the ball with authority would lead me to believe that they see that they are in need of some top-tier talent on their O-line. The Steelers have always had one or two perennial Pro Bowlers on their line. They haven't had one since Faneca and Hartings left. And their running game has fallen off precipitously since then. They need to invest there for the future. You can develop back-ups and possibly even future replacements, but they need to draft starting quality guys. The current group is certainly serviceable, but C, RG and RT could all be upgraded IMO.

The new OL coach was part of the solution to running the ball better versus Larry Z'z zone blocking scheme. Kugler will be given a chance to show whathe can do with what they already have plus probably a mid round pick or two. He was picked because he made something out of nothing in Buffalo.

[NW Steeler]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Could be. But I think that the Steelers Oline is already greater than the sum of their parts. They need some new shiny parts.
That said, they could go in about 10 different directions come draft day.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: 2010 Steelers' first three rounds draft picks set

Steelers will have overall picks:

#18 in Round 1
#52 in Round 2
#82 in Round 3

Picks in rounds 4-7 to be determined by compensatory picks which are usually announced in late March.

18+32=50 so why are we saying 52? It would be 18-50-82....wouldn't it?

Because we are tied with a group three other teams (can'rt recall who) and of those teams we get the first pick in Round 1 and then in Round 2 we drop to the third pick of that group and in Round 3 we get the second pick of that group of three teams.

Seems like BS. Use the tie breakers same you would for the playoffs.