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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
    • 10921

    Lebeau says he'll be back

    Steelers Notes: Lebeau says he'll be back

    By: Mike Bires
    Beaver County Times
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    Tuesday January 5, 2010 12:10 AM

    PITTSBURGH — Unless coach Mike Tomlin says no, Dick LeBeau will be back next season as the Steelers’ defensive coordinator.

    Lebeau, who’ll be 73 next September, hasn’t even thought about the day he might retire.

    “He told us in a meeting a couple of weeks ago,” linebacker James Farrior said. “I think the rumors had started going around again about him retiring and not coming back again, so he laid it to bed with me. He told our defense they’re going to have to kick him up out of here, so I took his word for it.”

    LeBeau is in his second stint as the mastermind of the Steeler defense. He served as D-coordinator from 1995-96 and returned to that post in 2004.

    In the past three years, the Steelers have ranked first, first and fifth in the NFL in total defense.

    But when the Steelers’ defense struggled during a five-game losing streak to start the second half of the season, it was suggested that opposing offenses were figuring out his strategies.

    “He said that he’s looking forward to next year,’’ linebacker LaMarr Woodley said. “We just talked to him briefly (on Monday) and he said we’ll come out next year and try it again.”



    Sweed sighting

    WR Santonio Holmes still has high hopes for WR Limas Sweed, who’s struggled since coming to the Steelers as a second-round pick in last year’s draft.

    Sweed’s second season ended prematurely two weeks ago when he was placed on the reserve/non-football illness list for an undisclosed health issue.

    “Limas came into practice one day (last) week and we all got a chance to see him and talk to him,” Holmes said. “I just laughed at him and laughed with him, just to keep his spirits up.

    “I definitely think he’s going to be more motivated to come back next year and prove to a lot of people that he’s capable of being one of those receivers out there with us, making plays and to prove he’s going to be a productive receiver in the NFL one day.”

    Sweed only had one catch for 5 yards this season. He dropped a would-be touchdown pass in a Sept. 27 loss in Cincinnati that would have put the Steelers ahead 27-9.



    Laying down

    LB LaMarr Woodley, who led the Steelers with 13.5 sacks this year, has no regrets about comments he made last week claiming that New England and Cincinnati would “lay down” in their final regular-season games in fear of facing Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

    Woodley was wrong about the Patriots, who lost in Houston 34-27. But the Bengals sure looked like they laid down in losing 37-0 on the road to the New York Jets.

    “You saw the games. I was just calling it how I saw it,” Woodley said. “If you watched the games, I don’t need to say anything more about it.

    “I’m not a guy who starts trouble, but sometimes you have to speak your mind. Sometimes, you’re wrong. And sometimes, you’re right. But if you watched the games, you can tell me if I’m wrong or right.”



    Draft time

    The Steelers will have the 18th overall pick of the 2010 Draft.

    Even though the Falcons and Texans also finished with 9-7 records, the Steelers pick ahead of them in the first round based on playing an easier schedule.

    This year, the draft will be stretched out over three days. On Thursday, April 22, the draft starts with first-round selections only. On April 23, the second and third rounds will be conducted. On April 24, it’ll be rounds four through seven.

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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10921

    #2
    Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

    LeBeau reiterates intention to stay with Steelers

    By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, January 5, 2010
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    How much change is coming for a defense that slipped this season and struggled late in games remains to be seen. What does seem certain is that Dick LeBeau will be back for at least one more season as the Steelers' defensive coordinator.

    LeBeau, who just completed his 51st NFL season as a player or coach, has told his players that he has no plans to retire. And he apparently got out in front of the rumor that starts around this time of year on an annual basis given his age -- and the fact that the 72-year-old LeBeau has accomplished so much during his decorated career.

    "He told us in a meeting a couple of weeks ago," Steelers inside linebacker James Farrior said of LeBeau returning for the 2010 season. "He told our defense they're going to have to kick him up out of here so I took his word for it."

    LeBeau reiterated that message to his players during a brief meeting with them Monday at the Steelers' South Side practice facility.

    "He said that he's looking forward to next year," Steelers outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley said.

    The players are probably just as anxious for it if only so they can forget what just transpired in the 2009 season.

    The Steelers went 9-7 and missed the playoffs a season after winning an NFL-record sixth Super Bowl.

    A defense that carried the team in 2008 has to share in the blame that can be spread around for the Steelers underachieving this season.

    The Steelers finished third in the NFL in rushing defense (89.9 yards per game) and fifth in total defense (305.3). The defense, however, failed to protect fourth-quarter leads in five of the Steelers' seven games.

    One explanation for why the Steelers were not as dominant on defense as they were in 2008 is injuries to strong safety Troy Polamalu and defensive end Aaron Smith.

    Polamalu played in just five games and none after the middle of November because of two injuries to his left knee. Smith, meanwhile, sustained a season-ending arm injury on Oct. 18.

    "Those are basically our two best players on defense, having those two guys out really affected the way we went out there and played," Farrior said. "Having those two impact-type of players not out there, I think it hurt us a little bit."

    Age may have also encroached on a unit that finished first in total and passing defense in 2008 and second in rushing defense.

    Farrior, who just completed his 13th NFL season, struggled to stay with running backs when opposing teams passed the ball. That raised questions as to whether Farrior, who turns 35 tomorrow, and some of his teammates have slowed down.

    "I definitely think that my age is getting up there and I might've lost a step," Farrior said, "but I think my mental part of the game helps me keep up (the) pace."

    Farrior said he hopes the Steelers experience minimal turnover during the offseason.

    Justin Hartwig agreed.

    The veteran center said he thinks that the Steelers are a lot closer to the team that won a Super Bowl than the one that lost five consecutive games at one point during the season and missed the playoffs.

    "I think we have a really good core group," Hartwig said. "With the group that we have, obviously, we're capable of winning a Super Bowl. So, I'd be surprised if there was a lot of turnover. I think we've proven that we can get it done with the group of guys that we have."

    Woodley says no need for incentives

    LaMarr Woodley may have predicted that playoff-bound teams would "lay down" in their final regular-season games to keep the Steelers out of the postseason.

    That doesn't mean the outside linebacker thinks it is a good idea for the NFL to get involved when it comes to games at the end of the regular season.

    During CBS's telecast of the Steelers-Dolphins games last Sunday, commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will look into a system that rewards teams that play to win even if they can't significantly improve their position in the playoffs.

    The awarding of compensatory draft picks to such teams is one idea the NFL's competition committee is likely to consider after the season.

    "I don't think you need to do all that," Woodley said Monday. "I can't see having incentives."

    As for what he said last week and the reaction it caused, Woodley said, "I'm not a guy who starts trouble, but sometimes you have to speak your mind. Sometimes, you're wrong. And sometimes, you're right. But if you watched the games, you can tell me if I'm wrong or right."

    The Steelers needed wins by the Bengals and Patriots to get into the playoffs.

    The Patriots blew a 14-point fourth quarter lead in a 34-27 loss to the Houston Texans. The Bengals were drilled 37-0 by the New York Jets.

    DIGITS

    13 -- Steelers NFL rank in touchdowns scored (27) when they were in the red zone this season.

    20 -- Steelers' NFL rank in turnover differential (-3).

    QUOTE

    "He gave his playmakers an opportunity to make plays and we took full advantage of every opportunity that he's given us throughout this season. The job that he's done with us and helped molding us into complete players is something he definitely can take a lot of credit for."

    Santonio Holmes

    Steelers wide receiver on offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.

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    • SteelBucks
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 8075

      #3
      Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

      I know some want change, but I'm thrilled LeBeau will be back. Great news!

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      • Jooser
        Legend
        • Jul 2008
        • 5102

        #4
        Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

        The silence surrounding the Arians situation is troubling to me.
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        • bostonsteeler
          Pro Bowler
          • Oct 2008
          • 1529

          #5
          Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

          Originally posted by Jooser
          The silence surrounding the Arians situation is troubling to me.
          Brainless Arians stays.. sadly ..

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          • stlrz d
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 9244

            #6
            Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

            Originally posted by Jooser
            The silence surrounding the Arians situation is troubling to me.
            I'm holding out hope they want a replacement before pulling the trigger.

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              #7
              Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

              Based on performance the unit LeBeau was responsible for failed more than the one Arians was responsible for. Why does anyone think LeBeau's defense will be better next year? Aaron Smith will be a year older and has missed extended periods of time 2 of the last 4 years. Troy has missed extended time 2 of the last 3 years. If these are the keys to his defense and it fails without them what is he going to do different?

              I think Arians should move on but at least give him credit that he has kept the ofense moving forward with a mediocre OL, injuries to RBs, etc.

              Personally, I'd like to see both move on.
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              • stlrz d
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 9244

                #8
                Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Based on performance the unit LeBeau was responsible for failed more than the one Arians was responsible for. Why does anyone think LeBeau's defense will be better next year? Aaron Smith will be a year older and has missed extended periods of time 2 of the last 4 years. Troy has missed extended time 2 of the last 3 years. If these are the keys to his defense and it fails without them what is he going to do different?

                I think Arians should move on but at least give him credit that he has kept the ofense moving forward with a mediocre OL, injuries to RBs, etc.

                Personally, I'd like to see both move on.
                Track record?

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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                  Have many of you been watching Steeler football for only 3 years? When have the Steelers ever made wholesale changes with their coaching staff? Based on what I've been reading and my thoughts included the following should happen this year:

                  Tomlin fired if he doesn't replace Arians
                  Arians fired
                  Lebeau fired
                  Zeirlein fired
                  Horton fired
                  Ligashesky fired
                  Jones fired
                  Mitchell retained
                  Butler promoted from LB coach to DC
                  Anderson promoted to OC by some, fired by others

                  yea, this will happen.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    #10
                    Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                    If Sweed caught that pass we would have been up 27 to 9!!!! Yet we blame the OC for lack of production? Another obvious point in a game where the players, not the coach, failed this season.

                    I agree with Pappy.. people have personal agenda's that have nothing to do with how the ges have played out. The last few days I have seen:

                    Timmons needs to be demoted to passing downs
                    Logan is a luxury who may not be worth it
                    Lebeau had a down year but it's BA's fault

                    Oh.. and BA makes fun of Tomlin behind his back and Ben laughs the loudest.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • phillyesq
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 7568

                      #11
                      Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                      Originally posted by SteelBucks
                      I know some want change, but I'm thrilled LeBeau will be back. Great news!


                      I'm very happy to see Lebeau come back.

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                      • steelblood
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4166

                        #12
                        Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Based on performance the unit LeBeau was responsible for failed more than the one Arians was responsible for. Why does anyone think LeBeau's defense will be better next year? Aaron Smith will be a year older and has missed extended periods of time 2 of the last 4 years. Troy has missed extended time 2 of the last 3 years. If these are the keys to his defense and it fails without them what is he going to do different?

                        I think Arians should move on but at least give him credit that he has kept the ofense moving forward with a mediocre OL, injuries to RBs, etc.

                        Personally, I'd like to see both move on.
                        I'm not sure how you measure that. LeBeau's defense was very good for 3 quarters and then awful for the 4th. Arian's offense was very good between the twenties and awful in the red zone and very poor against some terrible defenses. Neither made good in game adjustments.
                        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #13
                          Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                          Originally posted by steelblood
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Based on performance the unit LeBeau was responsible for failed more than the one Arians was responsible for. Why does anyone think LeBeau's defense will be better next year? Aaron Smith will be a year older and has missed extended periods of time 2 of the last 4 years. Troy has missed extended time 2 of the last 3 years. If these are the keys to his defense and it fails without them what is he going to do different?

                          I think Arians should move on but at least give him credit that he has kept the ofense moving forward with a mediocre OL, injuries to RBs, etc.

                          Personally, I'd like to see both move on.
                          I'm not sure how you measure that. LeBeau's defense was very good for 3 quarters and then awful for the 4th. Arian's offense was very good between the twenties and awful in the red zone and very poor against some terrible defenses. Neither made good in game adjustments.
                          but Arians was consistent.. LOL!!!

                          seriously though... as stated by a person in another thread when Ben was blamed for RZ woe's...

                          players dropped passes, Sweed, Mendenall, Heath... OL missed blocks and RB's missed holes...

                          our D wasn't very good for 3 qtrs either.. they gave up countless 3rd and longs and didn't have any INT's by the DB's outside of Troy until the last game.

                          This was the worst D in Steeler History based on talent and opponents...
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • SteelAbility
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2149

                            #14
                            Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                            Lebeau personnel adjustments:

                            Lost Troy (a candidate for DPOY in 0
                            Lost A. Smith, a known big-time run-stuffer.
                            McFadden being replaced by William Gay, another huge loss.

                            Net Result: Huge losses in quality of personnel

                            BA's personnel adjustments:

                            Mendy for Parker (a net gain, especially since he didn't totally lose Parker)
                            Gained Mike Wallace, a very pleasant surprise. This took us from a 2-receiver team to a 3-receiver team.

                            Net Result: Significant gain

                            Apples / Oranges? No. more like small apples and big oranges. It's not even a comparison or debate here. Plus there's the long-term track record for Lebeau. The 4thQ problems have arisen from the loss of Troy and Smith. The D has to work extra hard in the first 3 without those guys. Then it peters out in the 4th AND still doesn't have the extra quality defending. Not too hard to connect the dots there.

                            That being said, I do fault Lebeau for starting Gay as long as he did. I also fault Lebeau for the blanket policy of starting Timmons. A mix of Fox/Timmons would have done much better, IMO.

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                            • SteelCzar76
                              Starter
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 655

                              #15
                              Re: Lebeau says he'll be back

                              I'm glad to see Coach Lebeau return. As i said before,...his system is one of the greatest ever devised. If we can put a few more players on the field with the ability to properly execute it,...any shortcomings that we had this season on that side of the ball are no longer an issue. Plain and simple.

                              As i said before this season began,... Troy and Aaron's presence went along way towards allowing not only Wood, Silverback and Potsie to be as effective as they are capable of,... but also protected a secondary that has been full of suspect DB's for years.

                              They go down, (Troy and Diesel) Timmons is on the field,...and now teams can run a bit more effectively at crucial points in the game and basically throw on us at will. It's not rocket science ladies and gentlemen,.......
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