BA is not the problem and should return

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

SteelAbility are you saying LeBeau gets a pass since he doesn't have Troy and Smith? Really?
If that is the case then BA is a freaking genius. BA has lost key players on offense in damn near every other game the last 2 years.. The OL has been rebuilt and plug and play the last 2 years as well...

We aren't asking for last years heroics on D. Just a stop in the fourth.. If LeBeau can't put our players in a position to do that or they can't do it de to scheme or skill it's a problem.

BA is far from a genius but Sweed was still open a few times.. He just dropped the passes. Dixon struggled but he ran into the endzone for the go ahead TD...

Maybe Lebeau is so complex the players who aren't Troy can't comprehend the D.. Or maybe Lebeau got a little lazy and had Troy do all the work..

Who has our offense been missing other than linemen? Willie Parker? I think saying the defense is missing Troy & Aaron Smith is like saying the offense is missing Ben & Hines.

[feltdizz]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

SteelAbility are you saying LeBeau gets a pass since he doesn't have Troy and Smith? Really?
If that is the case then BA is a freaking genius. BA has lost key players on offense in damn near every other game the last 2 years.. The OL has been rebuilt and plug and play the last 2 years as well...

We aren't asking for last years heroics on D. Just a stop in the fourth.. If LeBeau can't put our players in a position to do that or they can't do it de to scheme or skill it's a problem.

BA is far from a genius but Sweed was still open a few times.. He just dropped the passes. Dixon struggled but he ran into the endzone for the go ahead TD...

Maybe Lebeau is so complex the players who aren't Troy can't comprehend the D.. Or maybe Lebeau got a little lazy and had Troy do all the work..

Who has our offense been missing other than linemen? Willie Parker? I think saying the defense is missing Troy & Aaron Smith is like saying the offense is missing Ben & Hines.

We don't fall apart when Ben is out. Without Troy are Defensive Backfield is a circus.

[stlrz d]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

BA meet Life's Work. Life's Work meet BA.

Now why don't you two spend a little time getting to know one another....

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

BA was outgame planned by THE BROWNS. In case anyone forgot, . But BA game planning (inability to compensate for a **GASP** unexpected defense) made them look like the '85 Bears.

I'm not saying I'm right for sure, but anyone who says BA should be a Steeler OC next year needs to give a decent explanation for the Browns game. I can't think of one.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

SteelAbility are you saying LeBeau gets a pass since he doesn't have Troy and Smith? Really?
If that is the case then BA is a freaking genius. BA has lost key players on offense in damn near every other game the last 2 years.. The OL has been rebuilt and plug and play the last 2 years as well...

We aren't asking for last years heroics on D. Just a stop in the fourth.. If LeBeau can't put our players in a position to do that or they can't do it de to scheme or skill it's a problem.

BA is far from a genius but Sweed was still open a few times.. He just dropped the passes. Dixon struggled but he ran into the endzone for the go ahead TD...

Maybe Lebeau is so complex the players who aren't Troy can't comprehend the D.. Or maybe Lebeau got a little lazy and had Troy do all the work..

Who has our offense been missing other than linemen? Willie Parker? I think saying the defense is missing Troy & Aaron Smith is like saying the offense is missing Ben & Hines.

We don't fall apart when Ben is out. Without Troy are Defensive Backfield is a circus.

True. Ben's backup the game he was out was a young, gifted QB who might have been a 1st round pick had he not gotten injured. Troy's backup is a 33yr old that can't cover a wet paper bag. I think that Troy makes all the adjustment calls in the secondary as well, which with him being out, I think that task was handed to Ryan Clark.

I was watching NFL network the other day and there is a show called 'Sound FX', and they had Clark with a mic on him. On the final score for the Raiders, Clark started to try and yell something to Mundy, but the play was snapped before he got to convey the info and it ended up a TD that Mundy blew.

I guess the point is in Lebeaus defense a lot of it might be reactionary to what the offense is doing, causing a lot of adjustments after they initially line up for the DB's. If Ben goes down, they simply call the play in to Dixon and he runs the play. I doubt Dixon was doing any audible calling or anything. That is why our offense was so generic in that game.

[decleater]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

All I have to say about the title and ensuing suppositions is, holy crap! We need to get back to Steeler football at least to the point where we can run the ball if we WANT to. Sure, I want us to be able to pass the ball but, c'mon!

Bruce Arians should return alright, return to Cleveland where he can do the most harm!

[feltdizz]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

All I have to say about the title and ensuing suppositions is, holy crap! We need to get back to Steeler football at least to the point where we can run the ball if we WANT to. Sure, I want us to be able to pass the ball but, c'mon!

Bruce Arians should return alright, return to Cleveland where he can do the most harm!

When we gave our QB $100 Million dollars, Steeler Football as we knew it was forever changed.

I agree we need to run more.. but if we get back to Steeler D we will be much better. If our D made a few stops we complain about BA but we are also 11-4. No amount of Steeler Football could hide our weakness on D. We are 4th in TOP.. so whether it's running or passing our D still has to stop the other team. This year they couldn't do it at all against the worst offenses in football.

[decleater]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

All I have to say about the title and ensuing suppositions is, holy crap! We need to get back to Steeler football at least to the point where we can run the ball if we WANT to. Sure, I want us to be able to pass the ball but, c'mon!

Bruce Arians should return alright, return to Cleveland where he can do the most harm!

When we gave our QB $100 Million dollars, Steeler Football as we knew it was forever changed.

I agree we need to run more.. but if we get back to Steeler D we will be much better. If our D made a few stops we complain about BA but we are also 11-4. No amount of Steeler Football could hide our weakness on D. We are 4th in TOP.. so whether it's running or passing our D still has to stop the other team. This year they couldn't do it at all against the worst offenses in football.

I don't know where anyone gets the idea that Ben got $100 M just to pass the football. He was paid $100 M dollars to win football games and to do that on any consistent basis we need to be able to effectively run the football when we WANT! Add to that the fact that BA game plans with a dart board, can't adjust at halftime, can't control his QB if needed and where does that leave us?

PS The D does need some work.

[frankthetank1]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

All I have to say about the title and ensuing suppositions is, holy crap! We need to get back to Steeler football at least to the point where we can run the ball if we WANT to. Sure, I want us to be able to pass the ball but, c'mon!

Bruce Arians should return alright, return to Cleveland where he can do the most harm!

When we gave our QB $100 Million dollars, Steeler Football as we knew it was forever changed.

I agree we need to run more.. but if we get back to Steeler D we will be much better. If our D made a few stops we complain about BA but we are also 11-4. No amount of Steeler Football could hide our weakness on D. We are 4th in TOP.. so whether it's running or passing our D still has to stop the other team. This year they couldn't do it at all against the worst offenses in football.

so steeler football was having a sub par or average qb? im too young to have seen bradshaw play so all i have seen are scrubs play qb. sure korkie had one or two good seasons and o'donnell was servicable. turnover tommy had one good year but other than that its a pathetic list. if they didnt pay ben the money he deserves we wouldnt have an elite qb

[BATMAN]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

I will admit, I love a powerful running game or the fact to have an offensive line that can impose their will/muscle upon an opposing team. We could run with the best of them during the Cowher era and heck, we were the best at it but, it only got us one Super Bowl win.
If passing will win us more Super Bowls then I'm fine with that but, I still want an offensive line, cordinator, quarterback that see fit to run the ball when needed.
The best defense at times is a run game that can keep the ball and control the clock. Nothing demoralizes a team when you can beat them up front and stuff the football down their throats.

Arians is lost when it comes down to adjusting during a game. He is lost when it comes to controlling a game. The dude stinks.

[feltdizz]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

All I have to say about the title and ensuing suppositions is, holy crap! We need to get back to Steeler football at least to the point where we can run the ball if we WANT to. Sure, I want us to be able to pass the ball but, c'mon!

Bruce Arians should return alright, return to Cleveland where he can do the most harm!

When we gave our QB $100 Million dollars, Steeler Football as we knew it was forever changed.

I agree we need to run more.. but if we get back to Steeler D we will be much better. If our D made a few stops we complain about BA but we are also 11-4. No amount of Steeler Football could hide our weakness on D. We are 4th in TOP.. so whether it's running or passing our D still has to stop the other team. This year they couldn't do it at all against the worst offenses in football.

so steeler football was having a sub par or average qb? im too young to have seen bradshaw play so all i have seen are scrubs play qb. sure korkie had one or two good seasons and o'donnell was servicable. turnover tommy had one good year but other than that its a pathetic list. if they didnt pay ben the money he deserves we wouldnt have an elite qb

it sounds like you think I believe we shouldn't have paid Ben.. He deserves the money!! I just think paying him that much puts the blame/game/ball in his hands a lot more.

I think Steeler football is 60 minutes of pain. Whether it's Hines peeling back to crush a LB or knocking a WR on is azzz. Whether we won or lost teams knew they would feel pain...

[feltdizz]

Re: BA is not the problem and should return

I will admit, I love a powerful running game or the fact to have an offensive line that can impose their will/muscle upon an opposing team. We could run with the best of them during the Cowher era and heck, we were the best at it but, it only got us one Super Bowl win.
If passing will win us more Super Bowls then I'm fine with that but, I still want an offensive line, cordinator, quarterback that see fit to run the ball when needed.
The best defense at times is a run game that can keep the ball and control the clock. Nothing demoralizes a team when you can beat them up front and stuff the football down their throats.

Arians is lost when it comes down to adjusting during a game. He is lost when it comes to controlling a game. The dude stinks.

The best defense is defense. The most unfair bashing of BA comes down to one person. Jerome Bettis.

He is gone... The thin skinned but spectacular Faneca is gone... Half the fans keep going back to the glory years of the best big back to ever where a Steeler uniform as proof of how to close out a game. I do think we need to give Mend more touches in the fourth...

The funny thing is a lot of the people saying BA sucks, run more, get creative.... Will jump on anyone who says Ben needs less pass attempts or we need to run more when it's posted in another thread. It's a passing league if you criticize Ben... and too much passing when criticizing BA.