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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    Does that call warrent?

    A Tomlin firing? I mean seriously, that call makes no sense and the announcers have made that very clear as well. That is one of the worst coaching decisions this year.

    It's basically giving up on the defense and giving up on the season. I know the playoffs are a long shot, but it's impossible if you make coaching decisions like that. I expect a team that has 1, 2, 3 wins to do something that desperate. Not a team that could potentially have a shot at the playoffs if the chips fell right.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.
  • Shoe
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4044

    #2
    Re: Does that call warrent?

    Firing? Get real.

    It is obviously a very dubious call. No doubt.
    To explain his thinking though (partially): he knows his coverage blows. He also, more importantly, knows his kicker can't kick it anywhere near the endzone. He may have factored in that GB's PK blows...

    I grant you that there is no debate--bad call. But you can't fire him for that.
    I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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    • msp26505
      Backup
      • Jan 2009
      • 451

      #3
      Re: Does that call warrent?

      I couldn't agree less.

      It was a desperate call because Tomlin KNEW, as did everyone watching, that there was exactly ZERO chance that the defense would stop the Packers.

      If Ike is not so damn stupid and waits one second, he has a clean recovery.

      At least this way the offense gets the ball back.
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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #4
        Re: Does that call warrent?

        I know the logic ... but that's fuzzy logic at best.

        "You Play to Win the Game"!

        That's not playing to win the game. That's what teams with nothing to lose (desperate) do.
        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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        • msp26505
          Backup
          • Jan 2009
          • 451

          #5
          Re: Does that call warrent?

          Originally posted by jhansle1
          I know the logic ... but that's fuzzy logic at best.

          "You Play to Win the Game"!

          That's not playing to win the game. That's what teams with nothing to lose (desperate) do.
          If Ike makes the play it's as brilliant as Cowher's (Bobby April's) onside in SB XXX.

          For me, it's on Ike.
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          • drprwnap
            Backup
            • Apr 2008
            • 370

            #6
            Re: Does that call warrent?

            No. It does warrent his feet being held to the fire for that STUPID call. He better learn from this. I thought he was smarter than that.

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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #7
              Re: Does that call warrent?

              I've seen it twice now so I'm sorry but I can't help it.

              It's "warrant" not "warrent".

              Like was said above, if Ike waits a fraction of a second longer it's a great call.

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              • Steelgal
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2008
                • 1286

                #8
                Re: Does that call warrent?

                Don't agree with the call, but he shouldn't be fired over it. I think this just proves Tomlin has 0 faith in the D, as already suggested.

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                • grotonsteel
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2810

                  #9
                  Re: Does that call warrent?

                  Originally posted by msp26505
                  I couldn't agree less.

                  It was a desperate call because Tomlin KNEW, as did everyone watching, that there was exactly ZERO chance that the defense would stop the Packers.

                  If Ike is not so damn stupid and waits one second, he has a clean recovery.

                  At least this way the offense gets the ball back.
                  It was an excellent call. Mike Tomlin knows defense sucks.

                  Steelers can go as far as Big Ben want to take them.

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                  • Starlifter
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 5078

                    #10
                    Onside kick was a brilliant call...

                    I mean really. was there any doubt GB would score a TD? The only thing uncertain was if we would have 2 minutes to run our offense or 17 seconds to go 80 yards. Total indictment of Tomlin towards the D. Complete (and justified) lack of confidence.

                    Glad we stopped the skid but let's not kid ourselves. Unless Troy is back and completely healthy plus a few other folks step up, this defense ain't taking us anywhere but one and done.
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                    • Starlifter
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 5078

                      #11
                      Re: Does that call warrent?

                      Tomlin has already seen our defense give up scores with 2 minutes to go in the game several times this year. I think he decided to turn the tables so we would actually have 2 minutes to win. Brilliant!!!
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                      • brothervad
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1914

                        #12
                        Re: Does that call warrent?

                        playing Devil's advocate here:

                        Would the D have stopped this team if it went to the 35 yard line of GB? Hell no

                        In fact, there would've been no time left on the clock for Pgh to do anything which is what we have seen several times this season.

                        It is obvious that the Steelers brain trust has no answers on the D side of the ball.

                        It is apparent without Troy, this team will not go very far

                        It is apparent there will be big changes on the D side of the ball...especially the secondary

                        Was it a stupid call? yes

                        Was it a desperate call? yes

                        should he be fired? No

                        Should we fire bad word Lebeau cause his defense has sucked all year? if you say no because of his body of work then you have to provide the same answer for Tomlin

                        brothervad

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                        • grotonsteel
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2810

                          #13
                          Re: Onside kick was a brilliant call...

                          Originally posted by Starlifter
                          I mean really. was there any doubt GB would score a TD? The only thing uncertain was if we would have 2 minutes to run our offense or 17 seconds to go 80 yards. Total indictment of Tomlin towards the D. Complete (and justified) lack of confidence.

                          Glad we stopped the skid but let's not kid ourselves. Unless Troy is back and completely healthy plus a few other folks step up, this defense ain't taking us anywhere but one and done.
                          I agree...Tomlin does not trust his defensive unit...
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                          Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
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                          Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
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                          • msp26505
                            Backup
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 451

                            #14
                            Re: Onside kick was a brilliant call...

                            I was going to start this thread myself.

                            It was a desperate move because Tomlin (along with every person watching) knew that there was ZERO chance that this sieve of a defense would keep the Packers from at least kicking a field goal.

                            At least this way, the offense got the ball back. Had they kicked deep, the Packers would have had the ball for the rest of the game and kicked the game winner as time expired.

                            The only problem is that Ike Taylor has an IQ of about 70. If he waits another half second, he recovers it past the 40.

                            When Cowher (and by Cowher, I mean Bobby April) did it in SB XXX, it was a great call.

                            The announcers haven't followed the Steelers enough to understand the depth of the problems on the Steeler defense.

                            The onside kick call won the game because it bought us time.
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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: Does that call warrent?

                              Gutsy call... But after 5 losses by defensive collapses Tomlin gambled and the execution was perfect. Ike hasn't caught a thing ALL year and does the unthinkable. I truly believe our DB's are among the dumbest in the league outside of Troy of course.
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