NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

[papillon]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

It should have been called whether it was before the fumble after the fumble or while Rodgers was on his way to the locker room. Any contact to the quarterback's face or head has been a penalty all year regardless of when it occurred during the play. That's Peirea trying to protect his guys again. The refereeing is bad and getting worse with each passing year. Not only is it bad, but, inconsistent as well.

Pappy

Actually Pap, you make a great point. I really did not care (as noted earlier) because the Steelers are not in the playoffs. However, if that had happened to Ben on a play that ended a game, I must admit, I would be pretty ticked off. Pretty blatant that there was a foul. The only question (to me) is, is this a post-possession foul? I would have to think yes. Cardinals ball, fifteen yard penalty from the spot of the foul. Still in overtime.

Wolf, I believe since the ball had not changed possession before the facemask it still would have been GB ball

Even if it was post possession the game would not have ended and Green Bay would have still had a chance to play and win after the mistake. But, inconsistency in officiating didn't even give the Packers a chance.

Pappy

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

Should have definatley been a helmet to helmet hit on the play before the final play. Dude pretty much ran in and head butted Rodgers with no flag drawn for it.

[SteelerNation1]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

Should have definatley been a helmet to helmet hit on the play before the final play. Dude pretty much ran in and head butted Rodgers with no flag drawn for it.

That's what I was going to say. The only QB that DOESN'T get that call is Ben, and Rodgers apparently.

[proudpittsburgher]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

At the very worst for GB, arizona gets the ball, but a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the recovery. At least Green Bay has a chance to do something about it, albeit an unlikely chance, btu a chance nonetheless. That whole, "didn't grasp or pull the facemask down" crap is just that, crap. That's why they got rid of the five yard penalty. Any contact with the facemask is a penalty.

[feltdizz]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

Should have definatley been a helmet to helmet hit on the play before the final play. Dude pretty much ran in and head butted Rodgers with no flag drawn for it.

That's what I was going to say. The only QB that DOESN'T get that call is Ben, and Rodgers apparently.

Maybe it's because they are in the 50 sack club. When have 50 sacks refs tend to overlook a few hits. LOL.

I didn't even see the facemask until I saw the ESPN photo. It was pretty bang bang IMO. Now the previous play.. that was blatant head to head and should have been called. I'm happy with the outcome because it shuts up the overtime rule change crowd.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Should have definatley been a helmet to helmet hit on the play before the final play. Dude pretty much ran in and head butted Rodgers with no flag drawn for it.

That's what I was going to say. The only QB that DOESN'T get that call is Ben, and Rodgers apparently.

Maybe it's because they are in the 50 sack club. When have 50 sacks refs tend to overlook a few hits. LOL.

I didn't even see the facemask until I saw the ESPN photo. It was pretty bang bang IMO. Now the previous play.. that was blatant head to head and should have been called. I'm happy with the outcome because it shuts up the overtime rule change crowd.

I think they should change the overtime rules.

Didn't work.

[stlrz d]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

At the very worst for GB, arizona gets the ball, but a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the recovery. At least Green Bay has a chance to do something about it, albeit an unlikely chance, btu a chance nonetheless. That whole, "didn't grasp or pull the facemask down" crap is just that, crap. That's why they got rid of the five yard penalty. Any contact with the facemask is a penalty.

Actually that's not true. They got rid of the 5 yard penalty because it was too subjective. Now they are all 15 yards, but there must be a "grasp, pull and/or twist" to draw the flag.

So how about that horse collar penalty that was called on AZ when the Packers player wasn't actually pulled down by the collar? That gave the Packers another 15 yards and I believe they ended up scoring on that drive, thanks in part to that extra 15 yards.

Where's the outrage?

Like I said, leave the whining and crying about officiating to the Ravens fans...it's their niche...and their Nietzsche.

(Nietzsche questioned the value of objectivity and truth) :P

[stlrz d]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

Heh...Greg Jennings was just touched down by contact from an AZ DB but they missed it. Jennings ran the ball all the way to the 3 YL and two plays later scored a TD with a one handed grab.

Damn officials!!!

[fordfixer]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

Heh...Greg Jennings was just touched down by contact from an AZ DB but they missed it. Jennings ran the ball all the way to the 3 YL and two plays later scored a TD with a one handed grab.

Damn officials!!!

Hmmm you a Ravens fan now?

[proudpittsburgher]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

So how about that horse collar penalty that was called on AZ when the Packers player wasn't actually pulled down by the collar? That gave the Packers another 15 yards and I believe they ended up scoring on that drive, thanks in part to that extra 15 yards.

Where's the outrage?

Certainly not going to lose any sleep over this . . . but the outrage over this call was that it ended the game. The facemask should have been called and given the cardinals the ball 15 yards from the spot fo the foul. Ariz would have still likely won the game, but that is a hell of a way for a season to go down.

[stlrz d]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

So how about that horse collar penalty that was called on AZ when the Packers player wasn't actually pulled down by the collar? That gave the Packers another 15 yards and I believe they ended up scoring on that drive, thanks in part to that extra 15 yards.

Where's the outrage?

Certainly not going to lose any sleep over this . . . but the outrage over this call was that it ended the game. The facemask should have been called and given the cardinals the ball 15 yards from the spot fo the foul. Ariz would have still likely won the game, but that is a hell of a way for a season to go down.

If the Packers hadn't scored on that drive with the HC penalty the game may have never gone to OT and may not have ended the way it did. :P

Calls are made and calls are missed. That's the way it goes.

[JAR]

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I wonder if the Cards fans are whining about the officiating in that game like they were the SB last year?

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

At the very worst for GB, arizona gets the ball, but a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the recovery. At least Green Bay has a chance to do something about it, albeit an unlikely chance, btu a chance nonetheless. That whole, "didn't grasp or pull the facemask down" crap is just that, crap. That's why they got rid of the five yard penalty. Any contact with the facemask is a penalty.

Actually that's not true. They got rid of the 5 yard penalty because it was too subjective. Now they are all 15 yards, but there must be a "grasp, pull and/or twist" to draw the flag.

So how about that horse collar penalty that was called on AZ when the Packers player wasn't actually pulled down by the collar? That gave the Packers another 15 yards and I believe they ended up scoring on that drive, thanks in part to that extra 15 yards.

Where's the outrage?

Like I said, leave the whining and crying about officiating to the Ravens fans...it's their niche...and their Nietzsche.

(Nietzsche questioned the value of objectivity and truth) :P

Did he really? Yikes, so how does he propose getting through life without a valid values system ('cause it doesn't help to have one if you can't use it as a metric, does it?). Oh well, I guess I'll just be a Steeler fan and forget about it.

BTW, d, that was one of the best lines I've read in this forum or elsewhere - Ravens fans with their absence of objectivity ... have their Niche .. in Nietzsche... Can you work Ray Nietchscke into that somehow

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

At the very worst for GB, arizona gets the ball, but a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the recovery. At least Green Bay has a chance to do something about it, albeit an unlikely chance, btu a chance nonetheless. That whole, "didn't grasp or pull the facemask down" crap is just that, crap. That's why they got rid of the five yard penalty. Any contact with the facemask is a penalty.

Actually that's not true. They got rid of the 5 yard penalty because it was too subjective. Now they are all 15 yards, but there must be a "grasp, pull and/or twist" to draw the flag.

So how about that horse collar penalty that was called on AZ when the Packers player wasn't actually pulled down by the collar? That gave the Packers another 15 yards and I believe they ended up scoring on that drive, thanks in part to that extra 15 yards.

Where's the outrage?

Like I said, leave the whining and crying about officiating to the Ravens fans...it's their niche...and their Nietzsche.

(Nietzsche questioned the value of objectivity and truth) :P

"He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk. One cannot fly into flying. That is not mine. That is Nietzsche's."

The most philosophical that Ray Nitschke got was saying things like "Packer fans are nuts, man."

[California-Steel]

Re: NFL response to non-facemask penalty call last night

OK let’s say that it is not a face mask penalty, it still should have been a "Hands to the Face" call. I thought you could not touch the QB on the head at all. Plus any hand on the face mask will at least draw a Hands to the Face call.

But like someone already said, “Who Cares”!