No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

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  • SteelTorch
    Pro Bowler
    • Jun 2008
    • 1361

    #16
    Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

    Exactly. We should just move to the 4-3. That will solve all of our defense's problems. After all, it's not like teams ever see the 4-3.
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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #17
      Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

      Originally posted by SteelTorch
      Exactly. We should just move to the 4-3. That will solve all of our defense's problems. After all, it's not like teams ever see the 4-3.
      Torch all I have to say to you is

      :P

      Pappy
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      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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      • ikestops85
        Hall of Famer
        • Jun 2008
        • 3724

        #18
        Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

        I think we should go with the a 7-4 configuration. That way if we find a good NT we could use them but it won't eliminate the college DE players. The 3 inside line players would have the same skillset as the linemen in the 3-4 but we would bracket them with DTs and DEs on both sides.

        We will still employ 4 linebackers so they will remain the strength of the team. As for the DBs ... we can't stop the pass anyway so why bother with them. This should make everyone happy.
        As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

        but Go Steelers!!!

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        • papillon
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #19
          Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

          Originally posted by ikestops85
          I think we should go with the a 7-4 configuration. That way if we find a good NT we could use them but it won't eliminate the college DE players. The 3 inside line players would have the same skillset as the linemen in the 3-4 but we would bracket them with DTs and DEs on both sides.

          We will still employ 4 linebackers so they will remain the strength of the team. As for the DBs ... we can't stop the pass anyway so why bother with them. This should make everyone happy.
          and one for you also

          :P

          Pappy
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          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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          • SteelAbility
            Pro Bowler
            • Oct 2009
            • 2149

            #20
            Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

            I think Troy is a pretty quick fix for our D. Anyone else?

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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #21
              Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

              Troy stayed healthy in 2008...LeBeau used him a bit differently. This season started out the same way. He was injured on a freak play this season and it was a knee...not something you come back quickly from.

              I think Fox will be Farrior's eventual successor. With a young backer drafted (or picked up) to learn from watching and practicing with them.

              Sorry if this stuff was mentioned already...I didn't want to read every post.

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              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #22
                Re: No quick fix to this defense and that means trouble

                Ok, Chadman's early take-

                NT- Hampton is STILL GOOD. If he can be re-signed, he should be. He is the PREMIER 3-4 NT in the NFL- pay him as such- after all, it's an uncapped year. IF Hampton leaves, the Steelers will be forced to draft a NT early. Many have said they'd avoid Mt Cody, but honestly- if he was there, the Steelers could grab another potentially dominant NT for 10 years- he's worth the shot. If a rookie has to start- it will need to be a highly drafted rookie- can't see a 5th rounder being able to contribute, and Hoke is solid, but will need rotating if he has to start.

                ILB- Chadman will say it- SIGN JOEY PORTER BACK. Farrior was shown up as being slow this year- he ain't getting faster next year. No point holding him in because you like the guy- that doesn't make the D better. Porter is a solid tackler, good coverage LB, great team leader & loves the Steelers. Why not? Again- uncapped year makes it possible. Also- he has 2-3 years on Farrior, gives the Steelers the option of drafting a mid to late round LB to learn for a couple of seasons. So Joey is an OLB- so was Farrior before coming here. His role will change, but he is smart enough, and athletic enough, to handle it. And Chadman believes it upgrades the D right away. Also- he can become the instant back-up OLB too.

                FS- BIG NEED. Clark is ok, but with zero playmakers at CB, the Safties need to be the danger guys for the QB. If Troy moves to FS as has been suggested, Taylor Mays might fit. If Troy stays at SS (Chadman's preference), there are several options in Rounds 1-2 at FS. Darrell Stuckey from Kentucky is a very solid character guy, and has plenty of pass break-ups to his name. Major Wright, Earl Thomas- there are options. Draft 'em & plug them in the way Detroit did with Louis Delmas.

                CB- Another big need. Plenty of young CB's on the roster, so drafting another kind of seems a moot point. Signing a CB like Stanford Routt, or Fabian Washington might be the better angle to take.

                OL- Improved? Yes. Good enough? No. That being said, Stapleton is back next year, Ramon Foster looked decent & Urbik was drafted last year. How does this effect the RT position, where Colon has shown to be not so athletic? Might need another option there. OR- do you give Foster a shot at it?

                RB- Don't be fooled- Mendenhall was good this year, but the Steelers running game is incomplete. Chadman was bagged slightly for suggesting CJ Spiller on an earlier thread- but think about it- if added to the roster, is there another player that can have as high a potential impact as Spiller to the Steelers next season? Back-up RB, splitting time with Mendy- split out to WR, KR/PR...3rd down...either way- another RB is required. And a FB/short yardage guy, a la Fu from years past. The FB from Utah looked ok...

                Small changes, not big changes, are required. Smart moves to instantly upgrade the roster- thinking with the head & not the heart. Steelers could be back in the SB next year with only a tinker here & there.
                The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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