Timmons is a great awful player

[SidSmythe]

OK, I was against Lawrence Timmons before I was FOR Lawrence Timmons.
Now I have this love/hate relationship w Timmons.

TIMMONS athleticism is amazing, but his head isn't.

ie. First play for the Dolphins today, Timmons attacks the weak side lead blocker as Ricky Williams hits the stong side "A" gap for a long gain. Timmons?? What are you doing??? This guy gets lost in crowds and just doesn't have great instincts.

He's done this all year and often takes terrible angles. he's just not consistent in making great decisions.

[BURGH86STEEL]

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OK, I was against Lawrence Timmons before I was FOR Lawrence Timmons.
Now I have this love/hate relationship w Timmons.

TIMMONS athleticism is amazing, but his head isn't.

ie. First play for the Dolphins today, Timmons attacks the weak side lead blocker as Ricky Williams hits the stong side "A" gap for a long gain. Timmons?? What are you doing??? This guy gets lost in crowds and just doesn't have great instincts.

He's done this all year and often takes terrible angles. he's just not consistent in making great decisions.

This was his first season as a full time starter. I am not sure he is best suited to play MLB in the 3-4 defense. Only time will tell.

[phillyesq]

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Timmons is a beast... if he is unblocked. For somebody drafted as highly as he was, he should be performing at or near the pro bowl level, especially in the Steelers linebacker friendly scheme. He is big on potential and athleticism, but not so big with contributions.

[Shawn]

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Timmons strength isn't his run stopping ability that is for sure. But, he is fierce when turned loose to blitz and is terrific in pass coverage.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

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Timmons strength isn't his run stopping ability that is for sure. But, he is fierce when turned loose to blitz and is terrific in pass coverage.

I would almost consider moving Timmons to OLB and Harrison inside.

[feltdizz]

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Timmons needs to shed blocks better and stay in his gap.. but in his first full year he did pretty good. He will get better. I like Fox inside and hope he gets more reps.

[Captain Lemming]

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Timmons strength isn't his run stopping ability that is for sure. But, he is fierce when turned loose to blitz and is terrific in pass coverage.

Nickelbacker?

[steelblood]

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Timmons needs to shed blocks better and stay in his gap.. but in his first full year he did pretty good. He will get better. I like Fox inside and hope he gets more reps.

Timmons played a lot last year. This is his third year here. We can't give him a pass any more.

[MicroBioSteel]

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Timmons strength isn't his run stopping ability that is for sure. But, he is fierce when turned loose to blitz and is terrific in pass coverage.

I would almost consider moving Timmons to OLB and Harrison inside.

I also would like to see what Harrison would do inside. Harrison's strength WAS pass rushing but the holding "no calls" and the fact that the NFL is not going to enforce their own rules reduces his effectiveness.

Farrior is done as far as I'm concerned. I would like to see Woodly,Fox,Harrison,Timmons. Combined with Hood, Smith/Kiesel, and Hampton's replacement/Hoke we could have a resurgence in the pass rush.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

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Timmons strength isn't his run stopping ability that is for sure. But, he is fierce when turned loose to blitz and is terrific in pass coverage.

I would almost consider moving Timmons to OLB and Harrison inside.

I also would like to see what Harrison would do inside. Harrison's strength WAS pass rushing but the holding "no calls" and the fact that the NFL is not going to enforce their own rules reduces his effectiveness.

Farrior is done as far as I'm concerned. I would like to see Woodly,Fox,Harrison,Timmons. Combined with Hood, Smith/Kiesel, and Hampton's replacement/Hoke we could have a resurgence in the pass rush.

I also hope Colbert/Tomlin are very concerned about our secondary. As far as I am concerned after this season Deshea and Carter don't belong on an NFL field. With Gay's play I think about the same of him. Maybe they can see something that fixes his issues....I don't think they can fix father time though.

[Shawn]

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They won't move a pro bowl OLB to the inside. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see that experiment...just don't see it happening.

[stlrz d]

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Timmons needs to shed blocks better and stay in his gap.. but in his first full year he did pretty good. He will get better. I like Fox inside and hope he gets more reps.

Timmons played a lot last year. This is his third year here. We can't give him a pass any more.

I'm not giving him a pass, but last season he was pretty much a 3rd down specialist.

[feltdizz]

Re: Timmons is a great awful player

Timmons needs to shed blocks better and stay in his gap.. but in his first full year he did pretty good. He will get better. I like Fox inside and hope he gets more reps.

Timmons played a lot last year. This is his third year here. We can't give him a pass any more.

Timmons is a beast.. he has lapses in the run game but he is the least of our worries on defense. There was a time when I wanted Fox in for him on run support but overall the man is playing as
expected for draft position.

[Chadman]

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Opinions on players will vary greatly depending on what you are looking for.

Last season (and several before that) many complained about Larry Foote & his lack of athletisism.

So he's replaced with Timmons who isn't as good a run defender as Foote- so we get complaints about that now, but his athletic skills are off the charts.

Timmons is fine. Athletically, he's a mismatch for most on the field. His coverage skills are far better than Foote & Farrior & Fox, his blitzing skills outmatch most of his team mates & he has that 'splash play' quality that is often missing.

But the downside is that he isn't 'great' against the run- so far as reading angles goes.

But that can be taught.

And he's what? 23?

So those of you that want a stout run defender will be upset, but those of you that look for a playmaker are probably happy.

It's a very similar situation to that of Ike Taylor- good cover CB, but terrible hands are a massive liability.

[papillon]

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Timmons needs to shed blocks better and stay in his gap.. but in his first full year he did pretty good. He will get better. I like Fox inside and hope he gets more reps.

Timmons played a lot last year. This is his third year here. We can't give him a pass any more.

He wasn't the problem with the defense. No need to consider giving him a pass, he moved or was moved inside and was not a liability. The run defense except for last week was good enough to win games. The pass defense was not.

He is certainly going to have to get better at the point of attack if he's going to stay inside. I'll take him, he played pretty well. We'll see more from him next year.

Pappy