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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23824

    Faneca was the problem

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    Good read on the OL. It clearly indicates that Faneca was the problem last year and resisted the new things the coach was trying to do. Maybe Mahan was the scapegoated, but possibly he was doing the right things with the guy on his left not doing what he was suppose to do.

    I've been saying that the OL will be better this year and I still think so. Good ridance with Faneca being gone. I hope he enjoys losing because all indications are he starting being a loser last year.
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  • SteelHoss
    Backup
    • May 2008
    • 269

    #2
    Re: Faneca was the problem

    Originally posted by Oviedo
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_579742.html

    Good read on the OL. It clearly indicates that Faneca was the problem last year and resisted the new things the coach was trying to do. Maybe Mahan was the scapegoated, but possibly he was doing the right things with the guy on his left not doing what he was suppose to do.

    I've been saying that the OL will be better this year and I still think so. Good ridance with Faneca being gone. I hope he enjoys losing because all indications are he starting being a loser last year.
    It had to figure he had a finger or two in it. As much as I liked Alan I thought his play was slowly but, surely slipping. IMO his pass D amongst others was terrible last season. Now we know why. I was happy to see him go after all the bad vibes. I hope he is happy being a loser in NY. Thanks to Colon for speaking up.
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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Faneca was the problem

      Originally posted by SteelHoss
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_579742.html

      Good read on the OL. It clearly indicates that Faneca was the problem last year and resisted the new things the coach was trying to do. Maybe Mahan was the scapegoated, but possibly he was doing the right things with the guy on his left not doing what he was suppose to do.

      I've been saying that the OL will be better this year and I still think so. Good ridance with Faneca being gone. I hope he enjoys losing because all indications are he starting being a loser last year.
      It had to figure he had a finger or two in it. As much as I liked Alan I thought his play was slowly but, surely slipping. IMO his pass D amongst others was terrible last season. Now we know why. I was happy to see him go after all the bad vibes. I hope he is happy being a loser in NY. Thanks to Colon for speaking up.
      I really think it shows leadership on Colon's part for setting the record straight. I'd like to see Colon move inside to Guard and get Starks back at RT. Sounds like Starks came in ready to do something.

      I hope Faneca becomes an embrassment in NY with poor play.
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      • Steely76

        #4
        Re: Faneca was the problem

        Not defending Faneca, I didn't like his attitude last year, but Mahan looking like a revolving door had nothing to do with Faneca.

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        • SteelerNation1
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1574

          #5
          Re: Faneca was the problem

          Originally posted by Steely76
          Not defending Faneca, I didn't like his attitude last year, but Mahan looking like a revolving door had nothing to do with Faneca.
          I agree Steely. Mahan was bad last yr. However, Faneca was terrible in pass blocking as well. Good luck alan playing with noodle arm Pennington who wont save you 15 sacks like Ben did.
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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #6
            Re: Faneca was the problem

            I'm sure Faneca played a role but come on...Mahan was a revolving door. How is Faneca supposed to keep Mahan from gettin planted on his backside?
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            • papillon
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              #7
              Re: Faneca was the problem

              Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
              I'm sure Faneca played a role but come on...Mahan was a revolving door. How is Faneca supposed to keep Mahan from gettin planted on his backside?
              I don't think it was his play so much as his attitude and potential undermining of what Zeirlein was expecting of the entire offensive line. I'm not a Zeirlein fan, but, if your all-pro veteran OG isn't on board with your teaching style and blocking schemes it could pose a problem and it may very well have, we don't know. Willie Colon seems to think so.

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              • Ghost
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6338

                #8
                Re: Faneca was the problem

                And Colon said Faneca did anything but try to sabotage Zierlein in the coach's first season in charge of the Steelers' offensive line.
                This sentence from the article makes no sense. He did everything BUT try to sabotage? That means Faneca was trying to help the way it's written. Mistype?

                It's always easy to blame the player that left and was vocal about it. Maybe he had a down year but I find it hard to put all the blame on one of the Steelers all-time greatest lineman.
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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Re: Faneca was the problem

                  Originally posted by Ghost
                  And Colon said Faneca did anything but try to sabotage Zierlein in the coach's first season in charge of the Steelers' offensive line.
                  This sentence from the article makes no sense. He did everything BUT try to sabotage? That means Faneca was trying to help the way it's written. Mistype?

                  It's always easy to blame the player that left and was vocal about it. Maybe he had a down year but I find it hard to put all the blame on one of the Steelers all-time greatest lineman.
                  I guess if Faneca was trying to help, wouldn't Colon simply have stated that Faneca did everything possible to make Zeirlein's first year a success, rather than the non-sensical statement that was printed.

                  I read it, didn't understand the statement, but assumed that Colon would have been able to convey a positive message with more clarity than the statement given.

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                  3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                  4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                  5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                  7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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                  • ikestops85
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3724

                    #10
                    Re: Faneca was the problem

                    We all knew Faneca was unhappy but I didn't think he would actually try and undermine the coaches. Certainly interesting comments made by Colon. He really sticks his neck out making them being a relative new guy throwing a Pro Bowl lineman and former teammate under the bus. I hope the statements are true and the other linemen don't hang Willie out to dry and back him up. My worry is Faneca still has good friends on the team and this will cause a rift amongst the linemen.
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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #11
                      Re: Faneca was the problem

                      Originally posted by papillon
                      Originally posted by Ghost
                      And Colon said Faneca did anything but try to sabotage Zierlein in the coach's first season in charge of the Steelers' offensive line.
                      This sentence from the article makes no sense. He did everything BUT try to sabotage? That means Faneca was trying to help the way it's written. Mistype?

                      It's always easy to blame the player that left and was vocal about it. Maybe he had a down year but I find it hard to put all the blame on one of the Steelers all-time greatest lineman.
                      I guess if Faneca was trying to help, wouldn't Colon simply have stated that Faneca did everything possible to make Zeirlein's first year a success, rather than the non-sensical statement that was printed.

                      I read it, didn't understand the statement, but assumed that Colon would have been able to convey a positive message with more clarity than the statement given.

                      Pappy
                      I read it as he didn't blatantly sabatoge what was going on, but he was a very reluctant participant to the activities and didn't go out of his way to make things sucessful. That fits clearly with what Colon was saying.

                      People are always quick to blame coaches, but it is the players who have to execute. Faneca may be a fan favorite, but that clearly doesn't mean he does things right all the time and there may have been a lapse in professional integrity as indicated by Colon.
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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: Faneca was the problem

                        Originally posted by Ghost
                        And Colon said Faneca did anything but try to sabotage Zierlein in the coach's first season in charge of the Steelers' offensive line.
                        This sentence from the article makes no sense. He did everything BUT try to sabotage? That means Faneca was trying to help the way it's written. Mistype?

                        It's always easy to blame the player that left and was vocal about it. Maybe he had a down year but I find it hard to put all the blame on one of the Steelers all-time greatest lineman.
                        My interpretation of the intent behind that statement was that although Faneca didn't overtly try to sabotage Zeirlein by saying "#$%& you, I'm not listening to what you say, I'm doing things my way and my way only," he wasn't supportive of his new o-line coach by any means nor welcome to any of the changes he was trying to implement. Big Red seems to have issues with change ever since his comments about playing with a rookie QB after Maddox was injured, which reared its ugly head again last year when his boys Whis and Grimm were not retained. Basically, he was a pain in the @$$ without being outwardly defiant toward the coaching staff. Since young players tend to emulate established Pro Bowlers, that made it difficult for everyone, since the other linemen were hearing one thing from Zeirlein and another thing entirely from Alan. Now that everyone seems to be on board and on the same page, there can hopefully be one unified message being received by everyone.
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                        • SteelHoss
                          Backup
                          • May 2008
                          • 269

                          #13
                          Re: Faneca was the problem

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by Ghost
                          And Colon said Faneca did anything but try to sabotage Zierlein in the coach's first season in charge of the Steelers' offensive line.
                          This sentence from the article makes no sense. He did everything BUT try to sabotage? That means Faneca was trying to help the way it's written. Mistype?

                          It's always easy to blame the player that left and was vocal about it. Maybe he had a down year but I find it hard to put all the blame on one of the Steelers all-time greatest lineman.
                          My interpretation of the intent behind that statement was that although Faneca didn't overtly try to sabotage Zeirlein by saying "#$%& you, I'm not listening to what you say, I'm doing things my way and my way only," he wasn't supportive of his new o-line coach by any means nor welcome to any of the changes he was trying to implement. Big Red seems to have issues with change ever since his comments about playing with a rookie QB after Maddox was injured, which reared its ugly head again last year when his boys Whis and Grimm were not retained. Basically, he was a pain in the @$$ without being outwardly defiant toward the coaching staff. Since young players tend to emulate established Pro Bowlers, that made it difficult for everyone, since the other linemen were hearing one thing from Zeirlein and another thing entirely from Alan. Now that everyone seems to be on board and on the same page, there can hopefully be one unified message being received by everyone.

                          Very nicely put.
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                          • costanza2k1
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2579

                            #14
                            Re: Faneca was the problem

                            I can see how he would be a problem. Let's see, rips into rookie QB who ended up winning him a SB, ripped into the owner's decision to hire Tomlin and not Grimm who BTW still isn't a head coach anywhere...the man just doesn't like change. I wonder how he's enjoying the current change he's in. I guess money allows him to take it in easier. All Pro, great Steeler, but a wuss when it comes to reality-$hit changes all the time get used to it.
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