SHould We Draft a TE?

[SteelAbility]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

I wouldn't touch a TE until the 5th or 6th round.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

i disagree

both players stepped up with injuries to starters shocke and LJ smith where their organizations chose to keep them over their more expensive counterparts.


boss and celek both look very athletic and run pretty well. spaeth looks like a pregnant yak running in the open field.
even in his game where he started , all his catches were the short gain variety

This is a retarded comment. Nothing Spaeth has done will back up what you say here at all. Go check out Spaeths numbers in 2008 when Heath went down and Spaeth started for 2 games.

Spaeth would be a great redzone target. It is up to Arians to develop some 2 TE pass plays where both go out and for Ben to throw him the ball. Spaeth is under utilized bigtime.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

We are in glaring need of help at:
CB, FS, ILB, OL, DL, and ST positions

The way the Steelers use the second TE, we can fill the spot with Johnson or with a cheap FA (maybe even off the waiver wire). No way this team ought to be spending draft picks on any TEs this season.

What are the glowing needs on OL. Starks and Kemo are signed long term. They likely want to keep Collon and they have Urbik, Foster, Essex and Stapleton to battle for RG. Would be nice to grab a Center, but Hartwig is signed for at least one more year and Stapleton has been tapped as the follow on.

We have a lot of capable bodies along the o-line, but no one great (we've typically had at least one great o-lineman...Webster then Dawson then Faneca, etc. but that well has been dry for the past several seasons).

In Super Bowl XL, our starting OL was Smith (rd 2), Faneca (rd 1), Hartings (rd 1), Simmons (rd 1), and Starks (rd 3). All of the first and second round o-lineman are now gone. Picking the middle of each round instead of at the back end of each round is a good a time to re-stock the cupboard with a premium o-line pick, in an effort to get maximum benefit out of the elite weapons that we have collected at the skill positions on offense.

I wouldn't mind using an early pick on an o-lineman to increase our overall talent there (such as tackles Bryan Bulaga or Trent Williams in round one or a guard like Mike Iuputi, a center like Maurkice Pouncey, or a tackle like Ciron Black in round two).

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

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If we did go TE this dude wouldn't be a bad draftee. If we want a TE strictly to block, bring in a 3rd OT and get a FB. Who the hell drafts TE's to strictly block? One could easily be had as an UDFA.

[NorthCoast]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

No.

The Steelers have all the pieces on offense already, if you listen to Ben, Tomlin, and Arians. The offensive position I would be willing to address early is a blocking fullback if there was a good one available.

Time to address defensive needs in this draft.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

We are in glaring need of help at:
CB, FS, ILB, OL, DL, and ST positions

The way the Steelers use the second TE, we can fill the spot with Johnson or with a cheap FA (maybe even off the waiver wire). No way this team ought to be spending draft picks on any TEs this season.

What are the glowing needs on OL.

Center and RG positions come immediately to mind. Depth is suspect at the tackle positions--who do we really have to step in if Starks or Colon goes down? OL has been consistently ignored as a priority for years; the Steelers need to get some players who are more than just average, IMO.

With the holes to fill on defense, we may not be able to get more than one good OL player in the draft. In any event, it seems to me that drafting a TE this year would be a big mistake when there are so many other bigger needs on this team.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

We are in glaring need of help at:
CB, FS, ILB, OL, DL, and ST positions

The way the Steelers use the second TE, we can fill the spot with Johnson or with a cheap FA (maybe even off the waiver wire). No way this team ought to be spending draft picks on any TEs this season.

What are the glowing needs on OL.

Center and RG positions come immediately to mind. Depth is suspect at the tackle positions--who do we really have to step in if Starks or Colon goes down? OL has been consistently ignored as a priority for years; the Steelers need to get some players who are more than just average, IMO.

With the holes to fill on defense, we may not be able to get more than one good OL player in the draft. In any event, it seems to me that drafting a TE this year would be a big mistake when there are so many other bigger needs on this team.

I agree we definately need a dominant center again.

As far as RG, I am hoping that Doug Legursky can step in and be utilized as a pulling guard. The guy is a beast and fast as hell for his size.....runs a 4.8 40yds.

I think the backup tackle for both sides is Ramon Foster.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

We are in glaring need of help at:
CB, FS, ILB, OL, DL, and ST positions

The way the Steelers use the second TE, we can fill the spot with Johnson or with a cheap FA (maybe even off the waiver wire). No way this team ought to be spending draft picks on any TEs this season.

What are the glowing needs on OL.

Center and RG positions come immediately to mind. Depth is suspect at the tackle positions--who do we really have to step in if Starks or Colon goes down? OL has been consistently ignored as a priority for years; the Steelers need to get some players who are more than just average, IMO.

With the holes to fill on defense, we may not be able to get more than one good OL player in the draft. In any event, it seems to me that drafting a TE this year would be a big mistake when there are so many other bigger needs on this team.

I agree we definately need a dominant center again.

As far as RG, I am hoping that Doug Legursky can step in and be utilized as a pulling guard. The guy is a beast and fast as hell for his size.....runs a 4.8 40yds.

I think the backup tackle for both sides is Ramon Foster.

Essex would also be a backup tackle when he is no longer a starting guard.

[Oviedo]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

We are in glaring need of help at:
CB, FS, ILB, OL, DL, and ST positions

The way the Steelers use the second TE, we can fill the spot with Johnson or with a cheap FA (maybe even off the waiver wire). No way this team ought to be spending draft picks on any TEs this season.

What are the glowing needs on OL.

Center and RG positions come immediately to mind. Depth is suspect at the tackle positions--who do we really have to step in if Starks or Colon goes down? OL has been consistently ignored as a priority for years; the Steelers need to get some players who are more than just average, IMO.

With the holes to fill on defense, we may not be able to get more than one good OL player in the draft. In any event, it seems to me that drafting a TE this year would be a big mistake when there are so many other bigger needs on this team.

You have Essex, Stapleton, Foster, Urbik and Legursky already on the roster who can challenge for the RG position. Not sure a rookie steps in and challenges that group.

Center is a need but we have no insights on plans for Stapleton, Legursky or even as rumors have indicated Urbik at that positon. I would like to see us look at a Center, but not early.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

[quote=Mister Pittsburgh]

i disagree

both players stepped up with injuries to starters shocke and LJ smith where their organizations chose to keep them over their more expensive counterparts.


boss and celek both look very athletic and run pretty well. spaeth looks like a pregnant yak running in the open field.
even in his game where he started , all his catches were the short gain variety

This is a retarded comment. Nothing Spaeth has done will back up what you say here at all. Go check out Spaeths numbers in 2008 when Heath went down and Spaeth started for 2 games.

Spaeth would be a great redzone target. It is up to Arians to develop some 2 TE pass plays where both go out and for Ben to throw him the ball. Spaeth is under utilized bigtime.[/quote:exgva47d]

i dont have to "check out the stats". i remember the game(s)

maybe you should post them, since it seems you're at the top of his fan club.

the colts game was one he started and that was the game after ben and the offense went to arians and asked for shorter developing routes.

he hit spaeth 6 or 7 times barely 5 yards from the line of scrimmage with quick hitting passes.

i dont know how that makes him a great route runner as you profess.
he's big slower type TE that gets overpowered a lot in the run game.

what do you see thru you're Spaeth goggles

[Steelerphile]

Re: SHould We Draft a TE?

[quote=NJ-STEELER][quote="Mister Pittsburgh"ywelocd]

i disagree

both players stepped up with injuries to starters shocke and LJ smith where their organizations chose to keep them over their more expensive counterparts.


boss and celek both look very athletic and run pretty well. spaeth looks like a pregnant yak running in the open field.
even in his game where he started , all his catches were the short gain variety

This is a retarded comment. Nothing Spaeth has done will back up what you say here at all. Go check out Spaeths numbers in 2008 when Heath went down and Spaeth started for 2 games.

Spaeth would be a great redzone target. It is up to Arians to develop some 2 TE pass plays where both go out and for Ben to throw him the ball. Spaeth is under utilized bigtime.[/quoteywelocd]

i dont have to "check out the stats". i remember the game(s)

maybe you should post them, since it seems you're at the top of his fan club.

the colts game was one he started and that was the game after ben and the offense went to arians and asked for shorter developing routes.

he hit spaeth 6 or 7 times barely 5 yards from the line of scrimmage with quick hitting passes.

i dont know how that makes him a great route runner as you profess.
he's big slower type TE that gets overpowered a lot in the run game.

what do you see thru you're Spaeth goggles[/quoteywelocd]


You're looking through anti-Spaeth goggles. He doesn't get overpowered a lot. That is false. You just want that to be true. It's not. He is a pretty good blocker. He has I think about 15 career receptions in the NFL. So you know, for a fact, from this limited sample, that he has limited offensive ability.

He did a lot from the reception standpoint in college. He just hasn't gotten a lot of chances to show what he can do in the NFL. He doesn't appear to be a great athlete, I don't see that. But you are exaggerating as far as how poor he is. I really think there is more that he can do, but just needs an opening. But there is just no way, another 2ndary TE in this offense would do much, if any more.